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Old 10-25-2005, 05:57 PM
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nov 4th cant get here fast enough.
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Originally Posted by neroup5
nov 4th cant get here fast enough.

I don't think we'll have as many as I'd like built by then, but hopefully we can get started by the 4th - if not, it will be the next week. Too soon to start making installation appointments.

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Originally Posted by Stewpid
Need to know shipping price to Toronto area before confirming "for sure"

US Postal Service will get it there in 4-10 days for $33, 3-5 days for $48 - fully insured. UPS, FedEx, etc. may be cheaper on the front end, but by the time you pay the hidden brokerage and other fees at delivery, you'll pay more. Many of our Canadian customers insist on USPS after getting dinged by the private carriers (they even charge a fee for collecting the fees!).

No matter how they arrive you'll have to pay GST/PST on the declared value, but that's all there is to it with a USPS shipment.

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why not warpspeed...they still exist, and only want $200 for theirs....mandrel bent....not sure if cattmans is....

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]FOR SURE (Please Confirm):

1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... ???/ 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... FED/ 2003
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... ???/ 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. dasd_clipper...cali/1999
22. custommaximaSE..... FED/2000


BTW, how can u tell if u had FED/CALI ? I guess I'm Fed?
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]FOR SURE (Please Confirm):

1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... ???/ 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... FED/ 2003
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... ???/ 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. dasd_clipper...cali/1999
22. custommaximaSE..... FED/2000


BTW, how can u tell if u had FED/CALI ? I guess I'm Fed?

See drawing on first page.
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Originally Posted by SixxOne
See drawing on first page.

Just a reminder that the only years where the emissions types matters is 1999 or 2000. If you have a 95-98 or an 01-03 (and 04 I35s), the emissions system has no effect on the Cattman y-pipe you buy.

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Do you ship to Europe?
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Yes, we do. I'm getting ready to send a full exhaust system to Brno right now.

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is s+h included with this deal?
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This is a nice offer...thank you.
FOR SURE (Please Confirm):

1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... ???/ 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... FED/ 2003
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... ???/ 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. Eric Holmes Cali/2000

Interested:

1. 2kmaxinblack... FED/ 2000
2. SpeedyMaxima...FED/ 1997
3. 2kVQboodah... Cali/ 2000
4. ABS... ???/ 2002
5. Stalldaworld... ???/ 2003
6. MaxPol74... 2003? FED


By the way, I have a warpspeed Y-pipe and I have never been quite satisfied with its performance. First, the exhaust hanger bracket is not welded to the pipe but is a piece of metal attached to an exhaust clamp. Second, the flange of the Y-pipe that mates with the catalytic converter is not flat because they flared the pipe and simply left the flange loose...I'm guessing these two eccentricities were engineered to compensate for bending irregularities in the pipe itself that would otherwise compromise installation. Incidentally, because of the ~3mm or so of flared pipe protruding into the mating area of the flanges, it is almost impossible to get a good flat seal on the flange gasket. Unfortunately, all of this results in a very sloppy install that is not solid and is prone to leaking.

There are also two additional unpleasant consequences I have noticed from this: 1)the y-pipe will sometimes come into contact with the frame crossmember that sits just before the catalytic converter unless I really wrench on the hanger contraption. Still although it doesn't sound like I have bees in a can, there is a buzzing vibration that I feel between 1000-1200 rpms which reappears again at 1600-2100rpms. Many people wouldn't notice, but I do. I have tried numerous times to remedy this by loosening the exhaust and manipulating it into different positions, but to no avail the buzz feeling still continues. One other caveat of the Warpspeed Y-pipe is that the O2 sensor bungs were not mounted at the appropriate angle for clearance around parts of the undercarriage...it fits, but just barely. And, as someone already mentioned, an aluminized pipe for $200 does not compare to a stainless steel pipe for around $300. I hope the Cattman Y-pipe alleviates my headaches.

Brian, do you happen to have any pictures that show how your Y-pipe hanger looks when it is installed.
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This list is really useful - I wouldn't have estimated the proportions correctly at all - more 99-01 CA/NLEV y-pipes and fewer 95-98 y-pipes than I would have expected.

As far as the review of the other y-pipe brand, couldn't have said it better myself. None of the issues you mention are present on the Cattman y-pipe, that's not how we design parts.

Here's a picture of our YG5CA pipe (for 99-01 CA/NLEV Maximas and I30s). I'll point out three features - 1) the welded hanger that come up over the flex, 2) all of the extra-thick 3/8" flanges are welded on (floppy flanges = warping and bad seals), and most importantly 3) the 2-1 merge collector that our pipes feature is unique, and a major source of the Cattman performance advantage. Also note the installation kit that is included with the pipe, rather than an extra charge.



