17 inch wheels or 18 inch?
17 inch wheels or 18 inch?
For those of you with 18 inch wheels, is the ride quality sacrificed by the rim size- i.e. Is the ride bumpier or harsher than stock? IF so by how much and would going with 17 inchers be a better compromise?
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Are you kidding? Normal driving will have you replacing 18s every 3-4 months AT LEAST Beyond that, just look at the tires... rubber bands, man. Fail to swerve even once and your tires and possibly rims are gone.. I say 17s... but that's what I'm wearing...
I've had 18's since I bought my car in 98. I would not go with 18's unless I had too much cash. They get banged up easily and ur out 150 bucks a rim to get them fixed. Tires are too much, very good tires cost around 250 bucks. I am looking to switch to 17's, or even 16's. 17's run for like 125-150 bucks and 16" tires run for around 80 bucks or so. This is a recurring cost, In my openion keeping it as low as possible is the way to go.
depends of the design of the wheel. If you have open wheels (like mine) your 17s will look bigger. if you are lowered your 17s will look bigger. of course 18s look better, but well.... where i am here (Quebec, Canada) there's no way you could drive 18s for 3 summers with same tires. roads are WAY too screwed up heh. I say look for 17s with open design
I have the stock 15" sawblades on my 95SE (5-speed). I can get some 16" wheels with near-new Falken 512s from a 98SE. Is that worth pursuing or would I be best advised to go to at least 17".
Apart from cosmetics and not being referred to as a 4x4 what operational benefits, if any, can one obtain from going up in wheel size. I don't intend to change the suspension anytime soon and it is still stock of course.
Will the car handler better? How will it peform in relative terms in the rain, which is a concern to me? What about ride? What about fuel economy - city and highway?
Thanks
Apart from cosmetics and not being referred to as a 4x4 what operational benefits, if any, can one obtain from going up in wheel size. I don't intend to change the suspension anytime soon and it is still stock of course.
Will the car handler better? How will it peform in relative terms in the rain, which is a concern to me? What about ride? What about fuel economy - city and highway?
Thanks
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17s are perfect. If I had a million dollars to spend on my car, I'd still choose 17s. Perfect compromise between increased handling but not adding too much horsepower-sapping weight and keeping a decent ride quality. And of course another beni. is the rims are cheaper as well as the tires. Forget looks, go for performance. 17s are lighter than 18s. Good luck.
the only advantage you might get would be from a wider , not bigger rim. That advantage would only come to life with a wider tire. Going bigger rims only adds weight, which hampers acceleration. bigger rims are for looks only, not performance. To be more correct, its not the size of the rim , it is the wight that is the problem....a bigger rim will generaly weigh more.
Originally Posted by 98fiveSpeed
the only advantage you might get would be from a wider , not bigger rim. That advantage would only come to life with a wider tire. Going bigger rims only adds weight, which hampers acceleration. bigger rims are for looks only, not performance. To be more correct, its not the size of the rim , it is the wight that is the problem....a bigger rim will generaly weigh more.
This helps me somewhat. So I'm presently on the stock 15" sawblades and I don't know what width the wheel is. I'm not into the appearance aspect of the wheels, but I am interested in the handling characteristics and I want to stay with the stock suspension for the time being. So should I just buy new tires or consider changing my wheels to a wider wheel. It strikes me that there would be more resistance from the wider wheel and I wonder if my stock 215-60R-15s would be better in the rain than a wider wheel and tire? I suspect by gas mileage, particularly in the city, would be better with what I presently have, although I will probably switch from the Goodyear Eagle RSAs which will last at least 60,000 miles, despite being slammed repeatedly on the .org.
Originally Posted by RichMax
Are you kidding? Normal driving will have you replacing 18s every 3-4 months AT LEAST Beyond that, just look at the tires... rubber bands, man. Fail to swerve even once and your tires and possibly rims are gone.. I say 17s... but that's what I'm wearing... 

Your pretty wrong obviously since your riding on 17s. Your making 18s to sound like their some cumbersome 24's. You can have just as meaty a tire on 18s (245-40/18 for example). The ride isnt THAT much worse, if your on bigger tires. Also, if you fail to swerve even once with your 17s, your tires and rims can be just as gone

