Better handling package
Better handling package
15x6.5 215/60/15 29.9 lbs. $764
16x7 225/50/16 40.2 lbs. $740
17x7 225/45/17 42.2 lbs. $860
17x7.5 235/45/17 43.8 lbs. $872
Which one of these wheel & tire packages
will give the best handling, small & light
or big & heavy.
16x7 225/50/16 40.2 lbs. $740
17x7 225/45/17 42.2 lbs. $860
17x7.5 235/45/17 43.8 lbs. $872
Which one of these wheel & tire packages
will give the best handling, small & light
or big & heavy.
It all depends. Motor Trend in the mid nineties did a plus 1,2, maybe even 3 test on a BMW 5series. That was when the BMW came with 15inchers. The best compromise was probably plus 1, maybe it was plus 2, I can't remember. Anyway cornering/slalom was best with the largest tires-but then again those were the most sports oriented-Pirelli P-Zeros. Heavy tires are harder to acclerate-so bigger were slower, except maybe for the plus 1s that gave better starting grip. Braking is tough to say because heavy wheels will be tougher to slow-but compounding factors are ABS interfacing with the different diameters, etc. Heavier tires are going to make the ride worse. Personally, I'd go for 16s. But then again the 17s don't weigh much more. I'd work on upgrading the suspension also.
having been on mine with 15s (205/65/15 and 215/60/15)
16s (225/50/16)
and 17s (235/45/17),
the handling on the 17s is superior in every way to the 15 and 16". acceleration, braking, and cornering are all much better. the only drawback is rain traction, since the tire is so much wider.
I would also venture to say that the better braking and acceleration are due to the wire tread being able to stick to the road- even though I can still spin them all the wya through 1st and part way through second.
16s (225/50/16)
and 17s (235/45/17),
the handling on the 17s is superior in every way to the 15 and 16". acceleration, braking, and cornering are all much better. the only drawback is rain traction, since the tire is so much wider.
I would also venture to say that the better braking and acceleration are due to the wire tread being able to stick to the road- even though I can still spin them all the wya through 1st and part way through second.
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
having been on mine with 15s (205/65/15 and 215/60/15)
16s (225/50/16)
and 17s (235/45/17),
the handling on the 17s is superior in every way to the 15 and 16". acceleration, braking, and cornering are all much better. the only drawback is rain traction, since the tire is so much wider.
I would also venture to say that the better braking and acceleration are due to the wire tread being able to stick to the road- even though I can still spin them all the wya through 1st and part way through second.
16s (225/50/16)
and 17s (235/45/17),
the handling on the 17s is superior in every way to the 15 and 16". acceleration, braking, and cornering are all much better. the only drawback is rain traction, since the tire is so much wider.
I would also venture to say that the better braking and acceleration are due to the wire tread being able to stick to the road- even though I can still spin them all the wya through 1st and part way through second.
Brian
The bigger the rims, the more rotating mass. That means slower launches and poorer braking. Big rims look better but actually slow your car down. Read the MaxFaqs on this website. The 3rd generation VE with 15's is slightly faster than a 5th generation with 17's. Even though the 5th generation has 32 more horsepower.
That's assuming your brakes aren't up to par or you're limited by power.
I run 0.3 sec better on my 25lb (53lb each with tire!!) 17s in the 1/4 mile than I do when I run my light 16s.
it's a traction problem.
Same with stopping the car- you're limited by the tires, NOT the wheels.
Honestly, you'r enot going to see much difference between a 15 and a 17" in overall times if you keep the same skinny tires as what's on stock rims. once you go wider, you get so much more traction... same with going to a larger wheel- they give you a much stiffer sidewall, which benefits cornering much more than the weight savings of a 15" wheel.
I run 0.3 sec better on my 25lb (53lb each with tire!!) 17s in the 1/4 mile than I do when I run my light 16s.
it's a traction problem.
Same with stopping the car- you're limited by the tires, NOT the wheels.
Honestly, you'r enot going to see much difference between a 15 and a 17" in overall times if you keep the same skinny tires as what's on stock rims. once you go wider, you get so much more traction... same with going to a larger wheel- they give you a much stiffer sidewall, which benefits cornering much more than the weight savings of a 15" wheel.
I just put on my 18's 2 weeks ago (going from stock 15's as my winter wheel set) and I honestly could notice no discernable difference in acceleration (granted, my 18's are fairly light - 19lbs each). However, fluctuations in temperature produced more differences in acceleration than the wheels. So, I say if the 17's aren't disgustingly heavy (>25lbs) then go for them. They'll look nicer and handle better.
Well I guess all the cr@p on the old MaxFaqs was full of it. It actually said a 3rd generation (92-94 SE) with 15's was faster than a 5th generation with 17's. I always thought it was fishy and it even showed a chart. I guess too many 5th generation Maximas proved the MaxFaqs wrong.
http://www.machiii.net/wheels/rota_subzero.html
17x7.5 - 16.5 lbs. per wheel - $550 per set (yeah, $550 for 4 wheels)
17x7.5 - 16.5 lbs. per wheel - $550 per set (yeah, $550 for 4 wheels)
Originally Posted by Paul89SE
Well I guess all the cr@p on the old MaxFaqs was full of it. It actually said a 3rd generation (92-94 SE) with 15's was faster than a 5th generation with 17's. I always thought it was fishy and it even showed a chart. I guess too many 5th generation Maximas proved the MaxFaqs wrong.
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