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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 05:39 AM
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a decently fast atlima se-r

hey guys i have a buddy of mine that has a 2006 se-r and him and i have been doing some work to it. well he went to the track yesterday and posted up some good numbers, his mods are CAI, kinnetix IM, cattman ypipe, custom catback, 50 wet shot of spray, and d2 coil overs. his best time on motor was a 14.2 at 98mph. and his best time one spray was 13.20 at 107.68 with a 2.0 60ft. i was pretty impressed. and also he has an auto. just thought i'd let you guys know of another 13 sec vq out there.
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Not bad at all. The fact that he's an auto makes it even sweeter.
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Originally Posted by xlcrew
hey guys i have a buddy of mine that has a 2006 se-r and him and i have been doing some work to it. well he went to the track yesterday and posted up some good numbers, his mods are CAI, kinnetix IM, cattman ypipe, custom catback, 50 wet shot of spray, and d2 coil overs. his best time on motor was a 14.2 at 98mph. and his best time one spray was 13.20 at 107.68 with a 2.0 60ft. i was pretty impressed. and also he has an auto. just thought i'd let you guys know of another 13 sec vq out there.
Very Nice Times! With Drag Radials he could run in the high 12's. The drags should bring his 60' times between 1.84 to 1.92 seconds guaranteed with him trapping already at 107.68.
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good times any plans for a 75shot
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yeah he's going to upgrade his fuel pump and he's going to hook up a safc 2 to tune it. so he should be in the 12's pretty quick.
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great times considering the im and y are pretty useless mods on a 3.5!
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great times considering the im and y are pretty useless mods on a 3.5!
My thoughts exactly...if he would get some headers, tune it, and up the shot to a 75...I think he should see low to mid 12's
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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they gain about 10 whp from the ypipe...
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Considering their superior gearing to the 4AT 5.5 gens, it be nice to see what it would do with the same mods.

Anyone ever see the receipt of the weight of one?
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great times considering the im and y are pretty useless mods on a 3.5!
i wouldn't really say that they are useless. he gained 25 whp with those two mods on the dyno, on days where the weather was about the same. he weighed the car at the track and it came to 35xx with him in it.
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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That's weird...I'd say his motor runs are rather bad for his mods.
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i wouldn't really say that they are useless. he gained 25 whp with those two mods on the dyno, on days where the weather was about the same. .
I gained 20 w/ POP charger & 17º BTDC.
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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yea I talked to Sean yesterday and that car sounds NICeeeee!!!
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interesting, are the precats in the exhaust manifolds like every other 3.5? i had a cattman y and dyno'd 218/whp/228/tq but i also has a wai....

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i wouldn't really say that they are useless. he gained 25 whp with those two mods on the dyno, on days where the weather was about the same. he weighed the car at the track and it came to 35xx with him in it.
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he made 218 before the ypipe and IM, and after we installed those two things he went back to the dyno and put down 248. i think they did ok with gaining power, but that's just me.
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he made 218 before the ypipe and IM, and after we installed those two things he went back to the dyno and put down 248. i think they did ok with gaining power, but that's just me.
You wouldn't happen to have the DRF's with that statement would you? At least a power curve. That ties the highest whp I've seen on an FWDVQ35 NA/AT.
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of course not, cause if he did then the his posts would match. 1st he gained 25hp but later he made 30hp. could the owner of the car please step in

wouldn't really say that they are useless. he gained 25 whp with those two mods on the dyno, on days where the weather was about the same. he weighed the car at the track and it came to 35xx with him in it.
he made 218 before the ypipe and IM, and after we installed those two things he went back to the dyno and put down 248. i think they did ok with gaining power, but that's just me.

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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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sorry guys i hit the worng key, he put down 242 on his last dyno, i will try to get the dyno sheets sometime this week.
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Those are still pretty impressive times considering it is auto. The times on the bottle with slciks should be in the high 12's which is pretty impressive. considering he ran a 14.2@98 on streets off the bottle is pretty good too. With a set of slicks/DR's im sure he is capable of some high 13's. IMO I think he would have been better off with the SSIM over the kinetix though.
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Originally Posted by 96blkonblkse
Those are still pretty impressive times considering it is auto. The times on the bottle with slciks should be in the high 12's which is pretty impressive. considering he ran a 14.2@98 on streets off the bottle is pretty good too. With a set of slicks/DR's im sure he is capable of some high 13's. IMO I think he would have been better off with the SSIM over the kinetix though.


he has future plans of building up the motor and boosting it so i think that the kinetix will definitly be worth it then and extend the rev limit.
Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 96blkonblkse
Those are still pretty impressive times considering it is auto.
Not really on the NA side considering the gear ratios and the power (242 @wheels).

