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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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99 Max won't start - code 1402

My 99 Max stranded us today. It started fine at home but when I came out of the store after shopping and wouldn't fire. It turns over fine. I can't tell if the fuel pump is coming on or not because it's in a noisy parking lot.

I pulled the codes and got error code 14 (long flashes) and 02 (short flashes). When I went to motorvate's code reader, this isn't an option to enter.

Does anyone know what 1402 indicates? Also, did the codes change in 99? Last time I got an error code (for a rear O2 sensor) it didn't show on the motorvate's reader either.

Thanks for any help,

Allan
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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sorry, that code ain't on the list....
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by aedavis
My 99 Max stranded us today. It started fine at home but when I came out of the store after shopping and wouldn't fire. It turns over fine. I can't tell if the fuel pump is coming on or not because it's in a noisy parking lot.

I pulled the codes and got error code 14 (long flashes) and 02 (short flashes). When I went to motorvate's code reader, this isn't an option to enter.

Does anyone know what 1402 indicates? Also, did the codes change in 99? Last time I got an error code (for a rear O2 sensor) it didn't show on the motorvate's reader either.

Thanks for any help,

Allan
The closet thing would be 1302, you might be counting it wrong. and that means
Manifold Absolute Pressure Solenoid valve or circut fault.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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are you sure your battery is not weak? my dad's 2001 max did the same thing, we tried to jump it but it did not help, the lights and horn work fine. had it towed to dealer thay put a new battery in it and it started right up dealer said that if the computer does not get right voltage because of weak battery the car will not start.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by loco max
are you sure your battery is not weak? my dad's 2001 max did the same thing, we tried to jump it but it did not help, the lights and horn work fine. had it towed to dealer thay put a new battery in it and it started right up dealer said that if the computer does not get right voltage because of weak battery the car will not start.

OK let me ask you something did your dad maxima get any kind of Code? Did he have CEL on when this happened? If not please read what the author saying.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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Sheesh almost no one has an FSM.

It's an EGR problem. EGR flow is being detected under conditions that do not call for EGR.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sin
Sheesh almost no one has an FSM.

It's an EGR problem. EGR flow is being detected under conditions that do not call for EGR.

If you are looking at Haynes Manual, you probably looking at the OBD-II Trouble Code instead of what is coming from the ECU. He is getting the code from ECU not OBD-II. just look at the chart......
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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LOL, that information is from the FSM and I know he's talking about the ECU.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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LOL, that information is from the FSM and I know he's talking about the ECU.
It is funny how the OBD-II in haynes manual is the same code as what he got on the FSM.

P1402 EGR High flow Detected.

Ok we should find out which one is right or wrong? Because I a Baffled????
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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That's because the FSM has both consult and ECM codes side by side as well as the corresponding section in the FSM for diagnosis and repair.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sin
That's because the FSM has both consult and ECM codes side by side as well as the corresponding section in the FSM for diagnosis and repair.

well i don't know which one is right. because in the Haynes manual has two diffrent types of code which you can see. One is called, ODB-II Trouble codes....
the other one says Check Engine light flash code.... and in front the one that has the P1402 which is for the OBD-II trouble codes, says 0514. that means the Check engine light will flash 5 and then 14. this does not match the one the author wrote. he is talking about 14 and 2 flashes.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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I drug it home and pushed it in the garage. I checked the codes again and now it is showing 0505, or no errors detected. I wanted to confirm that 1402 code, but no luck.

I can hear the fuel pump running so I'm pretty sure I am not getting any spark (but I haven't confirmed that yet). Does this car have an igniter for all cylinders or is this function incorporated in the coil packs?

I'll update when I figure something out on it.

Thanks for the replies,

Allan
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by aedavis
I drug it home and pushed it in the garage. I checked the codes again and now it is showing 0505, or no errors detected. I wanted to confirm that 1402 code, but no luck.

I can hear the fuel pump running so I'm pretty sure I am not getting any spark (but I haven't confirmed that yet). Does this car have an igniter for all cylinders or is this function incorporated in the coil packs?

I'll update when I figure something out on it.

Thanks for the replies,

Allan
did you take the negative terminal off your battery?
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Assuming you got the right code, odds are, your EGR system registered the said fault, and may be keeping your engine from being started. When camshaft position sensors, park/neutral position switches, etc register a fault, the computer won't let the car start.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Ok these are some of the reason why the engine would not start...
These conditions happens if your engine is not rotating when you attemp to start.


1. Battery terminal connections loose or corroded.
2. Battery Discharged or Faulty.
3. Automatic transaxle not completely engaged in park. Or cluth pedal not completley depressed.
4. Broken, loose or disconnected wiring in the starting circut.
5. starter motor pinion jammes in flywheel ring gear.
6. Starter Solenoind faulty.
7. Starter motor fualty.
8. Ignition swithc faulty.
9. starter pinion or flywheel teeth worn or broken.
10. Defective battery .
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sin
Assuming you got the right code, odds are, your EGR system registered the said fault, and may be keeping your engine from being started. When camshaft position sensors, park/neutral position switches, etc register a fault, the computer won't let the car start.


I doubt a Bad EGR system, will stop the car from starting. but then maybe I am wrong.......

Question can you explaine to me? what do you mean by "said fualt"?
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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I spent a little time with the car tonight and found that I am getting spark but no gas. I checked out a Haynes and Chilton manual at the library and it looks like I might have a fuel pump problem or a fuel regulator problem.

More to follow,

Allan
Old Feb 27, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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I gave up on this and had it towed to the local dealer this morning. They did whatever they do and found that the chip in the keys was screwed up and had to reprogram both my keys. I haven't picked it up yet but the dealer told my wife that it is ready to go and starts fine.

What's up with these keys? The dealer service writer said that I must have tried to use the wrong key and it shut down the security feature, but that's crap. I have only one black plastic head key on my ring, the Max key so I didn't use the wrong key.

Has anyone else had this happen? Is there a way to bypass this key security feature so it doesn't strand me again?

Thanks,

Allan
Old Feb 27, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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Welcome to the club. I had the immobilizer problem as well. A number of others have as well. Supposedly the keys just lose their programming for no reason. No one has been able to figure out what causes it.

The only way to bypass it would be to remove the chip and mount in near your ignition i believe. You should just keep it and hope it doesnt happen again. Look at it this way. Your car is much more difficult to steal than any other 4th gen. 99's were the first year to get the immmoblizer chip.
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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I just had the same problem. Codes 1401 and 1402 are N.A.T.S. codes for the security system. I told the dealership the problem and towed the car over there. They were cool and reset my key codes for nothing. Lucky huh?
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