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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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Hid fogs are are giving me the WTF runaround

ok ill try to make this short and sweet. I had hid fogs in my max and my wife got a forester so i put them in her car. So i order a H3 hid kit from Hidextra to put in mine. a little backwards but i digress. Order the kit, it comes,i install and and the lights dont match..6000k one is pure white one is blueish. So get new ones and they look correct. have those for a while and the pass side starts to not work and find the ballast was sh!eting the bed. Get a new one, hook it up and it works but that side decides to come on when it pleases.
i have my hids wired thru a relay and the ballasts are under the hood so they dont get wet from rain or anything. did some testing to see why it wasn't working all the time and it looked like a + wire was to close to a ground. Fixed that and they work. end of story... no. Now we are getting massive amounts of rain and my driver side along with the pass side decide to play games.
The relay is mounted on the dr side in where my filter is for the CAI so it sometimes can get wet.
Help me out i have looked at EVERY wire and there are no broken, corroded, touching wires or anything that looks out of place. I didn't have the relay with my other set and never had a problem.
Do we really need a relay given the ballast is a 35w and the original bulb is a 55w. Could the relay be giving me this trouble. im at the end of my rope with no more ideas. anyone have anything they may have encountered or whatever... the end
Old Mar 30, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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i dont have a relay on my hid fogs i'm pretty sure there is a relay wired in there, you may have wired a second one.

I have had HID's in a few cars now. I think in all i have purchased 5 or 6 sets in about the last 6 years. I have never once had a ballast go bad and i a still using some of my original cheap ebay ballasts, but i have had 2 bulbs go bad. The symptoms i noticed were the bulbs started taking multiple strikes to ignite then eventually no amount of striking would get them to ignite.

Just a thought
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 05:29 AM
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loose wiring...but no relay is needed, just wiring straight to Oem foglight chassis wires...That's weird that you're concerned about your ballast getting wet...most units (ballast, bulbs, igniter..if they have it) can be submerged underwater totally and still operate flawlessly....check this out!

http://www.xtralights.com/waterdemo.aspx
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 06:20 AM
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Actually a relay is needed for longevity. Can an HID kit work without it? Yes but it won't last as long as if it had a relay providing clean power from the battery and clean ground. HID ballasts draw up to 12AMPS when powering up which is more than factory wiring can handle over time.

The most likely problem is the connection between the trigger and ground wires between your factory wiring and the relay, as in the factory wires you tapped.
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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yea about it getting wet it is a water proof or resistant ballast but im **** (no homo) about all that stuff and making sure its a clean and dry area. i just relocated the relay and this time instead of grounding to the chassis i went straight to the battery with both + and - off the battery itself. we will see how it does. i wonder n3985 if it was a ground losing its connection because it used to kind of flicker so to speak bright dim bright dim and so on and then it would get bright. now it just powers on and done. i also put the relay into the factory relay holders under the hood so now unless i go in a lake its water free.
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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Guess I've been extremely lucking for the past 4 yrs...with my 8000k HID upgrade to my fogs....Here's some pics









Old Apr 4, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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does our cars come stock with Hid fogs?? when i got my car i had hids in the fogs but not sure if there stock
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by blkbat_77
does our cars come stock with Hid fogs?? when i got my car i had hids in the fogs but not sure if there stock

No and advice for the thread starter, junk the relay. Isn't necessary IMHO
and you also stated it worked fine w/o it...
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