Many members on here are in the upper 13's w/ less power and worse gear ratios.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Not really on the NA side considering the gear ratios and the power (242 @wheels).

Many members on here are in the upper 13's w/ less power and worse gear ratios.
Yeah thinking about what you said, its not really. The SER uses the 5AT..which i will presume has the same gearing as the 6th gen 5AT. Considering there are lots some 5.5gen 4AT's in the 13's with bolt ons.

In my opinion i would have done the SSIM to the stock manifold and directed the funds from the kintex to the turbo/build the motor. From what ive seen the kinetix manifold, although looks nice, the gains..im not too sure.

Perhaps altitude owns the altimas ET MPH?

High Altitude FTL?
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Where does it state what track he was at, i.e. what was the elevation?
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the track was in noble, ok. elevation don't know
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I was stating that perhaps he was at a high elevation track. It was never posted, which is why i suspect his na times seem kinda crappy.
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Originally Posted by 96blkonblkse
Those are still pretty impressive times considering it is auto. The times on the bottle with slciks should be in the high 12's which is pretty impressive. considering he ran a 14.2@98 on streets off the bottle is pretty good too. With a set of slicks/DR's im sure he is capable of some high 13's. IMO I think he would have been better off with the SSIM over the kinetix though.
accaully a 14.2 isnt that amazing.....my 2005 altima with a intake and exhaust ran 14.6 on crappy tires....soo with a bottle he shud be at low 13's...and on dr's in high 12's...with the mods he has.
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Originally Posted by xlcrew
hey guys i have a buddy of mine that has a 2006 se-r and him and i have been doing some work to it. well he went to the track yesterday and posted up some good numbers, his mods are CAI, kinnetix IM, cattman ypipe, custom catback, 50 wet shot of spray, and d2 coil overs. his best time on motor was a 14.2 at 98mph. and his best time one spray was 13.20 at 107.68 with a 2.0 60ft. i was pretty impressed. and also he has an auto. just thought i'd let you guys know of another 13 sec vq out there.
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accaully a 14.2 isnt that amazing.....my 2005 altima with a intake and exhaust ran 14.6 on crappy tires....soo with a bottle he shud be at low 13's...and on dr's in high 12's...with the mods he has.
14.2 auto isn't bad but with the amount of mods I agree should have been better. He did run a 13.2 with the nitrous though?
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14.2 auto isn't bad but with the amount of mods I agree should have been better. He did run a 13.2 with the nitrous though?
14.2 isnt that bad to me I guess considering how ****ty the track is. Thats not an excuse though the car should run better for the mods that it has but the nitrous def fixes that. I was pretty happy with the 13.2 on the 50shot. Hopefully Cattman will release his headers for these cars soon and I'll add the cams and then go get it tuned on the 100shot and see where it stands then.
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great times considering the im and y are pretty useless mods on a 3.5!
i dont see where youre making this 'assumption'.. i mean i agree the y doesnt really unleash a whole lot of power.. but then again.. the stock intake manifold doesnt really allow the motor to fullfill its full potential down low.. thats where the kinetix im comes in and perfects the tuning peaks of the intake.. now dont get me wrong i dont agree with the price they are selling them for right now.. but then again.. when is a new product reasonably priced.. they have to make up for r&d.. but in no way is it a useless mod.. and i would definately rather have a kinetix style manifold as opposed to the SSIM (not saying that the SSIM is a bad mod).. with that said.. dont bash something you dont know about.. unless you have data to back it up..

and really 20 hp with a pop charger and 17 btdc?? Really? tuning is what got you those numbers.. if you even made that much (doubtful).. and tuning is only a perfection of what youve bolted on.. so if all you have is a pop charger and a tune.. i doubt these numbers are correct

you guys are trying to nit pick this kid to death.. with preferred setups, gear ratios etc.. dont doubt that he can drive his car.. so before that gets brought up ill resolve it.. with the mods he has his car 'was' kind of slow at the track.. but then again the title of the thread wasnt a 'amazingly' fast se-r.. (not as an excuse) but his suspension wasnt everything it should have been.. now that the problem is fixed he has improved his 60 foot from a 2.4 to a 2 flat.. to each his own on their choice of mods.. but dont turn his setup into something its not.. hes made a lot of ground with the mods hes done and before its all said and done ill gaurantee he'll have one of the fastest altimas around.. oh and btw unless you have the bolt ons 'on' your car youre not allowed to put them in your sig
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intake manifold doesnt really allow the motor to fullfill its full potential down low..
What data do you have to back this up? The A33B VIAS is designed to boost down low power, and yes, I do have the data to prove this.



