Im just wondering why you guys are doing custom CAI's for your superchargers, cool air doesnt hurt, but with a supercharger its all about how fast you get the air to the blower.

 

It's how much dense air you can get into the heads. Cooler air = denser air. Plus the supercharger will heat the air as it compresses it.

 

the location of the pancake filter on the stock SC setup is right behind the headlight where there is not alot of air flow in the first place.. and the fact that only the top of the filter really gets any good air.

also the operating air temp going thru the blower on the max is around 120° at idle. that's as high as i got it when i was driving driving really hard with when i was NA.

so with the cold air filter taking air from outside the fender lining.. it will help a little. but what would help the most is an Air to Air aftercooler ...

 

Lets not forget that that pancake filter is small. I doubt it even is rated to flow the CFM that a "stock" pulley SC max needs. At 6psi that would be ~404cfm, at 10 psi it would be ~484cfm. It takes a big cone fliter to flow those numbers. K&N is the only company that can tell you the CFM rating of their filters. My SC CAI filter is a jumbo, 8"L x 5"D, it can flow ~700cfm, enough for a 3.5L @ 14psi ~652cfm

 

yes, that or an nice big spearco intercooler. That is included in the fmax kit i ordered off of a groupbuy on hondatech.com. Jackson racing makes liquid intercoolers that are pretty small, maybe they could be adapted to a max somehow since they are made for superchargers ?

 

it's because by the time you get up to the s/c you have run out of things to do

 

do you have a cai confused ?

btw i remember seeing you at maxus. the dude drinking bottled water smoking ciggerettes in the max. What was up that day man, i expected more from an S/C'ed max.

 

no cai for me.. yet.

what a way to be remembered

slipping stock clutch and s/c belt made for a mediocre showing at maxus... the times have come down since then.

 

Nice. Did you get a new clutch ?

 

Water to air intercooler coming soon to my maxima along with all new piping and a smaller pulley.

 

So a 7" x 4" should do the trick for 9lbs of boost? A 3.5" flange on the pancake filter would be better but...

 

Very true.

 

ideally, you'd want to jet-hot your CAI... i used mandrel bent piping for turbos to make mine. (3.5inch radius, 7 inch long U bend cut in half) my cone is 9x5 (part number RU1785) from Martel Brothers Racing..

i was also thinking of redoing the piping.... sand blast the insides, chrome the biotch, and thermal wrap it if i dont do the intercooler..

that air to water aftercooler they have on the SI kit is pretty nice... that's another possibility,.. or just do what the AMD guys do.. solder on a ton of heat sinks! hahaha

 

Brett, that filter should be fine if its a K&N.

I went with mandrel bent 3.5" mild steel too. Cost ~$60 for a "J" bend. But you can make two CAIs with one "J" bend.

 

True, true. Although I would like a new stereo!

Jim

 

the u bend peice i got was $29.00

 

Cheston, do you have any pics to accompany your write-up of the SC CAI install? I'm a little unclear about what parts to get.

Jim

 

Yeah. no worries. i'll post em up when iget the piping. it was on back order.

i got em thru Magnumforce.com


the filter is pretty big. unless u move your fluid washer thingie, its not going to fit.. but i dumped mine cuz i have the CF hood and didnt want to dril the nozzles in it ne way....

the U bend should just be enough to have the curve into the fender wall.

 

dunno if u care much about this, but u know themz cars with the windshield washer nossles clipped onto the wiper blade arms?? that may be an option for you, and those work real nice.. i'm considering, "borrowing" them off my dad's car before we sell it..