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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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FYI - new hyperground setup for VQ35

For you 3.5 guys....looks like Nissan itself is now admitting that the factory grounds suck and are selling a ground kit....

http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan..._Code=GRND-A33

not sure why you'd pay $80 for something you can do yourself in 2 hours for $25 in materials, but this one does appear to be one of the nicer HG sets out there in terms of appearance and materials.....

just thought I'd give the heads-up.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:37 PM
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Dag we need a group deal on Hypergrounding kit
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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Good find Josh. Wonder how much Nissan will charge to install this for you? (if you don't choose to do it yourself)
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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heh

more like, nissan is cashing in on an obvious can of snake oil ; )

j/k.


Whatever makes you guys happy, my groundwires definatly make me feel special hehe.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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group buy now!!!!!!!!!!

its gonna be my next mod
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mjg
more like, nissan is cashing in on an obvious can of snake oil ; )


They're not admitting the grounding sucks, they recognized it's something people are willing to buy, crunched some numbers, and figured it's going to be a profitable item.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 05:22 AM
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They're not admitting the grounding sucks, they recognized it's something people are willing to buy, crunched some numbers, and figured it's going to be a profitable item.
...by the tune of 400%!
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 05:37 AM
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<Nissan Engineer> : "Doh! what fools we've been not installing pretty, colored ground wires into all our nissans. Foolish us, it adds 15 horsepower, and everyone knows that grounding improvements can definatly be an excellent alternative to a loud exhaust system, a computer chip, or an intake that we've should've installed in the first place...."



<guy going to dealer> : "Yes, i'm here to ask about the ground wire re-call, apparantly you guys admit to a major problem here, and i'd like to deal with this pressing issue that you guys acknowledge"


<nissan service guy> : "HAHAHAHHA"

<guy going to dealer> : "doh!"
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GreekMaxima
group buy now!!!!!!!!!!

its gonna be my next mod
YA, we'll all go down to Home Depot at precisely 10:38 am on Saturday and buy wires! Easy DIY mod to pay for with the change left in you car if you just buy wires and connectors...
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:43 AM
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Um, that's not a Nissan part.

Courtesy made that and sells it. There's no reason to think that Nissan made it.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:07 AM
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Is the current OEM grounding system that inefficient?? Granted it probably makes the engine bay look like something more but any gains felt would have to be a placebo affect. $.02
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Is the current OEM grounding system that inefficient??
No.



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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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Is the current OEM grounding system that inefficient?? Granted it probably makes the engine bay look like something more but any gains felt would have to be a placebo affect. $.02
I agree. I might do it just for looks though.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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looking at this, its $30 more than the blehmco one, it obviously does the same thing, its just prettier than the blehmco one. in the interest of saving money and helping another ORG member, i would get matt's. ill just need to bug him about how to install it, haha.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mzmtg
Um, that's not a Nissan part.

Courtesy made that and sells it. There's no reason to think that Nissan made it.
Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. Courtesy is making that not Nissan
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Do you know where I can find the post for the VQ30. I want to do this to my car.. 01 SE
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lontar1
Do you know where I can find the post for the VQ30. I want to do this to my car.. 01 SE
hit the link in KCMC582's post.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sloppymax
hit the link in KCMC582's post.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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Where do these 4 wires actually connect to?? is there a how-to somewhere?
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutlr7
Hayden comes through once again......
i am not sure who hayden is, im haydn.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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the courtesyparts one will come with instructions, but the only write ups and how tos i have found are for the 5th gen, not the 5.5...im hopin when i order from matt blehm he can tell me where to install it...unless someone else has a how to for the VQ35.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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Why not get these for $30 less, they look very good.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Why not get these for $30 less, they look very good.
These look even better and are only $33 (inc. shipping)
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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^^That's what I have. I installed it on a separate negative post since I have a red top Optima battery. I also added a few more grounding wires to the set.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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These look even better and are only $33 (inc. shipping)
da** these are looks so nice!!!! thanks man...
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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just for all you guys who are doubters, I have installed the "home depot" grounding setup (with 6ga wiring) on 4 peoples' maximas now, and every one of them (including myself) can feel the difference in engine smoothness, pull, and a few other minor improvements. Does it add actual HP? no, probably not. Does it improve the engine's performance. Yes, without a doubt. By the way, the "theory" behind beefing up the VERY small factory grounds is, from an electrical engineering standpoint, solid.

seems to me that the people who HAVE done some kind of grounding are the ones who say that it works.

The people who keep saying it's "snake oil" or "just for looks" always seem to be the ones who haven't actually done it....

as for looks...well, those of us who have the home depot "hyperground" certainly didn't do it for looks......
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
as for looks...well, those of us who have the home depot "hyperground" certainly didn't do it for looks......
I know... I saw Gooey's today...

JK... anyways... I saw how y'all set it up for him and I might try to do it sometime... I always say that....
Old Nov 17, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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Hmm funny.. I'd like to see the lengths on that Courtesy kit.. looks like an exact copy of mine as far as the lengths are concerned..

only difference is the size of the wire...
Old Nov 17, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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Bad grounds cause all sorts of nasty troubles, so it makes sense to me that having good ground connections would be beneficial. I seem to recall certain VWs that had one ground strap for the entire electrical system, that tended to rust out and/or fall off...

Ah, the good old days

I'll probably buy/install one of these eventually, if i get my new job, anyway.
It can't hurt, and it might help.
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Sorry to bring this back up, but I just got my nismo ground kit off ebay for $23 shipped and would like to know where to attach this stuff. any help would be great. I didnt find instructions for it anywhere.

Thanks

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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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wat does the hypergrounding do?
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by nexus_7
Sorry to bring this back up, but I just got my nismo ground kit off ebay for $23 shipped and would like to know where to attach this stuff. any help would be great. I didnt find instructions for it anywhere.

Thanks

Greg
Check Irish's homepage for some pictures of the HG on a 5th Gen... if ya haven't already....
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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I know Irish has the 3.0 write up. Does anyone have a write up for the 3.5?
Thanks
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by s_hinerman
I know Irish has the 3.0 write up. Does anyone have a write up for the 3.5?
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Maybe Bluesbrekr can throw something together for ya? You could try asking him, I know he has the grounding wires on his 3.5 and some pics... but not a real write-up...

Are the grounding points that different on a 3.0 than a 3.5? (sorry, I'm uneducated and inexperienced in this aspect)
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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anyone know where the best grounding points are for the 3.5 i'm taking my hypergrounds off my 97
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