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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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Problem with Fidanza Flywheel Install.

Well finally had some free time this weelend so I pulled the tranny this afternoon and I am installing a 5th gen clutch with a fidanza flywheel. I hit a dead end when it came time to install the new flywheel.

The problem is that while the fidanza flywheel does come with the big teeth ring gear for the starter motor, but it does NOT come with the smaller teeth ring gear. It is the signal plate that is used for the POS crank sensor. With out it, I am pretty sure the car wont even start!!

When I got my flywheel a few weeks ago I DID notice this but I thought that the signal plate would be able to come off of the old flywheel and then I would have to put it on the fidanza one... well the signal plate is actually riveted on the back of the larger ring gear... so there is no way of getting it off. I took an gamble and lost!

Did I get the wrong flywheel? It seems many others have installed the fidanza with no mention of this problem! Do I have to return this thing and just go with stillen which actually makes you reuse the both the larger ring gear for the starter and the smaller ring gear for the POS?

Also, what about the smaller disk that sits on front of the old flywheel? The FSM calls it the flywheel reinforcement. The flywheel bolts go through it, then through the flywheel, and into the crank. Do I need to reuse it with the fidanza?

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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during my install of the fidanza flywheel i had to take the ring(located on the engine side of the flywheel, as opposed to the transmission side of the flywheel) off of the old flywheel and add it on the fidanza flywheel. this ring has teeth on it, and is used for the crank sensor position switch. i did notice however there were spot welds and bolts connecting the ring on too the flywheel. if you take the bolts off you can pyr the ring off easily. if not take a dremel and go through the welds. then just bolt up the ring to the fidanza. however i also noticed that the fidanza and the ring dont have the same number of holes to bolt together. the holes do line up, but there are (i think, can't remeber) 6 holes on fidanza flywheel, and 7 holes on the ring, so there will be one stray hole. this might be for balance, or for weighting that fidanza came up with. but that should be it. if there are any other problems just PM me.
Old Jul 17, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Yea, i would like to hear about any other problems your having b/c im about to do the 5spd swap on my max and i was going to go with the fidanza flywheel
Old Jul 17, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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I believe only some 1995 Maxima's have problems with the Fidanza/hole position problems. If you'll notice, application is for 1996+.
Old Jul 17, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyMaxGTR
during my install of the fidanza flywheel i had to take the ring(located on the engine side of the flywheel, as opposed to the transmission side of the flywheel) off of the old flywheel and add it on the fidanza flywheel. this ring has teeth on it, and is used for the crank sensor position switch. i did notice however there were spot welds and bolts connecting the ring on too the flywheel. if you take the bolts off you can pyr the ring off easily. if not take a dremel and go through the welds. then just bolt up the ring to the fidanza. however i also noticed that the fidanza and the ring dont have the same number of holes to bolt together. the holes do line up, but there are (i think, can't remeber) 6 holes on fidanza flywheel, and 7 holes on the ring, so there will be one stray hole. this might be for balance, or for weighting that fidanza came up with. but that should be it. if there are any other problems just PM me.
Thanks for the reply... I was talking to I30tMikeD and he said the same thing too. I guess I am going to have to pick up a manual flywheel since I am in the middle of a 5spd conversion and the signal plate on the auto drive plate is riveted to the back (not bolted) so I cant get it off. I was hoping to be down for only about 3 days, but it looks like its gonna be a week now instead. Thaks again.
Old Jul 17, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mishmosh
I believe only some 1995 Maxima's have problems with the Fidanza/hole position problems. If you'll notice, application is for 1996+.
The CE invoice says 95-01.
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by i30ds
Thanks for the reply... I was talking to I30tMikeD and he said the same thing too. I guess I am going to have to pick up a manual flywheel since I am in the middle of a 5spd conversion and the signal plate on the auto drive plate is riveted to the back (not bolted) so I cant get it off. I was hoping to be down for only about 3 days, but it looks like its gonna be a week now instead. Thaks again.

Errrr, drill bit?
rivets aren't permanent dude.
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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after a lil work mine fit, but make sure to bolt it up to the crank evenly or itll bend, thats what i was told
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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If your interested its been in there for a couple days
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=415590
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Errrr, drill bit?
rivets aren't permanent dude.
I am aware.. but the holes that they would come out of do not line up with the holes on the back of the fidanza.
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zack342
If your interested its been in there for a couple days
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=415590
Sent you PM.
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by i30ds
Thanks for the reply... I was talking to I30tMikeD and he said the same thing too. I guess I am going to have to pick up a manual flywheel since I am in the middle of a 5spd conversion and the signal plate on the auto drive plate is riveted to the back (not bolted) so I cant get it off. I was hoping to be down for only about 3 days, but it looks like its gonna be a week now instead. Thaks again.
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I am aware.. but the holes that they would come out of do not line up with the holes on the back of the fidanza.
i dont know if the second quote was based on the automatic drive plate that you mentioned in the first quote, but the holes will match up correctly with the plate (ring with teeth) found on the back of the 95-01 stock flywheel. the only problem is, is that there are like 7 holes on the plate(if mishmosh's quote is true
Originally Posted by mishmosh
I believe only some 1995 Maxima's have problems with the Fidanza/hole position problems. If you'll notice, application is for 1996+
then only on the 95 plate), and only 6 holes on the fidanza. its hard to picture it without an image but the 6 holes on the plate that match up to the fidanza, do match up perfectly. but theres a "stray" hole that sits inbetween 2 of the holes. don't worry about fitment issue, it fits snug and tight, just make sure that they are torqued properly.

venommaxr33- thats been the only issue that i have came across, or have felt. i did the 5sp swap too, and you live in SA, if you need any help just PM me.

hope this all helps
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyMaxGTR
i dont know if the second quote was based on the automatic drive plate that you mentioned in the first quote, but the holes will match up correctly with the plate (ring with teeth) found on the back of the 95-01 stock flywheel. the only problem is, is that there are like 7 holes on the plate(if mishmosh's quote is true then only on the 95 plate), and only 6 holes on the fidanza. its hard to picture it without an image but the 6 holes on the plate that match up to the fidanza, do match up perfectly. but theres a "stray" hole that sits inbetween 2 of the holes. don't worry about fitment issue, it fits snug and tight, just make sure that they are torqued properly.

venommaxr33- thats been the only issue that i have came across, or have felt. i did the 5sp swap too, and you live in SA, if you need any help just PM me.

hope this all helps
The second quote was based on the auto drive plate. It the holes (if I were to drill out the rivets) would be too far out towards the edge of the flywheel and would not line up.
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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so is this only on the 4th gen? what about the 5.5 gen max?
Old May 29, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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so wait...I'm still a little confused here, and I'm about to do a 5-speed conversion on someones '95 maxima....

Am I going to be able to use a fidanze on his '95 or do I have to find a m/t '95 flywheel?? Also, once the rivets are ground off of the '95 auto flywheel pos signal plate, will it then bolt up to the fidanza?

tia for any help
Old May 29, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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You will need a stock flywheel to get the timing ring off of.
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