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VQ35 aftermarket cams in a VQ30 possible? Why not?

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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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VQ35 cams in a VQ30 possible? Why not?

Can SR20DEN or anyone explain this to me?

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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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*bump*

Anyone?
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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i would like to know as well
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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didn't it have to do with the variable valve/cam timing in the VQ35? (forgot what it is called)

VVTC? variable valve timing cams?
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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As far as I know, that just changes the cam orientation to start opening/closing valves sooner or later. However, because of that additional range, its profile(lift/duration) would probably be waaay off. That and the VQ35s added displacement and higher port angle heads.

Just wondering whether it's possible or not, since I really don't know. Hoping one of the engine gurus will chime in here.
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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wasnt there somone who put in some 3.0 parts with 3.5 parts and called it a 3.3 litre engine? I forgot, but it was in the general discussion... I thought they put in some cams in there too.. Yo Ice, you know what im talking about?
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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This I have been wondering too. The 3.5 has alot of cam choices and valvtrain parts .
If these will just bolt on the 3.0 it will make my life alot brighter
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Oxidizer2k
wasnt there somone who put in some 3.0 parts with 3.5 parts and called it a 3.3 litre engine? I forgot, but it was in the general discussion... I thought they put in some cams in there too.. Yo Ice, you know what im talking about?
that vq33de stroker engine is only using the vq35de crankshaft and rods. Everything else is still from the vq30de
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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You can get new VQ35 NISMO cams for $800!

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This I have been wondering too. The 3.5 has alot of cam choices and valvtrain parts .
If these will just bolt on the 3.0 it will make my life alot brighter
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
You can get new VQ35 NISMO cams for $800!
Whoa!! What you talking about Willis? Where?
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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Not saying UNTIL I find out THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.

Not real hard to find, but there's only one set.
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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Mardigrasmax can answer this one best. I know why but he's the one that found the answer so I will let him explain.
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
You can get new VQ35 NISMO cams for $800!
Im sold if there not to mild

But no one wants to answer the ?.
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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The answer is that they wont work without machine work.
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:05 AM
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Explain SR, by the time Mardi gets here, they'll be gone. Probably already are.
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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I asked one dealer about Nismo cams and he said the ones offered for the VQ35DE are blanks. Why would Nismo even bother to make them?
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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They're not blanks.
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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U have to machine the sprocket attachement point on the 3.5L cam vs the 3.0L. The cam sprockets are totally diff. The cam will fit in the head with no problem. I've done Nismo R-Tune Cams already.... comparing em to stock 3.0L cams they look identical but the sprocket face is diff. And NO I do not have any cams in my Maxima. It was someone elses car I was working on.
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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what about these?

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/cus....asp?PartID=24
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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Anyways, they can be had for under $800 now probably, since the guy said OBO and nobody has offered.

Who wants them?
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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hmmm.....
PM me a link please.
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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Sent.

Good luck~!
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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I made an offer.
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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SR20DEN, the cam install is pretty EZ if U done SR20 cams in the past. Problem is- U need to take the engine front cover off- unlike on the SR20s where U are able to slip the cams out. I'm sure U know what ur getting into here. Unless ya have someone install em for ya then dissregard my post I'm getting slow with my Maxima mods with 3 SR20DE powered cars layn around right now ! So cams on my VQ will have to wait- plus the 3.0L cams only gain bout 15WHP on the K motor according to JWT. Which don't justiffy my labor and $$$ put into the motor to gain that 15WHP.
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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The VQ cam install is NOTHING like the SR install. I can install SR cams in an hour. A VQ cam install will take at least ten or more.

And no one turns wrenches on my car but me.
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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Oooo trust me I know its nothing like a SR install, I've done cams in bout hour also in a SR20. VQ is totally diff. Lemme tell ya how I do em.... I've done a 350Z which is somewhat similar. Remove the intake manifold- top section, remove the timing cover, set engine at TDC, remove the big chain, then proceed to relief tension on the 2 tensioners on the 2 little chains for the cams. VQ has 3 chains on it. And has 3 or 4 tensioners- one on each little chain and I think 2 on the big chain if I remember correctly. Then remove the valve covers... I mean I don't wanna be like do this diss and that. I think U know what I'm trying to say... its not that hard. I think the hardest part of the install is getting the front cover off- on a 350Z U gotta drop down the oil pan to get to the bolts that go through the upper oil pan- just like on a SR20. I wouldn't even try doing these with no FSM. Good luck let us know how it turns out. I took my intake off my Maxima one time already and don't plan on doing it again. Otherwise U are like half way down to doing the cams when the intake is off the K motor. Lemme know if U need any help.
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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You're beating a dead horse here. I have already removed and installed another VQ35 in this car as well as removed the timing chain assembly off the one sitting on the engine stand.

A 350Z install is actually a little easier than a Maxima because you have more room to work with and you dont have to remove the main engine mount.
And yes I know exactly what Im getting into here if I get cams. I work on Kroutwagons for a living.

Perhaps I am misreading the context of what you've written but it appears you're trying to drop some knowlege on me for some reason.
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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nahh like I explained on AIM... just helping a fellow .org member out
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