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and really 20 hp with a pop charger and 17 btdc?? Really? tuning is what got you those numbers.. if you even made that much (doubtful).. and tuning is only a perfection of what youve bolted on.. so if all you have is a pop charger and a tune.. i doubt these numbers are correct
I had no tuning device at the time. I do agree, it's a phenomenal gain, but it is what it is. I dyno'd 211 w/ stock airbox and CMG1 Headers. Dyno'd again on another date @ 233 w/ JWT POP and 17º Consult BTDC advance as the only additions. I now have 242 with a lot more area under the curve compared to my 233 run, and that, IMO, is due to everything else I've added since then.




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you guys are trying to nit pick this kid to death..
Ok, and you're not nit picking on me or my set-up?
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im not gonna ***** this mans thread up trying to prove nothing.. nit pick you? i forgot that you started this thread about your car? exactly my point.. you had headers on before you did the adjusted timing.. the proof is on this mans dyno sheet.. once he gets off of working two weeks straight im sure he will find the time to post it.. again.. how would would you 'know' that the stock IM is designed to boost low end power? you know what dont answer that.. because i already know the answer.. you dont, you assume.. when you have a decent argument.. you can pm me
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Originally Posted by 97Maximus
when you have a decent argument.. you can pm me
This man started a thread on a maxima board about an Altima. Reason being, it has the same engine. So I will continue to post in this thread.

From the FSM:



From the Dyno:

Lower value : No VIAS connected
Higher value: VIAS functioning correctly

Whatever anyones opinion of 'up high 'midrange' 'down low' is, leaves this subjective.

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haha.. again your assuming.. dude give it up.. go research the definition/reason for vias.. its comparing the two runner lengths to each other.. justifying the reason for two different chambers.. again.. im gonna ask you politely.. quit whoring this mans thread up with off topic argument.. if you want me to school you on intake design pm me

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go research the definition/reason for vias.. its comparing the two runner lengths to each other.. justifying the reason for two different chambers..
Are you suggesting that the A33B FWD IM is a true dual runner set-up?

First and foremost, yes, the general belief of VIAS is better top end. If this were referring to a J3x series in the H/A line-up, then, yes, I would agree, their VIAS is a fantastic design, and sticks to the true definition/purpose of VIAS. But this is a Maxima forum, and that’s what I’m trying to point out.
  • A33B VIAS is not a true dual runner set-up
  • In all that is VQ, only the Pathy IM is a true dual runner set-up
  • IMO, that is, or should be considered the true meaning of VIAS, so it looks like we might agree there.
  • When Nissan wanted more high(in our case) RPM power, they resorted to altering CVTC map and going w/ a non VIAS IM set-up. (That IS an assumption on my part, but a valid theory I think)

    With that said, have you noticed that most Z/G’s out there put out quite a bit more hp, but not as much torque as us FWDVQ counterparts?

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again.. im gonna ask you politely.. quit whoring this mans thread up with off topic argument..
I have permission.

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but in no way is it a useless mod.. and i would definately rather have a kinetix style manifold
Kinetix IM has been proven by 1 member on here, and he got rid of it. He’s a respectable member with at least the 2nd highest fwhp and similar ET, so I trust his knowledge/judgment/decision.

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if you want me to school you on intake design pm me
Keep in mind, this is a Maxima forum, so keep it VQ related.

School me, I want to know what I’ve missed

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i dyno 218whp/228tq with a cattman y and a WAI on my 6spd. i have yet to see a kenteix dyno that shows gains. I'll spend my 700 else where. I need to redyno with HS headers and cattman c/b, but i should be easy 240WHP...

edit..dont mess with NmexMAX i never seen a dyno ***** like him and i love it..lol

Originally Posted by 97Maximus
i dont see where youre making this 'assumption'.. i mean i agree the y doesnt really unleash a whole lot of power.. but then again.. the stock intake manifold doesnt really allow the motor to fullfill its full potential down low.. thats where the kinetix im comes in and perfects the tuning peaks of the intake..

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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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nice runs but i would expect high 13's w/ your mod. I ran agains a bone stock 06 altima yesterday and he ran 14.2 w/ 2.1 60's.
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