Please let me know what you think is the best?

 

it is said that "everyone loves what they have", and i have a frankencar

 

Stock intake is the best.

 

 

My Stillen was a good intake, now my Injen is a great intake!

Tifosi

 

injen all the way!!

 

place racing is best

 

Home made

 

Stock

 

im selling my stillen intake. email me if your interested.
ksolidazn@hanmail.net

 

Home made from pepboys!

 

OSCAI

 

(in order of sequence)
1. the Stillen Intake
2. K&N Pop charger
3. PR/Cattman Cold Air Intake
4. PR/Cattman Hybrid Intake

No.4 is definately my favorite so far, IMO sounds better and outperforms the other setups

 

IS IT STILLEN,CATTMAN,PLACE RACING OR WHAT??

 

Cattman and Place Racing are the same intake. Cold Air.

Stillen, JWT are just filters that attach to the MAF.

Best bet would be to go with one of the new hybrid intakes like Frankencar or something. I had something similar way back in the day, I used at Place racing upper tube with aftermarket filter.

 

if you have an auto, get a CAI (warpspeed or place racing)

if you have a stick, get a hybrid (frankencar, or make your own using a pop charger style intake)

 

EDIT: This post was a reply t a thread where the guy who started this thread asked the same question again. I was referring back to THIS thread when I posted the response that you read below.
Did you not read this thread? It was your OWN thread.

Basically, it depends on several factors.

Do you want it for the track or the street?
Do you have a manual or auto?
How much are you looking to spend?
Do you mind cutting a hole in your fender for a CAI?
Do you have the ability/tools to do so?
Do you want a homemade setup (saves money), or a store-bought one?

Answer these questions and we can help you a bit more.

 

I guess I wasn't the only one that noticed.

 

Seriously, answer the questions above about what you have and what you want out of it, plus what you can put INTO it, and we will be glad to help you out...

 

Question: Why does auto or manual make a difference?

 

With auto and just a pop charger, you lose a noticeable low end, and there's nothing you can do about it because you can't adjust what rpm you can shift (unless you get the hybrid piping to cure the low end loss). But with manual, you can deal with the loss of low end by adjusting your shift points.

Tifosi

 

To be honest, I have never been able to get a straight answer, BUT what I have heard is that the "pop-charger" type setups (Stillen, JWT)are not good for autos b/c you lose low-end power. I have heard that for an auto, a CAI (PR or Cattman, also recently Injen as well) is best, followed closely by a "hybrid," which is what a frankencar, fastlane, and many setups on eBay are.

I assume that it is due to the inability for autos to control shift points that causes this, as the intake may (I said MAY, for you experts- I am admitting that I do NOT know for sure ) shift the powerband upwards in the rev range. The post above me reinforces this (I am editing to refer to this- he posted at the same time I did).

With an auto, I personally went with a CAI, and will have it as a hybrid for a while to test it out as both a CAI and a hybrid. Even people who have run both are divided as to which worked better. In her post above, 97MaxGurl (whose opinion I respect) says she prefers her PR CAI setup as a PR HYBRID setup, while hokiemax (whose opinion I ALSO respect) says that his track runs reflect that the switch from CAI to hybrid hurt his times and that the switch back to a CAI gave him his power back.

 

You fergot to mention CAP OFF to this young man

 

I would like to say Frankencar intake with KN filter but I have yet to get my in the mail and I placed this order back in August

 

Thx guys for the response. Hmmm....I have to fix my suspension first before I worry about go-go mods. I wish I could skip the whole intake thing and step right up to the turbo but......that's a long way off into my future (hopefully)

 

Pop Chargers
Highs - No restrictive piping.
Lows - Gets air from the engine bay, is said to have low end lag

* * * Question to Users - does this low end lag apply to daily driving, or is it during racing. My max upshifts from redline to 4,000 rpm, is this reported lag before this? What RPM range are you feeling this?

Injen CAI
Highs - Gets the filter lower in the engine bay, and since heat rises this is better than a popcharger, and they show their dyno graph so you know what kinds of power to expect
Lows - it seems that because the filter is still in the engine bay (behind the radiator) that the extra piping would not be ideal. But again their dyno graphs are there.

True CAI's (a whole in the fender)
Highs - gets cool air from outside the engine bay
Lows - the piping becomes restrictive at high RPM (I'm not sure how much piping there actually is, as compared to other intakes like injen, if it were the same length I would think it would be better, but I havn't seen a before and after dyno of these yet.