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Originally Posted by Eric Holmes
This is a nice offer...thank you.
FOR SURE (Please Confirm):

1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... ???/ 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... FED/ 2003
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... ???/ 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. Eric Holmes Cali/2000

Interested:

1. 2kmaxinblack... FED/ 2000
2. SpeedyMaxima...FED/ 1997
3. 2kVQboodah... Cali/ 2000
4. ABS... ???/ 2002
5. Stalldaworld... ???/ 2003
6. MaxPol74... 2003? FED


By the way, I have a warpspeed Y-pipe and I have never been quite satisfied with its performance. First, the exhaust hanger bracket is not welded to the pipe but is a piece of metal attached to an exhaust clamp. Second, the flange of the Y-pipe that mates with the catalytic converter is not flat because they flared the pipe and simply left the flange loose...I'm guessing these two eccentricities were engineered to compensate for bending irregularities in the pipe itself that would otherwise compromise installation. Incidentally, because of the ~3mm or so of flared pipe protruding into the mating area of the flanges, it is almost impossible to get a good flat seal on the flange gasket. Unfortunately, all of this results in a very sloppy install that is not solid and is prone to leaking.

There are also two additional unpleasant consequences I have noticed from this: 1)the y-pipe will sometimes come into contact with the frame crossmember that sits just before the catalytic converter unless I really wrench on the hanger contraption. Still although it doesn't sound like I have bees in a can, there is a buzzing vibration that I feel between 1000-1200 rpms which reappears again at 1600-2100rpms. Many people wouldn't notice, but I do. I have tried numerous times to remedy this by loosening the exhaust and manipulating it into different positions, but to no avail the buzz feeling still continues. One other caveat of the Warpspeed Y-pipe is that the O2 sensor bungs were not mounted at the appropriate angle for clearance around parts of the undercarriage...it fits, but just barely. And, as someone already mentioned, an aluminized pipe for $200 does not compare to a stainless steel pipe for around $300. I hope the Cattman Y-pipe alleviates my headaches.

Brian, do you happen to have any pictures that show how your Y-pipe hanger looks when it is installed.
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1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... ???/ 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... FED/ 2003
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... ???/ 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. Eric Holmes Cali/2000

Interested:

1. 2kmaxinblack... FED/ 2000
2. SpeedyMaxima...FED/ 1997
3. 2kVQboodah... Cali/ 2000
4. ABS... ???/ 2002
5. Stalldaworld... ???/ 2003
6. MaxPol74... 2003? FED
7. brian02max... FED/2002
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I'm interested. Fed 2001
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1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... ???/ 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... FED/ 2003
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... ???/ 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. Eric Holmes Cali/2000
22. BudVlad Cali/2001

Interested:

1. 2kmaxinblack... FED/ 2000
2. SpeedyMaxima...FED/ 1997
3. 2kVQboodah... Cali/ 2000
4. ABS... ???/ 2002
5. Stalldaworld... ???/ 2003
6. MaxPol74... 2003? FED
7. brian02max... FED/2002[/QUOTE]
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1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... ???/ 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... FED/ 2003
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... ???/ 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. Eric Holmes Cali/2000
22. BudVlad Cali/2001
23. cutommaximaSE FED/2000

Interested:

1. 2kmaxinblack... FED/ 2000
2. SpeedyMaxima...FED/ 1997
3. 2kVQboodah... Cali/ 2000
4. ABS... ???/ 2002
5. Stalldaworld... ???/ 2003
6. MaxPol74... 2003? FED
7. brian02max... FED/2002
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Please don't flame me. It's been a while since I've been here.

I'm very interested in the Cattman Y-Pipe. I've been staring at Cattman's website since I joined maxima.org. Here' the common question...

What kind of gains will I see or butt feel with my stock muffler and stock cat. system? 01' SE Auto and I have a Franken Mid Pipe with POP charger for intake.

Thanks,

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I just got my Max inspected so I'm good to go for 2 yrs.

I'm in for a Cali-spec 2000.

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2001s are CALI-spec.

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I'm interested. Fed 2001
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shipping cost??
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Im down for 01 fed but how much would the total would be ??
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whould $10-20 make a big difference if you know you're getting a deal regrdless compared to regular prices? you're not gonna get 50% off if that's what you're looking for.
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Originally Posted by 2kVQboodah
shipping cost??

Roughly $18-20 insured, from AZ to MA.

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Originally Posted by yOoOoo
Im down for 01 fed but how much would the total would be ??
If you were to go back through all the posts (and I don't blame you for not doing that), you'd find that the price hasn't been pinned down yet because I'm still waiting to get a significant bill for some machine work and don't know my final unit cost under a new production arrangement. I'd said that it would be 15-20% off and that's still the range the price will fall in, so that will give you a pretty good idea.

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the s+h cost sounds reasonable, i want it!!!

