ok i'm thinking about getting a short throw shifter and as far as i know theres only 2 companies that make them for our car, pace-setter and someone else. so which brand is better and can u guys tell me how hard the install is? thanks a bunch

 

im interested too, im in the market for one also.

 

anyone anyone bueller...bueller.......

 

Any info on the best Short Shifter for a 2000 Max?

 

come on guys, i know some of you have them! i just want and opinion.....

 

Ha I guess I'll respond. I don't have one but just from reading on here I know that Stillen makes one and there's an SMC STS. I know the SMC is adjustable too. So that's probably the one I'd choose.
Try a search for SMC STS or stillen sts.

 

thank you

 

Options: (1) Stillen, (2) SMC, (3) Pacesetter, in order of decreasing cost.

SMC looks almost identical to SMC and some say they are the exactly the same. SMC may include some extra pieces of hardware, like a shifter-to-linkage bolt/washers/nut.

SMC-Pacesetter is adjustable, in case you want less of a decrease in throw (why?). Otherwise, the stillen and the SMC-Pacesetter throw is about the same. The Stillen, however, is a taller shifter, more like stock which makes it easier to shift, but it is long. SMC-Pacesetter set to near max is somewhat hard to shift, especially into first, but it sits at a good height, and with REdline Tranny fluid is pretty decent.

Install difficulty depends on the age of your car and how hard it is to remove old rusty bolts. You'll want to unbolt at least the front bolts of your catalytic convertor, and ideally remove the CAT in its entirety.

Performance wise, you may benefit from faster shifts, but more importantly, you will have more fun shifting.

Cost: modest, Install: moderate, Benefit: high
GO FOR IT!!!

 

i have an auto, i have no idea

 

How much does installation run on a 4th gen??

 

For a pro, it should take approximately one hour, which amts to $45-65, depending on where you go.

 

not bad...

 

I didn't realize that.

 

I just got the pacesetter for $57 new and that is a lot cheaper than the other two, which run for like $200+ . Haven't installed yet though.

 

Where did you get it for $57 new? At this price I might as well add the STS to my current project.

 

At a local motorsport shop(Versus). I got two, my friend wanted one too.

 

Did you get that from NOPI? I ordered a while ago but they just up and cancelled a week and a half later. Carparts has the Pacesetter for $70 shipped after the 10% coupon. Greg has the SMC for $120 shipped. And Summit Racing has the Pacesetter for around $100. Basically, you can get it at a lot of places for relatively cheap.

$57 is definitely bargain basement if you can get it for that price--throw in another $55 for labor and call yourself fortunate. In a lot of .Org member's minds, this can definitely rank up there amongst favorite mods--definitely was for me...

 

or you can install it yourself and save 55 buck.