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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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While I got my trany out, what should I look at?

I believe the throw out bearing is going out. The tranny shop swapped in a rebuilt tranny and stole my NEW trow out bearing, lever and clutch that I slaved to put in there myself.

Anyway. While I got the tranny out, what are some things to be checking?

Is a lighter flywheel worth putting in a vg? If so, does anyone have a used one?
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by therealgoon9
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Is a lighter flywheel worth putting in a vg? If so, does anyone have a used one?
i have a new one
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by therealgoon9
I believe the throw out bearing is going out. The tranny shop swapped in a rebuilt tranny and stole my NEW trow out bearing, lever and clutch that I slaved to put in there myself.
WOW, that should be one of the brain teasers on car talk man. did you just remove the tranny that the shop previously installed or something? anyway, it's probably your input shaft bearing making the noise and not the release bearing. is it making noise when clutch is engaged and then go away when you push down on the pedal? if so i'd worry about that stuff before thinking about upgrading your flywheel. replacing the front input shaft bearing isn't super difficult once the tranny is off the car and on a work bench. btw: you should go back to the shop and ask them why they jacked your new clutch!
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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WOW, that should be one of the brain teasers on car talk man. did you just remove the tranny that the shop previously installed or something? anyway, it's probably your input shaft bearing making the noise and not the release bearing. is it making noise when clutch is engaged and then go away when you push down on the pedal? if so i'd worry about that stuff before thinking about upgrading your flywheel. replacing the front input shaft bearing isn't super difficult once the tranny is off the car and on a work bench. btw: you should go back to the shop and ask them why they jacked your new clutch!
When I put my car in the shop, I demanded to leave the clutch, and use the new fork and bearing. I just got dropped the tranny a minute ago. The bearing is shot and the clutch is wore impressivly for less than 15,000 miles.

Is it really intimidating to break the tranny? I've just have never done that before.
I know the difference betwean a throw out bearing noise, vs. an input, I'm sure it's good, i'll check anyway when the rain stops.

I did go back to the tranny shop when I found out what they did. They wouldn't do anything but be sorry.

I'm looking to upgraded the flywheel well, because it's now or never. I don't wanna take it all apart for a longtime.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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get new flywheel, and clutch, and also check your input shaft bearing, and your rear main seal for leakage. i see you wanna do the lightweight flywheel that sounds good i wish i woulda done it in mine
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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get new flywheel, and clutch, and also check your input shaft bearing, and your rear main seal for leakage. i see you wanna do the lightweight flywheel that sounds good i wish i woulda done it in mine
I'm still a lil new with trannies. So deal with me a little.

What exactly is the real main seal? I noticed tranny fluid seaping some where. Not much.

is there some way to test the input bearing other than wiggling for play? It turns fine with out any restriction.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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your post is kind of messed up.

please clarify:

1) your manual tranny was messed up
2) you paid a shop to put in a new (rebuilt) tranny
[here is where I get lost...]
3) when the tranny shop did this they put in a USED throw out bearing and clutch?
4) you never got an invoice and receipt from the tranny shop?
5) you took out the rebuilt tranny?
6) now you want to put in a fidanza, TO bearing and new clutch?

Since you went back, I suppose you either didn't have a receipt, the warranty expired or they didn't give you any kind of warranty. I thought most rebuilt trannies have some kind of warranty, but I guess it depends on the shop. Sounds like they won't stand behind their work.

If you have "tranny fluid" (gear oil) leaking somewhere, it is likely leaking from the axle seals. If you have oil leaking, it is likely from the front or main seal.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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your post is kind of messed up.

please clarify:

1) your manual tranny was messed up

no tranny went bad, replaced tranny with a rebuilt one

2) you paid a shop to put in a new (rebuilt) tranny

they installed a rebuilt tranny they provided

[here is where I get lost...]

3) when the tranny shop did this they put in a USED throw out bearing and clutch?
Yes they did, i specifally told them ther were new, DO NOT REPLACE. They said they won't warranty the clutch


4) you never got an invoice and receipt from the tranny shop?Yes I did

5) you took out the rebuilt tranny?yes

6) now you want to put in a fidanza, TO bearing and new clutch?Yes

Since you went back, I suppose you either didn't have a receipt, the warranty expired or they didn't give you any kind of warranty. I thought most rebuilt trannies have some kind of warranty, but I guess it depends on the shop. Sounds like they won't stand behind their work.

No, Cottman can burn...

If you have "tranny fluid" (gear oil) leaking somewhere, it is likely leaking from the axle seals. If you have oil leaking, it is likely from the front or main seal.

Makes sense
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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Is it really intimidating to break the tranny? I've just have never done that before.
unless you tear apart your shafts, then you basically just need to keep track of about 10-15 small parts and make sure it's put together correctly. you can remove both shafts, replace seals and bearings without messing with the couple other mechanisms in there (reverse lever and return spring assembly). my first time, i didn't know this and disassembled almost everything but still wasn't too hard to get it all back together. if you decide to do it, here's a quick guide off the top of the head.

1-remove 2 check ball and spring nuts on case (1 spring and ball inside each hole)
2-remove nut holding your reverse gear rod in place via triangle thing inside the box.
3-remove plastic position switch cylinder from case by twisting and pulling, while your at it, pull out the little plastic switch thing underneath.
4-remove all bolts securing case to bell house
5-take a pry bar and partially seperate the case from the housing. stick the bar in there to keep it partially cracked.
6-pull case straight up (might have to wiggle it a little)
remove 2 snap rings holding the 2 of your forks in place
7-use a nail and hammer out the retaining pin holding the 3rd fork to its rod
8-put your tranny in 4th gear, pull out reverse sprocket, rod and triangle thing (as 1 piece)
9-grab both gearshafts and pull upwards sliding the forks off the rods. it take some work and patience. getting them installed is a bit tougher. you'll want to keep your 3 shift rods in place or else you have to deal with about 6 more check ***** and pins that go into the base of 1 or 2 of the shift rods.


in the end, make sure it's in neutral when you put the case back on and don't shift gears until the 2 check ***** and springs are bolted into the case or else it will get stuck in 2 gears at once and you will have to tear it down to manually put it in neutral again. anyway, if you decide to crack it open and get stuck, i'll help you out. whatever you do, just don't send it across the country via UPS or it will get lost
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Thats doesn't sound too bad. I'm just going to have to weigh out how neccesary it's going to be to open it.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by therealgoon9
I believe the throw out bearing is going out. The tranny shop swapped in a rebuilt tranny and stole my NEW trow out bearing, lever and clutch that I slaved to put in there myself.

Anyway. While I got the tranny out, what are some things to be checking?

Is a lighter flywheel worth putting in a vg? If so, does anyone have a used one?

The flywheel is a great mod, considering the GAS MILEAGE implications alone, there's no way you can lose. Replace the rear main seal, if they didn't do it before.

While the tranny is out, check your mounts, replace the steering boots if they're broken. Replace the spring on the clutch fork , the boot on the clutch fork, and the little boot by the shifter linkage.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by blackandwhite
The flywheel is a great mod, considering the GAS MILEAGE implications alone, there's no way you can lose. Replace the rear main seal, if they didn't do it before.

While the tranny is out, check your mounts, replace the steering boots if they're broken. Replace the spring on the clutch fork , the boot on the clutch fork, and the little boot by the shifter linkage.
sweet, I'll save gas. That'll slowly pay for it's self. Good shopping list. I wonder if internetautomart can get all that.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:26 AM
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rear main seal: check
Mounts: check
steering boots: check
spring on clutch fork :
boot on clutch fork :
little boot by the shifter linkage. :
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