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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Tranny gurus, please step in...

Hello org,

I've researched this topic and I believe that the issue as stated in the first link that i've provided below is the answer to my questions. As I accelerate through my gears the "whine" grows louder. When i'm in neutral with my foot off the clutch resting on my dead pedal there isn't any noise. The noise only prevails while drving in gear.

This is the determining quote from the first thread:

Originally Posted by i30ds
Dont think it is the release bearing... More than likely it is one of the main or input shaft bearings on the tranny. Eric and I just got his resolved on his 96 I30 5spd.

The funny thing is that we first noticed the whine at the drive through at Wendy's too! He thought that it was the throw out too but after reading this: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....g+clutch+noise

I convinced him other wise. He taliked to the guys at the tranny shop and they agreed that it was an internal bearing. So we pulled his tranny (for the 3rd time) and dropped it off at the tranny shop for a complete rebuild. We put the thing back in WITH the old release bearing (only had a few K on it since we were in there last fall to replace is sh!tty spec clutch that fried after 8K) and the whine is now gone.

The shop gave us a box full of bearings and syncros and I must say that those bearings had some decent wear to them. One in paticular was extremely pitted all over the rollers.

I would drop in that 96 I30 5spd you got layin around. Since that thing was recently rebuilt, you should be good to go for a while once it is in.
So my question to you all as what would be involved in a complete rebuild of a transmission? i'd like to do this myself and essentially what i'm asking for is a list of "ingredients" needed for this rebuild. I doubt that there are any "how-to's" for this project, but if there is one somewhere I would appreciate it greatly. Of course I do have the FSM for any other info needed.

Here are the major two threads that I have reviewed before posting and yes I do know how to use the search function.

1. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=418581&highlight=clutch+bearing

2. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=388091&highlight=bearing+clutch+n oise

Thank you

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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Sounds like the classic differential bearing problem. Parts...buy a bearing kit, new synchros, and new seals.
Old May 18, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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thank you for your response.

how hard do you think this fix is? once the tranny is dropped of course...

and would there be anything else that I could fix once in there? my gears aren't shifting as nicely as they once were. the clutch was replaced a few years ago. about 100k.
Old May 18, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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I've never done it myself, but I do have a dead tranny core that I'm thinking of rebuilding. The hard shifting may be improved with new synchros.

Jclaw rebuilt one of these trannys with no prior experience.

Might wanna check this out.

http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/806
Old May 18, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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my impression is that manual trannys are pretty easy to rebuild as long as you pay attention to how everything came off. ive seen the inside of a few different types and they arent all to tricky, just have to know where stuff came from.
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excellent link. i'm in debt to you for that link.

it hurts me to drive my car and have it whine like its dying.

thanks a lot.
Old May 18, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by resurrectedmax
excellent link. i'm in debt to you for that link.

it hurts me to drive my car and have it whine like its dying.

thanks a lot.
I know how you feel. I had my 5spd die, not once, but twice in my 2000 maxima. It's not just hurting you, but your tranny. Get it fixed ASAP.
Old May 18, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
I know how you feel. I had my 5spd die, not once, but twice in my 2000 maxima. It's not just hurting you, but your tranny. Get it fixed ASAP.
yeah, hopefully i can get her done this weekend.

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my impression is that manual trannys are pretty easy to rebuild as long as you pay attention to how everything came off. ive seen the inside of a few different types and they arent all to tricky, just have to know where stuff came from.
i hope for my sake that this is true.


you guys have a ballpark of how much these parts will cost?
Old May 18, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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You can download the FSM here.

http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...sm/a32-for.pdf

With the motorvate link and the FSM, you should be able to do it yourself. Just remember to be very meticulous in your work. Be sure to clean the tranny throughly and do it in a clean and spacious work area.

You might want to contact jclaw for some pointers.
Old May 18, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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I'm not sure if you can get this done in a weekend since the parts may be a little hard to come by, especially the shims. I priced it out once for the bearings and synchros and I think it came to around $350 from Dave B.
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thanks for the heads up, i'll talk to my local dealership who hooks it up strong for the Toronto Maxima Club.

now i'm pumped.

anyone have the contact for the author of that motorvate site? or is that jclaw?
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
I'm not sure if you can get this done in a weekend since the parts may be a little hard to come by, especially the shims. I priced it out once for the bearings and synchros and I think it came to around $350 from Dave B.
i just got a price from my nissan dealership and they gave me a quote for about 650!

help?

that price included new synchros, axle seals and two separate bearings?
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Originally Posted by resurrectedmax
i just got a price from my nissan dealership and they gave me a quote for about 650!

help?

that price included new synchros, axle seals and two separate bearings?
That's a pretty good price. Make sure they put the correct shims in there though.
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that price is just for parts though.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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anyone have contact info for the motivate site owner?
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any suggestions on why these parts cost 650 without install?

i will be buying these parts in the morning, cant fill any more fluid in, runs out like water.
Old Jul 30, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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because synchros aren't cheap. download FAST and look up the part numbers yourself, then punch them in at nissanparts.cc and you can see they're not cheap.
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what is FAST?

should i even bother with the synchros?
Old Jul 30, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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You should weigh up if a new (used) trans is cheaper.. or go thru a trans shop who can get the prices at trade... and give you warrenty.. and do the job right
Old Jul 31, 2006 | 04:11 AM
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I rebuilt mine, without the synchros. I got all the bearings and seals in a kit, for about $130 I think. Its not that hard with a FSM, but take your time. Count on some down time while you order shims too, because the shims in it most likely will not be correct.
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you guys have a part number for the kit?

nissan here is saying that there isn't a kit.
Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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yehh it might be your tranny time
Old Aug 1, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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get another tranny i got a 00 tranny wiith 13k on it for 650 shipped ,when that goes all put a 6 speed in .
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hey guys, what is the gage tool you use to measure load on the bearing to place correct shims?
My tranny is down and bearings and seals coming in today from Dave B. Hopefully thats all I need.

Thanks
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look in the FSM. it shows everything needed.
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