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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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My 2k2 auto vs WRX manual last night (the best race i've had)

Finally learned how to launch my car. First time I raced my buddy's WRX was couple of months ago and he had me by 2 cars second time he also had me by 2 cars, that was because everytime I break torqued my car to about 2k and then stepped on the gas pedal too hard and my tires would spin till about 4-5k. Last night we lign up again and this time I took off like never before. Minimal tire spin, and I had him by 1/2 a car off the line we shut it down at 100 and I was 1 1/2 cars ahead of him. Then we catch another light and again I have a great launch, we again shut it down at 100 and I had him by a car. I could not believe that my max pulled on his WRX. BTW all I have is Franken intake, he has a full cat back exhaust I am auto and he is manual.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Good job. That gives all of us with autos some credibility around here.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by 1stmaxima
Good job. That gives all of us with autos some credibility around here.
Untill yesterday I did not realize how fast my max really is. Now that I beat my buddy's WRX I am a lot more confident now.
Next week I will race my sisters's boyfriends S2000 manual. I wanted to do it this week but he just bought it and has to get used to driving the car. I test drove that car and it does not seem that fast untill u hit like 6500 RPMs, then it almost feels like a turbo is kicking in. I will post the results next week.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by xfirepwr1

Untill yesterday I did not realize how fast my max really is. Now that I beat my buddy's WRX I am a lot more confident now.
Next week I will race my sisters's boyfriends S2000 manual. I wanted to do it this week but he just bought it and has to get used to driving the car. I test drove that car and it does not seem that fast untill u hit like 6500 RPMs, then it almost feels like a turbo is kicking in. I will post the results next week.
I had a similar experience on Sat. night , didnt post it cause
there are many non-believers up in here- but yeah, coming out of
a gas station at about 11pm I took him down to the next set of lights Rt.202 and that car was screaming off the line, didnt sound
stock(the kid was a ricer) But most likely he didnt expect the launch I had on my 6speed and then slowly started to gain within a car length- but my franken was screamin on 3rd gear bout 5500, when i slapped 4th he was about 3/4 car lenght behind me -then he slowed
down and got off a side street- he probably didn't know how to push that thing- I know they are very fast my cousins boyfriend has
an old style impreza wrx and he runs low thirteens at englishtown
with few mods- But I dont encourage street racing- insurance points are hard to shake off!!
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by MannyNJ2k2max


I had a similar experience on Sat. night , didnt post it cause
there are many non-believers up in here- but yeah, coming out of
a gas station at about 11pm I took him down to the next set of lights Rt.202 and that car was screaming off the line, didnt sound
stock(the kid was a ricer) But most likely he didnt expect the launch I had on my 6speed and then slowly started to gain within a car length- but my franken was screamin on 3rd gear bout 5500, when i slapped 4th he was about 3/4 car lenght behind me -then he slowed
down and got off a side street- he probably didn't know how to push that thing- I know they are very fast my cousins boyfriend has
an old style impreza wrx and he runs low thirteens at englishtown
with few mods- But I dont encourage street racing- insurance points are hard to shake off!!
9 out of 10 races are determined by the driver- as long as they
are close performers of course
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:21 PM
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I am a bit sceptical. WRX dude doesn't know how to drive his car. Try to get it on from the roll on the hwy and let us know.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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I am a bit sceptical. WRX dude doesn't know how to drive his car. Try to get it on from the roll on the hwy and let us know.
I can take him on the high way when we were going 55 i manually shifted to 2nd and took him every time. Its only when u r in D and your car only shifts to 3rd when the WRX pulls because the max is running on low RPM's then.
I was skeptical too about org members winning against WRX's untill yesterday. Like I said he beat me twice before, and ge got owned last night, he could not believe either. Dont underestimate 2k2 autos
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
I am a bit sceptical. WRX dude doesn't know how to drive his car. Try to get it on from the roll on the hwy and let us know.
I beat about 3 WRXs from a roll. They SUCK from a roll. I am also a 6spd but still..the AWD advantage is GONE from a roll....
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE


I beat about 3 WRXs from a roll. They SUCK from a roll. I am also a 6spd but still..the AWD advantage is GONE from a roll....
The AWD cars loose a lot of power on top end its a big disadvantage.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by xfirepwr1

