Cross Drille/Slotted Rotors ORDERING INFO!!!
Re: CUT OFF DATE
Originally posted by max1ma97se
BigDogJonx when is the last day i can order these?? cause i get paid friday !!!@#@#!
BigDogJonx when is the last day i can order these?? cause i get paid friday !!!@#@#!
Dixit
Re: Re: CUT OFF DATE
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Aint really a cut off date, more like a straight buy for a long azz time. I sort got him to make it almost permanent. Just see how long we can strech it for.
Dixit
Aint really a cut off date, more like a straight buy for a long azz time. I sort got him to make it almost permanent. Just see how long we can strech it for.
Dixit
FYI...Myths & Misconceptions
This is from a FAQ in the Baer Racing Catalog:
Another quote from their information:
Baer themselves, actually only sell cross-drilled rotors as a "cosmetic" upgrade. I'm just posting all this to put the debate between dimpled or cross-drilled aside and make this what this is...a cosmetic modification at a good price.
CROSS DRILLED ROTORS
Q: I understand crossdrilled rotors offer substantial benefits in cooling, but they crack and fail almost immediately, how can both be true.
A: Actually neither is true.
There are really only two reasons that rotors are crossdrilled;
1) To relieve the gasses emitted from the breakdown of the bonding agents used in the manufacture of some brake pads. This condition, known as "outgassing", can create a pneumatic barrier between pad and rotor which results in a ormal pedal feel but very little friction to stop the ehicle. Ironically, current race pads from Performance Friction and several others are pre-burnished and do not have any outgassing problem;
2) For COSMETIC reasons. The truth is today's ever larger and increasingly open wheel styles, the brake system has become instrumental in creating a "look". Porsche and Ferrari, as an example, certainly know the need for crossdrilled rotors has passed, yet they still deliver their top of the line cars with crossdrilled rotors. This is the same reason that Baer offers all systems with or without crossdrilled rotors.
Crossdrilled rotors do offer about 15% less service (life) in most serious to extreme street use. In actual track use this reduction can be upwards of 50%. However, most SPEs (Self Proclaimed Engineers) suffer from the mistaken conclusion that the small hairline fractures which migrate from gas relief holes indicate "a rotor which is terminal and must be replaced". This too is untrue. these surface fractures are normal with any crossdrilled, slotted, or "dimpled" rotor. the cracks which warrant rotor replacement are any which actually cause a pulsation in the pedal, or which are radial thru the edge of the rotor.
So if you encounter claims that crossdrilled rotors will measurably increase performance, improve cooling, or last as long as non drilled units, talk to someone else.
Q: I understand crossdrilled rotors offer substantial benefits in cooling, but they crack and fail almost immediately, how can both be true.
A: Actually neither is true.
There are really only two reasons that rotors are crossdrilled;
1) To relieve the gasses emitted from the breakdown of the bonding agents used in the manufacture of some brake pads. This condition, known as "outgassing", can create a pneumatic barrier between pad and rotor which results in a ormal pedal feel but very little friction to stop the ehicle. Ironically, current race pads from Performance Friction and several others are pre-burnished and do not have any outgassing problem;
2) For COSMETIC reasons. The truth is today's ever larger and increasingly open wheel styles, the brake system has become instrumental in creating a "look". Porsche and Ferrari, as an example, certainly know the need for crossdrilled rotors has passed, yet they still deliver their top of the line cars with crossdrilled rotors. This is the same reason that Baer offers all systems with or without crossdrilled rotors.
Crossdrilled rotors do offer about 15% less service (life) in most serious to extreme street use. In actual track use this reduction can be upwards of 50%. However, most SPEs (Self Proclaimed Engineers) suffer from the mistaken conclusion that the small hairline fractures which migrate from gas relief holes indicate "a rotor which is terminal and must be replaced". This too is untrue. these surface fractures are normal with any crossdrilled, slotted, or "dimpled" rotor. the cracks which warrant rotor replacement are any which actually cause a pulsation in the pedal, or which are radial thru the edge of the rotor.
So if you encounter claims that crossdrilled rotors will measurably increase performance, improve cooling, or last as long as non drilled units, talk to someone else.
In racing, crossdrilling was designed to alleviate a problem known as out-gassing. In some of the older pad compounds, when the pads reached elevated temperatures consistent with performance or racing use, the binder (that’s the material that holds the friction material in place) boiled off, producing a gas. This gas would build up between the rotor and the brake pad, effectively keeping the pad from directly contacting the rotor. The holes provide a relief path for these gasses, as do slots, so the pad can once again contact the rotor. Crossdrilling was NOT designed to facilitate cooling.
