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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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Has anybody tried this top speed run?

http://www.silverstateclassic.com/flatout.htm
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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Re: Has anybody tried this top speed run?

Originally posted by ericdwong
http://www.silverstateclassic.com/flatout.htm
Would be boring in the Max but the Z28 would make it fun!
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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sounds like a good time....it goes on how close you can predict
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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Cool. If I had the money i'd do it.
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KSESteve
Cool. If I had the money i'd do it.
Anyone up for september?
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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I'll borrow my friend's twin turbo Diablo for that,
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Originally posted by foodmanry
I'll borrow my friend's twin turbo Diablo for that,
Pics of said TT Diablo or
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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Pics of said TT Diablo or
When do you want them? I can take them, just need some time. About a week?
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by mzmtg


Pics of said TT Diablo or


You might know someone with a TT Diablo but he's probably not your friend. I know if I had (could afford) a TT Diablo I'd be hooking my friends up with some ish (and it wouldn't be a Maxima)
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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Pics or
^gay. oh yeah, we are on the org

this run sounds somewhat fun, 395$ starting entry is a little steep but 171.9mph hmmm, and I assume since we are just on the road if we wreck insurance will still cover (full coverage of course), granted you still being alive
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 07:30 AM
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You might know someone with a TT Diablo but he's probably not your friend. I know if I had (could afford) a TT Diablo I'd be hooking my friends up with some ish (and it wouldn't be a Maxima)
He is a long-time friend of our family. He used to supply the company my dad worked for with parts. I used to work for him for a few years. He was there when my mom passed away. He was there when my dad lost his job and hooked him up with one at his parts company. I've been on numerous boat trips with him.

As far as his Diablo he just has money to burn. He likes fast cars, and it's his baby. A full custom TT, which I do not believe anyone else in the world has. The shop that did the job is located in Costa Mesa off Newport Blvd. and from what I've seen only does high-end performance cars.

I have ridden in it a few times, scary fast... Can only drive it with him in it. The estimated HP is about 800 at 9 PSI. He hasn't dynoed it though. He just got it done for the thrills. If you are a guy with an S-load of money who has an A-type personality that kind of setup works for you. Personally it's too fast for me, it's just plain scary.

Call all the you want. I am not one to . You will see pics very shortly.

I understand your skepticism. I would be skeptical in your shoes. There is a lot of bull-shat called on here.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 07:41 AM
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I have always wanted to do this. I wonder if I could enter the Grand Sport class and use the 130mph target. But it says Nitrous not allowed for that class.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 07:44 AM
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I have always wanted to do this. I wonder if I could enter the Grand Sport class and use the 130mph target. But it says Nitrous not allowed for that class.
Oh scrap that. We would need a roll bar, a fuel cell and a 5 point harness for that class. Grand Touring 125 class would be about it for us and we still need a 5 point harness.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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Re: Re: Has anybody tried this top speed run?

Originally posted by Maximam


Would be boring in the Max but the Z28 would make it fun!
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by hlh0501
^gay. oh yeah, we are on the org
I'm glad we still have people like you around to contribute useful things to the Maxima community in general. You have certainly helped the ORG immensely and we are all better off for it.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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Re: Re: Has anybody tried this top speed run?

Why not a Maxima? I'd love to enter and see how long I can sustain an average speed of 140 mph.

DW

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Would be boring in the Max but the Z28 would make it fun!
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 10:44 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Has anybody tried this top speed run?

If you don't have a proper suspension set-up, the maxima may GO 140 mph, but one dip/bump and it's coil bind and shat in the pants time

Originally posted by dwapenyi
Why not a Maxima? I'd love to enter and see how long I can sustain an average speed of 140 mph.

DW

Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Has anybody tried this top speed run?

That may be so, but that road looked damn near perfect to me

DW

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If you don't have a proper suspension set-up, the maxima may GO 140 mph, but one dip/bump and it's coil bind and shat in the pants time

Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Has anybody tried this top speed run?

Originally posted by Jeff92se
If you don't have a proper suspension set-up, the maxima may GO 140 mph, but one dip/bump and it's coil bind and shat in the pants time
I agree


I would enter the low class and set my cruise at the minimum GPS-indicated 95 mph (if that's allowed) and kick some butt.


The 4th/5th Gen setup is good for bursts up to higher speeds but I would not want to be cruising at speeds like those for extended periods. But I guess it all depends on how smooth those roads really are.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Has anybody tried this top speed run?

Originally posted by Jeff92se
If you don't have a proper suspension set-up, the maxima may GO 140 mph, but one dip/bump and it's coil bind and shat in the pants time

True... ture...


I have noticed my A34 feels much more planted on the road at such speeds than my A33 did.

The rules also state

"No first year entrant may enter any class above the 130mph mark"
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Has anybody tried this top speed run?

Every run a section of freeway that was smooth at 85 and then run it again at 135? I'm sure they picked a good section of road but still, McPherson strut and rear beam in a FWD heavy sedan + 140mph for any sustained amount of time = deathwish IMHO

Originally posted by dwapenyi
That may be so, but that road looked damn near perfect to me

DW

Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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Oooooohhh.. The Supra or Viper would have to come out for this event.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Has anybody tried this top speed run?