If your into speed/better ride quality - 17s
Into looks - 18s
A true pimp - 19s
Are crazy/have lots of money - 20s (and only ONE max that ive EVER seen has pulled off 20s, and they were NOT chrome. i forget his SN name, but he was a pretty nice guy.)
-eric
Last edited by Maximeltman; Aug 31, 2011 at 01:00 AM.
I know a kid with 20's on his 2002 Max and there chrome!
Anyways I have 18's and I hit stuff all the time and i haven't blown a tire yet. Also i've been riding on the same tires for 6 months and the roads out here suck and there is really not too much wear on them. I also noticed that I have somewhat better handling and the ride quality is not reduced all that much unless you lower your car.
What I'm trying to say is 18's and nothing less!
Anyways I have 18's and I hit stuff all the time and i haven't blown a tire yet. Also i've been riding on the same tires for 6 months and the roads out here suck and there is really not too much wear on them. I also noticed that I have somewhat better handling and the ride quality is not reduced all that much unless you lower your car.
What I'm trying to say is 18's and nothing less!
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
This helps me somewhat. So I'm presently on the stock 15" sawblades and I don't know what width the wheel is. I'm not into the appearance aspect of the wheels, but I am interested in the handling characteristics and I want to stay with the stock suspension for the time being. So should I just buy new tires or consider changing my wheels to a wider wheel. It strikes me that there would be more resistance from the wider wheel and I wonder if my stock 215-60R-15s would be better in the rain than a wider wheel and tire? I suspect by gas mileage, particularly in the city, would be better with what I presently have, although I will probably switch from the Goodyear Eagle RSAs which will last at least 60,000 miles, despite being slammed repeatedly on the .org.
It strikes me that there would be more resistance from the wider wheel and I wonder if my stock 215-60R-15s would be better in the rain than a wider wheel and tire?
Thanks for responses guys. I decided to go with 18s- Specifically new 2004 Murano 5 spoke 18x7.5 which I got for $300 off of ebay. The price was right and I like the design plus the 7.5 inch width allows for wider tire. Probably run 245/40-18s on it .
Originally Posted by d280c
Thanks for responses guys. I decided to go with 18s- Specifically new 2004 Murano 5 spoke 18x7.5 which I got for $300 off of ebay. The price was right and I like the design plus the 7.5 inch width allows for wider tire. Probably run 245/40-18s on it .
Would you please do us all a favour and weigh these rims and post back? They look really good on our cars IMHO.
Originally Posted by d280c
Thanks for responses guys. I decided to go with 18s- Specifically new 2004 Murano 5 spoke 18x7.5 which I got for $300 off of ebay. The price was right and I like the design plus the 7.5 inch width allows for wider tire. Probably run 245/40-18s on it .
Originally Posted by 98fiveSpeed
245s on a 7.5?? I wonder how much the tire will stick out..
Also the Murano rim weight is 22 +/-2 lbs, I read the scale incorrectly. Sorry
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Originally Posted by d280c
I could not help but notice you have 245s- are they 245/45-18 ? and I didn't understand your question about how much the tire will stick out. Do you mean out of the fender? I doubt it, the offset is either 35 or 38mm. Do you think 245/40-18 will rub significantly on turning?
Also the Murano rim weight is 22 +/-2 lbs, I read the scale incorrectly. Sorry
Also the Murano rim weight is 22 +/-2 lbs, I read the scale incorrectly. Sorry
When he says 'stick out', he means the "buldge" you get when putting a wide tire on a skinny rim. I personally like a little buldge (that didn't come out very well, did it?) because it helps protect the edge of the rim and I think it looks better.
i've had cheap 21lb ADR 18" wheels on my car for the past 3 years with 235 40 18 rubber bands, and they haven't given me any problems. I do a lot of driving on the crappy streets near uc berkeley and in pot hole ridden san francisco.. i'm an advocate for 18s. I do think oem 17"s off 2k-2k1 maxes look nice on 4th gens too.
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Originally Posted by 99Maxima5sp
Your pretty wrong obviously since your riding on 17s. Your making 18s to sound like their some cumbersome 24's. You can have just as meaty a tire on 18s (245-40/18 for example). The ride isnt THAT much worse, if your on bigger tires. Also, if you fail to swerve even once with your 17s, your tires and rims can be just as gone 
If your into speed/better ride quality - 17s
Into looks - 18s
A true pimp - 19s
Are crazy/have lots of money - 20s (and only ONE max that ive EVER seen has pulled off 20s, and they were NOT chrome. i forget his SN name, but he was a pretty nice guy.)
-eric

If your into speed/better ride quality - 17s
Into looks - 18s
A true pimp - 19s
Are crazy/have lots of money - 20s (and only ONE max that ive EVER seen has pulled off 20s, and they were NOT chrome. i forget his SN name, but he was a pretty nice guy.)
-eric
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18's do look good, but if you get a nice looking open spaced rim like KLiNkER said then it will all be good. mille miglias have the best looking rims and their rims look bigger than they acually are.
just think that if you got bigger the chance of crap happening is greater and so i the cost to fix it. if you want to maybe spend the money, go for the gold and get them bigger. i personally choose 17;s.
just think that if you got bigger the chance of crap happening is greater and so i the cost to fix it. if you want to maybe spend the money, go for the gold and get them bigger. i personally choose 17;s.
Last edited by Maximeltman; Aug 31, 2011 at 01:02 AM.
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