I ordered mine i think friday. he said he would e-mail me after shipping them, on wednesday..i haven't heard anything yet
,,i am sure they will come, i just can't wait any more AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
DAMN NISSAN ROTORS
,,i am sure they will come, i just can't wait any more AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH DAMN NISSAN ROTORS
this is gonan be awesoem the other day i was just thinking how i wanted new brakes and stuff
Here are some more pics
I found these links searching in the internet, for some more pics and info.
http://www.groupbuycenter.com/buy.asp?row_id=5612
http://www.raceconcepts.net/
http://www.geocities.com/dj_spek99/rotors.jpg
http://www.groupbuycenter.com/buy.asp?row_id=5612
http://www.raceconcepts.net/
http://www.geocities.com/dj_spek99/rotors.jpg
Originally posted by dba1999us
looked decent?? ok now i am worried. maybe i should have gone the stillen way and spend the extra 280
looked decent?? ok now i am worried. maybe i should have gone the stillen way and spend the extra 280
Cheers
AA
Originally posted by dba1999us
looked decent?? ok now i am worried. maybe i should have gone the stillen way and spend the extra 280
looked decent?? ok now i am worried. maybe i should have gone the stillen way and spend the extra 280
Yeah I also agree, that about making prejudgements concerning the shop. If they had a nice looking shop then they would prob. have to raise the price for all the cosmetics needed. I will make my desicion after break in of the rotors.
Originally posted by OgreDave
the shop was a small warehouse .. and uh .. whoever paid 216 on pickup, did you pay CC or cash?
the rotors look decent, but i could swear rears had vanes too .. could be wrong .. no biggie
the shop was a small warehouse .. and uh .. whoever paid 216 on pickup, did you pay CC or cash?
the rotors look decent, but i could swear rears had vanes too .. could be wrong .. no biggie
Originally posted by Larrio
ogredave, that was me who was charged the $216. I paid with cash. I went there and he told me $216 including tax for CA residents. Now i'm thinking if I wanna go back there and ask him about your 200 price.
ogredave, that was me who was charged the $216. I paid with cash. I went there and he told me $216 including tax for CA residents. Now i'm thinking if I wanna go back there and ask him about your 200 price.
Originally posted by OgreDave
i only bought the rears.. and unless you live close .. i don't even think its worth it. did you ask for a receipt? i didn't bother with one when he asked me, its kinda how cash deals go .. but im happy i didnt pay tax ..
i only bought the rears.. and unless you live close .. i don't even think its worth it. did you ask for a receipt? i didn't bother with one when he asked me, its kinda how cash deals go .. but im happy i didnt pay tax ..
hmm i dunno if its just me, but i tried calling yesterday(4th) and today the 5th but no one ever picked up any of the times i called. Yesterday i figured he was closed cuz its the 4th, but today i called and now im wondering if anyone got through with him today? is he open weekends? do you guys know his hours? and also what kind of payments does he accept?
Re: Dimpled Drilled/Slotted Rotors ORDERING INFO!!!
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
It is only dimpled.
If you want, you can order just Slottled if you dont want the cross drilled. Just tell him what you want.
It is only dimpled.
If you want, you can order just Slottled if you dont want the cross drilled. Just tell him what you want.
what kind did u order BigDog??
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Re: Re: Dimpled Drilled/Slotted Rotors ORDERING INFO!!!
did any of the 4th gen maxima owners that ordered the rotors have gotten any tracking #'s? Because i ordered mine monday, and he said they would ship wednesday and tracking # would be emailed...but i haven't gotten anything yet and its already Sunday.
thanks.
thanks.
Re: Re: Re: Dimpled Drilled/Slotted Rotors ORDERING INFO!!!
Originally posted by itsgt
did any of the 4th gen maxima owners that ordered the rotors have gotten any tracking #'s? Because i ordered mine monday, and he said they would ship wednesday and tracking # would be emailed...but i haven't gotten anything yet and its already Sunday.
thanks.
did any of the 4th gen maxima owners that ordered the rotors have gotten any tracking #'s? Because i ordered mine monday, and he said they would ship wednesday and tracking # would be emailed...but i haven't gotten anything yet and its already Sunday.
thanks.
Dixit
Originally posted by NyC97Max
hmm i dunno if its just me, but i tried calling yesterday(4th) and today the 5th but no one ever picked up any of the times i called. Yesterday i figured he was closed cuz its the 4th, but today i called and now im wondering if anyone got through with him today? is he open weekends? do you guys know his hours? and also what kind of payments does he accept?
hmm i dunno if its just me, but i tried calling yesterday(4th) and today the 5th but no one ever picked up any of the times i called. Yesterday i figured he was closed cuz its the 4th, but today i called and now im wondering if anyone got through with him today? is he open weekends? do you guys know his hours? and also what kind of payments does he accept?
Originally posted by Shiggy
Just talked to Wood and for anyone in Hawaii, shipping is
around $87 for four rotors. Yikes!
Just talked to Wood and for anyone in Hawaii, shipping is
around $87 for four rotors. Yikes!