The AWD cars loose a lot of power on top end its a big disadvantage.
Tell that to my friend new evo... 155 is top speed i believe..
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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i raced a wrx 4 times. 2 from a roll,one from a stop, and 1 from a 5mph roll. from the highway roll i won once, he won once. from 5mph he took me the worst. i should have manually shifted. and from a stop he beat me to 60 but i was gaining on him. its a drivers race. but if you have a choice race from a 50 mph roll in an auto 2k2 max.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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I raced my friends 2000-2001 4 door accord. Think its got like 225 hp. Anyways, we were turning left, he had the inside lane. I didn't know he was going to gun it so after I saw he was racing I stomped the gas. Unfortunetely there was a lot of loose dirt and I didn't have good traction. Anyways, after I hit the straight away and hit the middle of 3rd gear, I flew past him like he wansn't even moving. In fact, I thought he had shut it down, but he said he had it on the floor the whole time.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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i haven't raced a wrx yet, but it would be interesting. i beat a mustang gtr from stop, the other day on the way to work. first time i actually pushed my car, hit about 130mph untill he backed off. just got it a month ago
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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Re: My 2k2 auto vs WRX manual last night (the best race i've had)

Originally posted by xfirepwr1
Finally learned how to launch my car. First time I raced my buddy's WRX was couple of months ago and he had me by 2 cars second time he also had me by 2 cars, that was because everytime I break torqued my car to about 2k and then stepped on the gas pedal too hard and my tires would spin till about 4-5k. Last night we lign up again and this time I took off like never before. Minimal tire spin, and I had him by 1/2 a car off the line we shut it down at 100 and I was 1 1/2 cars ahead of him. Then we catch another light and again I have a great launch, we again shut it down at 100 and I had him by a car. I could not believe that my max pulled on his WRX. BTW all I have is Franken intake, he has a full cat back exhaust I am auto and he is manual.
Good race! I've pulled a WRX from a roll, but haven't yet tried one from a stop. Like you said, against that thing a good launch is absolutely required.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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Re: Re: My 2k2 auto vs WRX manual last night (the best race i've had)

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Good race! I've pulled a WRX from a roll, but haven't yet tried one from a stop. Like you said, against that thing a good launch is absolutely required.
besides myself are their any other 2k1 autos that have taken wrx's off a roll?
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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Re: My 2k2 auto vs WRX manual last night (the best race i've had)

Originally posted by xfirepwr1
Finally learned how to launch my car. First time I raced my buddy's WRX was couple of months ago and he had me by 2 cars second time he also had me by 2 cars, that was because everytime I break torqued my car to about 2k and then stepped on the gas pedal too hard and my tires would spin till about 4-5k. Last night we lign up again and this time I took off like never before. Minimal tire spin, and I had him by 1/2 a car off the line we shut it down at 100 and I was 1 1/2 cars ahead of him. Then we catch another light and again I have a great launch, we again shut it down at 100 and I had him by a car. I could not believe that my max pulled on his WRX. BTW all I have is Franken intake, he has a full cat back exhaust I am auto and he is manual.
wait so let me get this straight, every time i launch my auto i....
1) hold the brake down at the same time my foot is on the gas
2) i am stepping on the gas as far as i can go(car starts to lift up)
3)as soon as i go i let go of the brake and slam the gas the rest of the way

now i know their is something wrong i am doing in those 3 steps because i spin 1st gear like crazy, i their another launch technique i could use to prevent that????
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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I've got a 2k3 auto and I've beat my homey's 2k3 WRX 5spd from a stop 2 times to a 200 - 300 meter dash both times. He just got the car 2 months ago so I don't think he can drive it all that well yet.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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Good race...I test drove a couple WRXs, too, before I bought my '02 SE. I knew I wanted this car to be auto since I already have a couple of sticks, and an auto WRX seemed like a stupid thing to do - but they do make them for some reason!
Anyway, I only drove 5-spd. WRX wagons and I was pretty impressed with them...like the S2000, they aren't much down low, but once boost hits you are planted in your seat BUT GOOD . The thing is, when the mags post those wicked 0-60 times of like 5.2 sec., it's done by totally thrashing the car. A lot of people you might line up against are not gonna want to beat on their $25k car like that, and they end up with low 7's...then here you come in your high 6's Max and well obviously you know what can happen
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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auto maximas are about low to mid 6's and 6sp can even do high 5's
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by 2001SE
auto maximas are about low to mid 6's and 6sp can even do high 5's
D'Oh !!
Well then, no wonder mine feels so quick ...and there's no doubt the advantage goes to the one with the displacement/low end torque when going from a dead stop (unless there's a serious traction problem that is), so I have no trouble buying these Subie stories
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 11:48 PM
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Re: My 2k2 auto vs WRX manual last night (the best race i've had)

Originally posted by xfirepwr1
Finally learned how to launch my car. First time I raced my buddy's WRX was couple of months ago and he had me by 2 cars second time he also had me by 2 cars, that was because everytime I break torqued my car to about 2k and then stepped on the gas pedal too hard and my tires would spin till about 4-5k. Last night we lign up again and this time I took off like never before. Minimal tire spin, and I had him by 1/2 a car off the line we shut it down at 100 and I was 1 1/2 cars ahead of him. Then we catch another light and again I have a great launch, we again shut it down at 100 and I had him by a car. I could not believe that my max pulled on his WRX. BTW all I have is Franken intake, he has a full cat back exhaust I am auto and he is manual.
could you explain your launching method??
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 06:22 AM
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Re: Re: Re: My 2k2 auto vs WRX manual last night (the best race i've had)

