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View Poll Results: Should I race a '91 lude for a $100?
Race him, you will win!
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No, run away, he'll kick your butt!
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Put metal shavings and glue sticks in his gas tank!
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Would you bet $100 to race this guy????

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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 11:13 AM
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A kid in town has a 1991 Prelude, don't know if it's the Si or 2.0 because it has a "Type R" badge on it. He works at a local honda tuning shop and claims that a friend looked up the time on the net for him and that his car will run a 14.1 1/4 mile. He's 5spd and only has an intake. He asked what my car ran and I told him I did 15 flat my first time at the track and he laughed in my face. So, does this guy deserve to get a chance at $100? Or would he eat me for lunch? My specs are in my sig.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 11:23 AM
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a $100 is $100... or yet it's also a $100 towards a possible mod too... hmmmmmm.....
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 11:25 AM
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Ah what Prelude w/ just an intake and oem motor is gonna run 14.1 in the 1/4 mile??

I would search the net, find out what a stock Prelude runs in the 1/4 mile and make a judgement from there.

It's obivous he hasn't even run the 1/4 yet. You have more experience in that area. Experience is gonna make a pretty big difference here.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Ah what Prelude w/ just an intake and oem motor is gonna run 14.1 in the 1/4 mile??
Do we know he has the oem motor? You know how much Honda guys love to do swaps!
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by bmxsteve
A kid in town has a 1991 Prelude, don't know if it's the Si or 2.0 because it has a "Type R" badge on it. He works at a local honda tuning shop and claims that a friend looked up the time on the net for him and that his car will run a 14.1 1/4 mile. He's 5spd and only has an intake. He asked what my car ran and I told him I did 15 flat my first time at the track and he laughed in my face. So, does this guy deserve to get a chance at $100? Or would he eat me for lunch? My specs are in my sig.
It's your money but there's no way a 1991 prelude with an intake only can run 14.1 1/4 mile. The 1991 prelude Si makes 140hp and 135TQ and weights ~2700lbs. This guy doesn't have a chance unless he's got nos.

If you can afford it I say race him and take his money.

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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 11:41 AM
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This is an oem engine, Im pretty sure, I'll double check though. He claims it's VTEC, but VTEC didnt come out until '92 in the lude. I think he's just uninformed.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 11:46 AM
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Take his money

I think you could walk this guy.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 12:01 PM
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they changed the body style in 92, but the H22A VTEC engine wasnt available until the 93 model year. anyhow, a 91 prelude SI is good for a low 16 second run, maybe a high 15 in hes really really skilled. he doesnt have a chance unless he's got some major work or a baby bottle...
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 12:09 PM
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they changed the body style in 92, but the H22A VTEC engine wasnt available until the 93 model year. anyhow, a 91 prelude SI is good for a low 16 second run, maybe a high 15 in hes really really skilled. he doesnt have a chance unless he's got some major work or a baby bottle...
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 02:33 PM
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consider yourself 100 richer is all I can say. The 91's are slow as heck. Notice that you said he looked up the speed on the internet. Needs nos to run 14.1. If he is running that with a stock motor and intake I need one of those cars.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 02:37 PM
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I agree. take his money.

Unless hes lying, you'll beat him if you know how to drive your car.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 02:46 PM
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it's a 91 honda... I think if he could afford to really mod it then he would get something newer. Plus he sounds like he really knows what he is talking about when he has somebody else look up times on the net for him as a benchmark of "his" performance.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:16 PM
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decide what to do with the 100 yet?
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:24 PM
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91 PRELUDE

THOSE THINGS ARE SLOW I RACED 2 PRELUDES. 1 WAS A 90-91 MODEL WITH INTAKE AND EXHAUST THE FUNNIEST THING WAS THAT THE KID HAD A SHIFT LIGHT AND THE LIGHT WAS LIGHTING AT LIKE 3000 RPMS. I MADE HIM LEAVE CAUSE I SPANKED HIM BAD ANYWERE BETWEEN 5-6 CAR LENGHTS AND I MISSED A GEAR. THE OTHER PRELUDE THAT I RACED WAS A 94 MODEL AND THIS KID HAD INTAKE, EXHAUST, HEADERS, AND HE GUTED THE CATT. I RACED HIM ON THE RT 21 IN NEWARK. I LEFT HIM 3-4 CARS UP TILL 90MPH THEN I COULD NOT SEE HIM AFTER THAT. THE ONLY MODS I HAVE IS A INTAKE AND ALL IT IS, IS A FILTER WITH A ADAPTER.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:54 PM
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RT 21!! i love McCarter Highway! i race there all the time, especially once you get past Seton hall and NJPAC, I maxxed out my max there. and its nice and curvey and hilly. one thing though, just an afterthought, when i was speeding away i touched my brakes and the car felt as if it was going to lose control. why is that? (braking and suspension are bone stock)
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 04:13 PM
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BEWARE

Those things only have 140hp engine. Plus, if its OEM motor, it doesn't have VTEC, unless he was lying. But he could mean OEM as a stock motor which he swapped from a new Prelude to the older one he has. If he really have the VTEC Prelude motor in that small car, with just an intake, it is possible to run low 14s.

Even the older 2.0L VTEC has 170hp, it doesn't seem much, but with a decent filter and a removed CAT, it is possible to add 13hp.