Hybrid Intakes???? (I'll call it a short ram intake)
I have been confused about these since learning about them. It seems that the general consensus is that piping is a bad thing, as it is considered a disadvantage for CAI's, and the lack of piping is considered an ADVANTAGE of a pop charger. But what a hybrid intake is, is a pop charger with extra piping (wasn't the lack of piping just stated as an advantage for a pop charger??) Also, add to that the fact that your still getting hot air from the engine (look again at the disadvantages for both the CAI, and Pop charger, it's right inline with what a hybrid intake is.) Short ram intakes were replaced by popchargers because of the piping (since your getting hot air both ways you might as well get rid of any restrictive piping), they where also replaced by CAI's to get cooler denser air.

A real hybrid intake would be a pop charger that was fed cold air from external tubing, that would have both advantages, not a hybrid of both disadvantages. You'll have to fabricate your own.

Personally I believe that a whole in the fender intake would be the best to buy. The piping doesn't seem to be that long when compared to others like AEM (it's a straight shot from the throttle body to the fender) it's protected from the heat of the engine, and it's protected from road grime by the stock plastic liner in your wheel well. However do to the lack of before and after dyno graphs I have no idea what the characteristics of the hp are across the RPM range (dyno's that I have seen show the hybrid intakes to create more peak hp, but if you look at them you can see that their is a loss of hp compared to stock in the 2500-5,000 rpm range, except at 3800 where it is the same as stock before losing power again, but to it's credit it does make more power after 5000, you can print both dyno graphs and do an over lay to see what I mean) This is why I think peak hp is about as relevant as hp per liter, even if your car had a gain of 20 peak hp at 5400 rpm, it wouldn't make it very fast if it where losing hp in all the other RPM ranges.

Find as many before and after dyno graphs as you can. Do over lays and find the intake that gives you consistent gains across the RPM range that is ideal for you. For me I want an intake that will give me consistently more power from 4,000 - 6,500 since this is my RPM range when racing, but I also want an intake that will give me a decent launch in an auto. The Injen does this so unless I see a PR CAI before and after dyno, I will probably buy it, or fabricate my own intake.

Good Luck

 

Ok. I can't decide on a intake myself so I'm going to answer the following questions and hopefully you guys can help me.
1.I want it for street, don't ever think I'm going to the track.
2.I have an auto.
3.It doesn't matter on price.
4.I don't mind cutting a hole.
5.I don't have the tools to do it but someone offered to help make this happen or I'm taking it to Maximum Tuning to be installed. (Labor is cheap)
6. I want a store bought one
BONUS: I want to improve my acceleration dramatically.
Can you guys help now?

 

The symphony of angry crickets.....the V2 is the best intake!


I have the stillen........ it's "aight"

 

Cold air intakes are nice until they become cold water intakes and you throw a rod. I like my engine too much (and can't afford a new one) to go with CAI. My friend has a celica (the new one) got a CAI and threw a rod after it sucked up some water totally destroying his engine. That makes me nervous. I built my own intake and with filter it cost me about 50 bucks (plus some drill bits cause i lost my set). It looks and sounds great.

 

I hear what you are saying but I never heard of that happening to anyone. I guess your friend is just unlucky. I mean I heard to do that you must really be driving in some deep puddles or something. I don't know where your from but in NY we don't get those type of floods and rain storms. But I will definitely take your point into consideration.

 

If you have an auto, we should eliminate popchargers.
If it is for street, I would say that most driving is in the midrange, so a hybrid would be a good choice, unless you do a lot of stop and go, in which case we can put a CAI back on the table, especially since you do not mind cutting a hole fo rthe Cold Air portion. It is also more expensive, AND if you live in a wet climate, you may want the AEM Bypass valve (I think that is another $50). Cattman or PR both sell CAIs for the low $200s, plus about $50 fo the water bypass (prevents nasty hydrolock in the event tha *** gets wet).
In terms of tools, if you do a hybrid, all that you need are the basics- screwdrivers, a set of pliers, and a socket set. VERY easy. Gettiing it installed is a waste of money. Doing a CAI may be enough to warrant a prof install, but that is your call. W/o a hole saw, you will need prof help to cut the hole.

That said, if you want to spend $300+ installed, get a cattman or PR CAI. If you want to buy an intake and have enough left over for 2-3 other mods (or a budget y-pipe), get a frankencar hybrid. Good midrange, decent top-end, and little low-end loss. Once you get the RPMs up into the midrange, you will take off.