Dixit
i jus ordered mine today, set of 4..to NYC...he said he'll ship on wednesday and send me the tracking number as soon as it goes out..so im guessing wednesday's each week is when he sends all his goods out so if i were u people who still wanna order, i would order by 2moro, otherwise anyday after that u gotta wait till next week...guy sounded nice and was very clear and once again, thanx dixit...oh yea one more thing, the reason why i didnt get in touch with him mostly, was bcuz i forgot about pacific time compared to me being eastern time so there was the 3 hour difference which made a diff on my interreptationms on his shop hours...by da way, on what day did any of you guys who ordered last week recieve it? sum1 from NY?
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Originally posted by NyC97Max
i jus ordered mine today, set of 4..to NYC...he said he'll ship on wednesday and send me the tracking number as soon as it goes out..so im guessing wednesday's each week is when he sends all his goods out so if i were u people who still wanna order, i would order by 2moro, otherwise anyday after that u gotta wait till next week...guy sounded nice and was very clear and once again, thanx dixit...oh yea one more thing, the reason why i didnt get in touch with him mostly, was bcuz i forgot about pacific time compared to me being eastern time so there was the 3 hour difference which made a diff on my interreptationms on his shop hours...by da way, on what day did any of you guys who ordered last week recieve it? sum1 from NY?
i jus ordered mine today, set of 4..to NYC...he said he'll ship on wednesday and send me the tracking number as soon as it goes out..so im guessing wednesday's each week is when he sends all his goods out so if i were u people who still wanna order, i would order by 2moro, otherwise anyday after that u gotta wait till next week...guy sounded nice and was very clear and once again, thanx dixit...oh yea one more thing, the reason why i didnt get in touch with him mostly, was bcuz i forgot about pacific time compared to me being eastern time so there was the 3 hour difference which made a diff on my interreptationms on his shop hours...by da way, on what day did any of you guys who ordered last week recieve it? sum1 from NY?
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Originally posted by Uncle Max
I ordered my set last Monday and still no word on any tracking # I called yesterday and no one answered.
I ordered my set last Monday and still no word on any tracking # I called yesterday and no one answered.
i hope he lives up to his word; cuz i really need these before i get my 18's!!
I spoke with Wood earlier today and he said he defenitely ship my rotors today. I'm glad cuz I ordered some SS Steel Brakes Line from Phuong www.EatRiceZone.com/ and bought some really nice paint ( silver with anodize effect ) for the caliper, and GEEEEE I cant wait to put this on.
Cheers
AA
Cheers
AA
Originally posted by max1ma97se
just paypaled the $$$, need these quick im down to metal on my brake pads and rusty a$$ stock rotors look nasty with my rims. hey doublea how much was the caliper paint from phoung??
just paypaled the $$$, need these quick im down to metal on my brake pads and rusty a$$ stock rotors look nasty with my rims. hey doublea how much was the caliper paint from phoung??
Cheers
AA
Rest Assured everyone, he is a good man. I already received my set about 15mins ago.
Let me just say they look beautiful. Just like the picture. And I am installing them tommorow evening.
Dixit
Let me just say they look beautiful. Just like the picture. And I am installing them tommorow evening.
Dixit
you guys don't forget to "season your rotors" when you put them on. It is best to season rotors with old pads, as it is not recommended to put new pads and rotors on at the same time. Here is a link to some instructions.
http://www.baer.com/bedding_street/
http://www.baer.com/bedding_street/
Originally posted by 96sleeper
you guys don't forget to "season your rotors" when you put them on. It is best to season rotors with old pads, as it is not recommended to put new pads and rotors on at the same time. Here is a link to some instructions.
http://www.baer.com/bedding_street/
you guys don't forget to "season your rotors" when you put them on. It is best to season rotors with old pads, as it is not recommended to put new pads and rotors on at the same time. Here is a link to some instructions.
http://www.baer.com/bedding_street/
BigDogJonx- Do you know if these rotors already deglazed?
Originally posted by Menacer
Hmmm..I am confused, I hear it's best to use new pads since the pads might be uneven or something like that. Maybe that is the case if you are replacing rotors that aren't warped, and installing them just as an upgrade. But what if, like in my situation; I am installing the new rotors only because my rotors are warped? Do I need new pads? I bought new pads both front and rear about 4 months ago (not at the same time.) BTW I just got rotors and they look exactly like the pictured ones do.
BigDogJonx- Do you know if these rotors already deglazed?
Hmmm..I am confused, I hear it's best to use new pads since the pads might be uneven or something like that. Maybe that is the case if you are replacing rotors that aren't warped, and installing them just as an upgrade. But what if, like in my situation; I am installing the new rotors only because my rotors are warped? Do I need new pads? I bought new pads both front and rear about 4 months ago (not at the same time.) BTW I just got rotors and they look exactly like the pictured ones do.
BigDogJonx- Do you know if these rotors already deglazed?
Dixit