That car only weighs a little over 2100lb btw.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 05:42 PM
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hes gotta be lying. No one is stupid enough to just give away a hundred bucks like that. Some guy in a civic wanted to race me for money told me he ran a 16.1. I told him ur gonna lose. I didnt trust him. His girlfriend comes up to me says "dont race him hes got some sort of engine swap and nitrous." I find out later hes got an si engine worked and a decent shot. Those honda guys are slimy.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 06:13 PM
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RT 21!! i love McCarter Highway! i race there all the time, especially once you get past Seton hall and NJPAC, I maxxed out my max there. and its nice and curvey and hilly. one thing though, just an afterthought, when i was speeding away i touched my brakes and the car felt as if it was going to lose control. why is that? (braking and suspension are bone stock)
i race there alot too gotta be carful on the turns a few weeks ago this jetta hit another car comming out the first corner.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 06:40 PM
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steve, is this some idiot from street sports? i dunno if you can trust anyone from up there. i'd be willing to bet that he doesn't run 14's.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 07:22 PM
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Here sometimes I found on the net
1988 Honda Prelude Si 4WS 9.1 17.1
1992 Honda Prelude Si 4WS 7.8 15.9
1994 Honda Prelude VTEC 7.2 15.1
1995 Honda Prelude VTEC 6.7 15.1
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 08:23 PM
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i watched a older 5spd prelude run at the track.
all i could see were rims, RPM gauge on dash, and a tip.

He ran a 19.1
HAHAHAHA

I laughed

Race him
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 09:03 PM
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91 prelude? is that 2 gen before this new one? if it is.. burn him. wat u waitting for? good luck
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 09:03 PM
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91 prelude? is that 2 gen before this new one? if it is.. burn him. wat u waitting for?
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 10:10 PM
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DAMN This is a No Contest....

Steve, you would smoke the hell out of this guy. I would probably take him up on this offer w/ my 90 Max. & you have a 95 5sp w/ intake as well as y pipes. Your a fool if you don't take him up on his offer. Go for it big man.....put the money towards headers.
Old Jul 6, 2001 | 12:24 PM
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so...did yah?

did you race the guy in the prelude?? i wanna know what happened...
Old Jul 6, 2001 | 01:52 PM
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Re: so...did yah?

Originally posted by Hatchoo0
did you race the guy in the prelude?? i wanna know what happened...

Yeah, what happened?
Old Jul 6, 2001 | 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by 00 black max
hes gotta be lying. No one is stupid enough to just give away a hundred bucks like that. Some guy in a civic wanted to race me for money told me he ran a 16.1. I told him ur gonna lose. I didnt trust him. His girlfriend comes up to me says "dont race him hes got some sort of engine swap and nitrous." I find out later hes got an si engine worked and a decent shot. Those honda guys are slimy.
So, did you end up racing him?
Old Jul 6, 2001 | 03:57 PM
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don't mess with people that work at tuner shops.. you'll get jacked..
Old Jul 6, 2001 | 06:25 PM
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thats freaking horse shiet, no way a 1991 prelude si or 2.0 (whatver it is, as long its oem) is going to run 14.1 with just a freaking intake. how do i know this? because i've seen some 2000 prelude type sh's run that same time with a 75 shot of nos. and those suckers are 200 hp so if his intake gives him that much power, where the hell can i get one? so in other words, race that foo, beat his ***, take his dam money, and take his g/f out to dinner, and buy yourself some mods...the end!
Old Jul 6, 2001 | 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by nodoubt711
thats freaking horse shiet, no way a 1991 prelude si or 2.0 (whatver it is, as long its oem) is going to run 14.1 with just a freaking intake. how do i know this? because i've seen some 2000 prelude type sh's run that same time with a 75 shot of nos. and those suckers are 200 hp so if his intake gives him that much power, where the hell can i get one? so in other words, race that foo, beat his ***, take his dam money, and take his g/f out to dinner, and buy yourself some mods...the end!

he says it's stock.. but so does everyone else that has hella mods in their cars. whatif he dropped his compression ratio, and got boost, hella boost? and reprogramed his ecu, nos, better gear ratios and all that?? unever know.. or what if he raised his compression,(it'll look like he hasnt' done nething onthe outside) port and polished everything he can on the inside? if i did that much to the car u bet i'll tell u it's stock, mainly because i don't want things stolen.
Old Jul 7, 2001 | 07:33 AM
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If he says his car is stock tell him its a stock race so if he beats you tell him to pop the hood if he got mods then you take his money and beat his a$$ for lying.(check for nitrous)
Old Jul 7, 2001 | 09:57 AM
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My 2 cents worth. I have a friend who owns a 91 prelude
also. On the outset his engine looked stock but he actually
modified the engine. He bored out the engine to incorporate
larger pistons, titanium springs, and etc. He also added a
NOS bottle stuck in the spare tire location so everything
looked stocked. He smoked my max with no problems. Luckily
for me we are friends.

He might be a wolf in a sheeps skin. My recommendation is
never race against someone unless you know who you are
taking on. "Sun-tzu: The Arts of War" know your enemy thus
know yourself. I would pass myself until I know every-
thing about the guy. Good luck!!

mike
Old Jul 9, 2001 | 12:10 AM
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or why not, best two out of three? and the races can be spaced out, so if you lose, then time to mod.. but that'll cost alot more tahn 100bux.
Old Jul 10, 2001 | 06:09 AM
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I knew a chick with a 95 'lude running a 80 shot of nitrous and an intake. Her best effort was a 14.6. There is NO WAY this idiot is running a 14.1. Maybe if his buddy straps a rocket on the back deck...
Old Jul 10, 2001 | 05:27 PM
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0-60 1/4
1988 Honda Prelude 2.0 Si 4ws 9.3 16.8
1988 Honda Prelude Si 4WS 9.1 17.1
1992 Honda Prelude Si 4WS 7.8 15.9
1994 Honda Prelude VTEC 7.2 15.1
1995 Honda Prelude VTEC 6.7 15.1
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