Originally posted by amaxeatinvtecs


besides myself are their any other 2k1 autos that have taken wrx's off a roll?
driving in Btown couple weeks ago i was keeping up wit a wrx for a good length until i had to take an exit. im stock too. neva tried yet from a stop. im sure if i get a good launch in and when my ypipe, intake, and midpipe com in itl b a little easier
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 07:44 AM
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I am a 2k 5spd and tried to play with a WRX on hwy at 60-70mph from 5th gear. WRX gunned it. I downshifted but the hwy divided before I could say wazzup. I'd love to go against a WRX.
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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Re: Re: Re: My 2k2 auto vs WRX manual last night (the best race i've had)

Originally posted by amaxeatinvtecs


besides myself are their any other 2k1 autos that have taken wrx's off a roll?
Me, but I'm not an auto. And I take them from a roll and from a stop, doesn't matter...

Bryan
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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I'm willing to bet it wasn't a STi WRX that you went up against. While it is hard to believe a 3.0 Max would beat a WRX (unless the driver didn't know what they were doing), there is NO WAY a Maxima can keep up with the STi with its 4.6 sec 0-60 time and 13.2-sec 1/4-mile time.
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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The WRX has a really crappy stock cluch for launching the car. That could be a good reason you kept up with it off the line. IF you get to race one with a aftermarket cluch/flywheel from i dig there is not hope. I have seen WRXs kill cobras and SSs off the line with a really good driver. The WRXs also tend to loose their breathe in third gear, which would help you gain some ground.


Good kill
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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Re: Re: My 2k2 auto vs WRX manual last night (the best race i've had)

Originally posted by ToasterMax

could you explain your launching method??


Yes, you said that you finnally found out how to get a good launch. What did you differently? What is the best way for an auto 2k2 to launch off the line? Just wondering.
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by MAKSYMALNY
there is NO WAY a Maxima can keep up with the STi with its 4.6 sec 0-60 time and 13.2-sec 1/4-mile time. [/B]
Where did you get those times?????? I have seen 5 second flat.. consisently in many mags, but neva seen it at 4.6's.... You have to be in third by the time you hit 60. Must have been a GREAT GREAT driver...
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Re: Re: My 2k2 auto vs WRX manual last night (the best race i've had)

Originally posted by ToasterMax

could you explain your launching method??
The best launching mthod that worked for me is: Hold the brak with your left foot and get your RPMs to somewhere between 1500-1700. Then when its time to go, release the break pedal but dont press the gas yet let your car roll forward a little, then press it half way ( you should experience little spin of tires but just enough for your car to pull forward), then when u feel your car gripped the road floor it, and off you go, mess around with it to get the feel of it, it took me few tries before I got the hang of it.
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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xfirepwr, do you have traction control?
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by 02SEinStL
xfirepwr, do you have traction control?
No I dont.
BTW dont ever use TC when racing.your car looses a lot when u use TC
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by MAKSYMALNY
I'm willing to bet it wasn't a STi WRX that you went up against. While it is hard to believe a 3.0 Max would beat a WRX (unless the driver didn't know what they were doing), there is NO WAY a Maxima can keep up with the STi with its 4.6 sec 0-60 time and 13.2-sec 1/4-mile time.
A regular WRX- which are still sick- I know better not to fock with an STI- I aint beat! You can hear the diff between a riced out WRX and a stock one- just how your intake sounds diff from stock-
Anyway , like my man 02inStlou says- half
these ricers are soft and cannot push their cars like the pros do when road testing for a mag-
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by xfirepwr1

No I dont.
BTW dont ever use TC when racing.your car looses a lot when u use TC

Oh I know - TC is the first button I hit when driving the wife's GT Cruiser. I read where my '02 has TC standard, but I can bake em off pretty well and plus I don't see a defeat button anywhere - so do I have it or not? I'm thinkin not...
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by MannyNJ2k2max


A regular WRX- which are still sick- I know better not to fock with an STI- I aint beat! You can hear the diff between a riced out WRX and a stock one- just how your intake sounds diff from stock-
Anyway , like my man 02inStlou says- half
these ricers are soft and cannot push their cars like the pros do when road testing for a mag-
Hey like I said he beat me the first two times, then I beat him twice couple of days ago. If you get a real good launch like I did that night, you have a real good chance of beating WRX, it wasnt by much, but I still did it twice.
BTW he is my friend so I talked to him after and he said that he took off pretty good and he was impressed with my max. I dont want to get to cocky now because the next WRX that I race might smoke my a$$, all depends on my launch
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