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Old May 3, 2003 | 07:42 PM
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Well, Got a hold of a SC setup....

Recently, I purchased a whole Stillen SC setup from a buddy of mine. Before I had purchased it, I looked over it thoroughly and noticed one little thing. The tensioner pulley on the SC bracket was broken. The pulley itself wasn't the problem, but the whole shaft that the pulley mounted to was missing. Well, thinking it through brought me to an idea. We mounted the whole kit on his car, the SC, FMU, oil line, everything. We then took a piece of string and pulled it taught through all the pulleys on the engine and through the SC pulley. We marked the length of the string and went to a local NAPA store. We told them the length and they came back out with the PERFECT belt for the job. We then took the SC off and mounted the belt on the engine/SC and installed everything back on. We then used the stock engine tensioner pulley to make the belt the correct tension. We installed a temporary boost gauge right on the FPR vacuum line and turned the car on. To our total amazement, it worked perfectly. We got a full 4-5 psi with the stock SC pulley. After we had proven it worked, we took everything back off and I bought the kit.

Well, knowing that it works and that I am also going turbo in the very near future, I will be selling it. So, I just wanted to let you guys know.

BTW, I haven't talked to STILLEN about the whole broken bracket deal, but I am sure that if I did and I sent them the broken bracket, that they may consider selling me a good bracket.
Old May 3, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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boosting...
Old May 3, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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Here is a pic:

http://www.smg.sphosting.com/images/sc.jpg

YOU WILL HAVE TO COPY AND PASTE THE ABOVE PICTURE......
Old May 3, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by Ramius83
Here is a pic:

http://www.smg.sphosting.com/images/sc.jpg

YOU WILL HAVE TO COPY AND PASTE THE ABOVE PICTURE......



are you and Jay gonna put it on?
Old May 3, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by metallic97gxe


are you and Jay gonna put it on?
No, if you read my post, I am going to sell it because no matter what, I am going turbo.....
Old May 3, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by Ramius83


No, if you read my post, I am going to sell it because no matter what, I am going turbo.....

why it's slow
Old May 3, 2003 | 08:16 PM
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BTW check the SE forum.. we are meeting tomorrow
Old May 3, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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Good thing about having a V1 - that pulley isn't on there at all.

Old May 3, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by iansw
Good thing about having a V1 - that pulley isn't on there at all.

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Old May 3, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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So a V1 doesn't even have that pulley there on the bracket? Hmmmm, what size belt are you all running on your V1s? Anyways, thanks for the input guys.....
Old May 3, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by Ramius83
So a V1 doesn't even have that pulley there on the bracket? Hmmmm, what size belt are you all running on your V1s? Anyways, thanks for the input guys.....

How much are you gonna sell it for?
Old May 3, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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Let me know when you want to sell it. I am very interested.
Old May 4, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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Well, I may just slap that puta on eBay since that seems to be the easiest way. I have dealt with a TON of people in the past with offers and all that good stuff, which really didn't go too well. But, I will DEFINITELY let you guys know when I do. More than likely it will start out tomorrow evening. I will post here with a link to the auction when I start it. Sound good guys?
Old May 4, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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Eric I can't see the pic for some reason...but the V1's do have an additional Idler pulley on the bracket. I can show you pics if you would like.
Old May 4, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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Eric I can't see the pic for some reason...but the V1's do have an additional Idler pulley on the bracket. I can show you pics if you would like.
Please do, but I already do know that this does work because we tested it. But I would like to see what they have...
Old May 4, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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yes, please inform us all when you sell it.
Old May 4, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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Erik I was able to see the pics... but not a good enough pic of the plate. What do you mean by bracket? The tensioner assembly? or the idler pulley that sits at the front lower corner of the plate? I am really curious now

Here is a front on pic of the Idler Pulley on the plate... V1 style. No aluminum.



More pics here:

http://www.demoura.com/images/SC%20Plate/
Old May 4, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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Ok, well, does anyone have pics of the V2 bracket? I just want to see how different this whole setup is. Like I have said before, everything installs fine without the idler pulley, so I don't think I need to worry at all. Anyways, thanks all.....
Old May 4, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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Erik does your bracket not have that front pulley? made of aluminum? The reason for that being there is to give more "wrap" to the belt. It may work, and net 5 PSI or so, but it will more likely than not cause problems down the road. That pulley is there for a reason. Especially if the eventual owner wants to do pulley upgrades.



The V2 bracket is very similiar in terms of that particular pulley. The bracket is very similiar in alot of respects. The major difference is the design to accomodate the OEM thermostat housing.
Old May 4, 2003 | 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by delio
Erik does your bracket not have that front pulley? made of aluminum? The reason for that being there is to give more "wrap" to the belt. It may work, and net 5 PSI or so, but it will more likely than not cause problems down the road. That pulley is there for a reason. Especially if the eventual owner wants to do pulley upgrades.



The V2 bracket is very similiar in terms of that particular pulley. The bracket is very similiar in alot of respects. The major difference is the design to accomodate the OEM thermostat housing.
No, my bracket does not have that front pulley at all. The only pulley present is the pulley on the actual SC. Now, when we installed everything, there was a ton of clearence in between the belt and any other obstacle. I only think that the main reason that the idler pulley was placed on the SC bracket was to give more adjustability to tighten the belt as a whole, instead of just using the stock tensioner pulley. I am going to contact Stealin tomorrow and see what they say about this whole ordeal.....
Old May 4, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Ramius83


No, my bracket does not have that front pulley at all. The only pulley present is the pulley on the actual SC. Now, when we installed everything, there was a ton of clearence in between the belt and any other obstacle. I only think that the main reason that the idler pulley was placed on the SC bracket was to give more adjustability to tighten the belt as a whole, instead of just using the stock tensioner pulley. I am going to contact Stealin tomorrow and see what they say about this whole ordeal.....
Good luck, but don't expect too much help... Is the plate broken there or is the pulley just missing?
Old May 5, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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Originally posted by Ramius83


No, my bracket does not have that front pulley at all. The only pulley present is the pulley on the actual SC. Now, when we installed everything, there was a ton of clearence in between the belt and any other obstacle. I only think that the main reason that the idler pulley was placed on the SC bracket was to give more adjustability to tighten the belt as a whole, instead of just using the stock tensioner pulley. I am going to contact Stealin tomorrow and see what they say about this whole ordeal.....
Like Delio said, the reason for the bracket pulley is to route the belt so that it wraps around the blower pulley more. Since the drive force is transmitted from the belt to the blower pulley via friction, you want to have as much contact area as possible to prevent belt slip without having to resort to a super tight belt. Without the bracket pulley you probably won't be able to develop full boost if you go with a smaller blower pulley.
Old May 5, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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is this the one you got from yonas?? :-D
Old May 5, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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Ok guys, I finally put it on eBay. Here is the link to the eBay listing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...414208169&rd=1
Old May 5, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by Ramius83
Ok guys, I finally put it on eBay. Here is the link to the eBay listing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...08169&rd=1
Erik is the plate actually broken or is the pulley just missing? do you have a better pic of the plate?
Old May 5, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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Is the pully attached to the bracket on the V1 kit? Its just bolts into it on the V2...
Old May 5, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by ejj
Is the pully attached to the bracket on the V1 kit? Its just bolts into it on the V2...
That was going to be exactly my point... that he could buy the pulley from ASP.

It bolts into my V1 as well.
Old May 5, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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ERIC!! MAN you're boost and juice CRAZY. When do you think you'll have all of it done?
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