1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... ???/ 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... FED/ 2003
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... ???/ 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. Eric Holmes Cali/2000
22. BudVlad Cali/2001
23. cutommaximaSE FED/2000
24. 2kVQboodah... Cali/ 2000

Interested:

1. 2kmaxinblack... FED/ 2000
2. SpeedyMaxima...FED/ 1997
3. ABS... ???/ 2002
4. Stalldaworld... ???/ 2003
5. MaxPol74... 2003? FED
6. brian02max... FED/2002
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Originally Posted by Teh List

1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... / 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... FED/ 2003
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... / 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. Eric Holmes Cali/2000
22. BudVlad Cali/2001
23. cutommaximaSE FED/2000
24. 2kVQboodah... Cali/ 2000

Interested:

1. 2kmaxinblack... FED/ 2000
2. SpeedyMaxima...FED/ 1997
3. ABS... / 2002
4. Stalldaworld... / 2003
5. MaxPol74... FED/ 2003
6. brian02max... FED/2002
7. BudVlad... Cali/ 2001
8. SC2K1... Cali/ 2001
9. Ollie... Cali/ 2001
10. yOoOoo... Cali/ 2001
Berk came in today, and it needs an exhaust friend.

P.S. I fixed the list a little. Please add yourself if I haven't added you.
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[QUOTE=SixxOne]

I'm in for a cali spec

just outta curiousity what if I get the y-pipe and your muffler for my 00 at the same time what kinda deal if any can I get?
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Originally Posted by Ollie
Please don't flame me. It's been a while since I've been here.

I'm very interested in the Cattman Y-Pipe. I've been staring at Cattman's website since I joined maxima.org. Here' the common question...

What kind of gains will I see or butt feel with my stock muffler and stock cat. system? 01' SE Auto and I have a Franken Mid Pipe with POP charger for intake.

Thanks,

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Anyone? No gains? Just looks?
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Originally Posted by Ollie
Anyone? No gains? Just looks?
I have read 12-15 hp for 00-01
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Originally Posted by SixxOne
I have read 12-15 hp for 00-01

Thank you
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Doesnt the headers for the 3.5 come with a Y-pipe? If so then why buy just this then,other than money issues compared to headers.?
Thanx,Charles
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headers will cost you 3 times the money including a bish of an install. lots of people dont wana spend the extra cash for something that will lend a pretty low cost to horseporwer % gain.
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I just ordered HS headers, 560 shipped. 3x

i have a cattman y on my 02, its a beautiful piece, and with just an intake i put down 218 WHP, 228 WTQ. it works!

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headers will cost you 3 times the money including a bish of an install. lots of people dont wana spend the extra cash for something that will lend a pretty low cost to horseporwer % gain.
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Count me in, fellas, and, also, a special thanks to Brian for sending the decals to me at my request Here is the revised list:

1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... / 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... FED/ 2003
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... / 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. Eric Holmes Cali/2000
22. BudVlad Cali/2001
23. cutommaximaSE FED/2000
24. 2kVQboodah... Cali/ 2000
25. MFLCON... / 2002

Interested:

1. 2kmaxinblack... FED/ 2000
2. SpeedyMaxima...FED/ 1997
3. ABS... / 2002
4. Stalldaworld... / 2003
5. MaxPol74... FED/ 2003
6. brian02max... FED/2002
7. BudVlad... Cali/ 2001
8. SC2K1... Cali/ 2001
9. Ollie... Cali/ 2001
10. yOoOoo... Cali/ 2001
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FASSTER
Doesnt the headers for the 3.5 come with a Y-pipe? If so then why buy just this then,other than money issues compared to headers.?
Thanx,Charles
This is not a header thread.

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Old 11-01-2005, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SixxOne
This is not a header thread.
Never said it was,just asked a simple question in ref. to the Y-pipe.
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:13 PM
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Any idea how soon it will start? the GD i mean
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Old 11-03-2005, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gennady7
Any idea how soon it will start? the GD i mean

We'll kick the deal off early next week if my welder gets enough done between now and then. I'll announce timing and price on this thread and then its done, we'll start a new one for the group deal.

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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
2001s are CALI-spec.
Now according to two ppl here on ORG, that all 01's are CALI spec then i would have to go CALI...

1. SixxOne... Cali Spec/ 00
2. 2k3max2nv
3. neroup5... FED/ 2000
4. bigfy39... Cali/ 2000
5. dennisuello... Cali/ 2000
6. sublimer... Cali/ 2001
7. gennady7... Cali/ 2000
8. NismoGTR... ???/ 2002
9. NYPD-Arnold... Cali/ 2001
10. Stewpid... FED/ 2000
11. Lex3015... Cali/ 2000
12. TrojanMan2116... Cali/ 2001
13. HitmanAngel2k3... CALI/ 2001
14. Rocket1991... FED/ 2000
15. 03maxima1... ???/ 2003
16. vervaak... Cali/ 2000
17. waytoostock00... Cali/ 2000
18. Woo Cho... FED/ 2000
19. Ephraim... FED/ 2000
20. MaximusMorpheus 2003
21. Eric Holmes Cali/2000
22. BudVlad Cali/2001
23. cutommaximaSE FED/2000

Interested:

1. 2kmaxinblack... FED/ 2000
2. SpeedyMaxima...FED/ 1997
3. 2kVQboodah... Cali/ 2000
4. ABS... ???/ 2002
5. Stalldaworld... ???/ 2003
6. MaxPol74... 2003? FED
7. brian02max... FED/2002
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