Originally posted by Jeff92se
Every run a section of freeway that was smooth at 85 and then run it again at 135? I'm sure they picked a good section of road but still, McPherson strut and rear beam in a FWD heavy sedan + 140mph for any sustained amount of time = deathwish IMHO


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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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Are bikes allowed if not then I need to find an LS1.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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I want to see mardigras run.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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I would be wary about taking the max as well, although without dips, I'd feel a little better. Still, I've been out to the stretch of highway that I did a 130 (according to the speedo) run in my old 91 integra LS - and felt it was solid and very controllable - , and with the max, I began to feel unsafe at about 100-105 due to the suspension. For the record both were stock suspension and around the 90k mile range.

Cool to know something like that exists out there, for those people with TT Diablos and whatnot.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Has anybody tried this top speed run?

Originally posted by Jeff92se
Every run a section of freeway that was smooth at 85 and then run it again at 135? I'm sure they picked a good section of road but still, McPherson strut and rear beam in a FWD heavy sedan + 140mph for any sustained amount of time = deathwish IMHO

F-Bodies don't seem to have any problems sustaining speeds well over 140mph and they've got a truck A-arm derived front suspension and live axle. Their weight distribution isn't much better than ours. Why would a FWD car with 62% of the weight in the front be less stable than a RWD car with 60% of the weight in the rear (911)

You'd be stupid to drive any street performance car at 120mph on bumpy roads with tight sweepers. I don't care if it's a Maxima or a Viper, if you hit a bump in sweeper at 140mph, you're going off the road.


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1) Even unequal A-arm suspensions are better than struts if designed right. What kind of suspension travel is available for high performance packages for the F-bodies? Maximas lose alot when lowered, thus coil bind. Maybe with coilovers it helps(stiffer springs and stiffer shocks)
2)You can't really mention the 911 only in weight dist terms. It's suspension is VASTLY superior to the maxima and has had the benefit of over 50 years of racing development. But I do believe they use race derived suspension components

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F-Bodies don't seem to have any problems sustaining speeds well over 140mph and they've got a truck A-arm derived front suspension and live axle. Their weight distribution isn't much better than ours. Why would a FWD car with 62% of the weight in the front be less stable than a RWD car with 60% of the weight in the rear (911)

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I don't know about you guys, but I've gotten very comfortable with high speed driving in a Maxima, despite it's forward weight bias. When it was just a regular SE and I had the tire pressures even all around, high speed runs felt skittish. More specifically, the read end just didn't feel planted. Things that really helped to make the car feel much more planted at speed was;

1. RSB
2. High front tire pressure (35-37 psi) and low rear tire pressure (29-30)
3. That rear wing. Yeah, most people say that the SE wing doesn't do much, but at 140 mph, it may not produce much downforce, but helps the air leave the rear end in a much more stable manner. In other words less drag, promoting stability.

On a road trip I took some time ago, I was in the midwest, travelling on the interstates in Indiana and Iowa, and I was cruising at 110-120 with ease. The highways in the plains states are just plain fantastic. Who says that the good ole USA doesn't have an autobahn At one point I had the speedo pegged at 140+ for at least 3 minutes. I backed off, not becuase didn't feel secure, but more because I didn't want to get nailed by cops at that high speed. The max felt very comfortable and confident. I could have stayed at 140 all day. I wish I had the time and money to enter that silver state classic. That event is totally my idea of fun
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by 00SESoonToBe
Are bikes allowed if not then I need to find an LS1.

Unfortunately bikes arent the greatest in top speed. Your F4i's top speed is right around 160. I have the same bike just one year older.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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A maxima has a better drag coiffecent than a viper or WS6 with same power, gearing and good suspension. The max would eat them.
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Originally posted by krismax
A maxima has a better drag coiffecent than a viper or WS6 with same power, gearing and good suspension. The max would eat them.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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I'm glad we still have people like you around to contribute useful things to the Maxima community in general. You have certainly helped the ORG immensely and we are all better off for it.
didnt he make a turbo kit available? sounds pretty useful to me.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by ericdwong



Unfortunately bikes arent the greatest in top speed. Your F4i's top speed is right around 160. I have the same bike just one year older.


I know......I have had it at 162 indicated (realistically 152 mph) and it felt really stable. Anyways back to the cars, I think my Max handles quite nicely at speed, but with the governer set at 130, I'll get passed on the straights with ease. The F-body's go 155-160 in 5th gear at redline (6th gear doesn't pull, it's like OD) that's pretty freakin fast if you ask me for a stock car!
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Originally posted by krismax
A maxima has a better drag coiffecent than a viper or WS6 with same power, gearing and good suspension. The max would eat them.
Old Apr 10, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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I want to see mardigras run.
not hating, but for some reason i think if he attempted this his motor would go bye-bye...unless he's built his motor recently (havent been around much lately)...sustained hi-speed runs put a heavy whooping on your car...especially if ur running forced induction..
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I've read most of the Silver State Classic web site, and would still love to run it.

Stock (wrt safety equipment) the max (and probably almost any production car) is limited to the stock class, IIRC. Minimum speed 80mph (except for a couple of narrow and/or curvy spots) Max speed allowed 124mph, and they have radar along the course to catch you. You also can't pass the pace car.

I *think* there is a class which would only need a harness, that would let you go faster than 120mph.

The stock class would be just fine with me. I think I'd sign up for the 105mph group. The winner is the one that finishes closest to a 105mph average over the whole course.

I'd also love to have something to run in the unlimited class. 150mph MINIMUM !!
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