Wobbly suspension in turns?
Wobbly suspension in turns?
I have a '96 SE and the other night, a guy in a 3rd gen pulls up and wanted to ask some questions about his suspension. He said when he's on the highway and goes around a curve or bend, the car shimmies and shakes when he hits bumps and the springs compress. Sounded to me like something was loose but he said he'd pulled the tires off and checked as many things as he could see. He said nothing looked unusual and all the bolts were tight. I don't know much about the 3rd gens, whether the suspension is the same/different on the front or not. Does this problem sound familiar to anyone. He tried to get on here but said he could't find the forums. I'll try to show him sometime so he can possibly describe this problem better.
most likely it's because the struts are shot (both front and rear)..
another common problem is that the large 2" rubber bushings on the 1/2" rear sway bar fall apart, so the rear sway bar basically doesn't even connect to the suspension. you should be able to see this pretty easily by looking at the ends of the sway bar.
the suspension on 3rd gens is waaay different than 4th gens, but the problems are usually similar.
If this car has the original struts on it still (with anything over 60k miles) I will pretty much guarantee they need replaced. most people try the "bounce test" and they'll pass, but when you're actually driving they don't work worth a damn. I bottomed my car out dozens of times going over speed bumps with the stock suspension.. then I lowered it and got new struts. never bottomed out again on a bump.
another common problem is that the large 2" rubber bushings on the 1/2" rear sway bar fall apart, so the rear sway bar basically doesn't even connect to the suspension. you should be able to see this pretty easily by looking at the ends of the sway bar.
the suspension on 3rd gens is waaay different than 4th gens, but the problems are usually similar.
If this car has the original struts on it still (with anything over 60k miles) I will pretty much guarantee they need replaced. most people try the "bounce test" and they'll pass, but when you're actually driving they don't work worth a damn. I bottomed my car out dozens of times going over speed bumps with the stock suspension.. then I lowered it and got new struts. never bottomed out again on a bump.
i need new struts
Originally posted by Matt93SE
most likely it's because the struts are shot (both front and rear)..
another common problem is that the large 2" rubber bushings on the 1/2" rear sway bar fall apart, so the rear sway bar basically doesn't even connect to the suspension. you should be able to see this pretty easily by looking at the ends of the sway bar.
the suspension on 3rd gens is waaay different than 4th gens, but the problems are usually similar.
If this car has the original struts on it still (with anything over 60k miles) I will pretty much guarantee they need replaced. most people try the "bounce test" and they'll pass, but when you're actually driving they don't work worth a damn. I bottomed my car out dozens of times going over speed bumps with the stock suspension.. then I lowered it and got new struts. never bottomed out again on a bump.
most likely it's because the struts are shot (both front and rear)..
another common problem is that the large 2" rubber bushings on the 1/2" rear sway bar fall apart, so the rear sway bar basically doesn't even connect to the suspension. you should be able to see this pretty easily by looking at the ends of the sway bar.
the suspension on 3rd gens is waaay different than 4th gens, but the problems are usually similar.
If this car has the original struts on it still (with anything over 60k miles) I will pretty much guarantee they need replaced. most people try the "bounce test" and they'll pass, but when you're actually driving they don't work worth a damn. I bottomed my car out dozens of times going over speed bumps with the stock suspension.. then I lowered it and got new struts. never bottomed out again on a bump.
if you don't do much extreme driving and simply want the car to corner better, I would recommend the Suspension Techniques sway bar kit and a strut tower brace. that will reduce the lean a lot in the corners, and help overall feel of the car.
You'll still ned to get new struts though.. I would recommend either new OEM struts, or Tokicos.
unless you want a rougher ride and to lower the car, keep with the stock springs. they're adequate for basic stuff, but a little squishy for high speed driving. if you REALLY want to make the car corner well, you'll do all the above, PLUS a set of eibach springs and some 16 or 17" wheels.. Subframe connectors are next. I'm having a set installed soon and we'll see how they work on a car with a fully modded suspension.
You'll still ned to get new struts though.. I would recommend either new OEM struts, or Tokicos.
unless you want a rougher ride and to lower the car, keep with the stock springs. they're adequate for basic stuff, but a little squishy for high speed driving. if you REALLY want to make the car corner well, you'll do all the above, PLUS a set of eibach springs and some 16 or 17" wheels.. Subframe connectors are next. I'm having a set installed soon and we'll see how they work on a car with a fully modded suspension.
Originally posted by Matt93SE
I bottomed my car out dozens of times going over speed bumps with the stock suspension.. then I lowered it and got new struts. never bottomed out again on a bump.
I bottomed my car out dozens of times going over speed bumps with the stock suspension.. then I lowered it and got new struts. never bottomed out again on a bump.
Originally posted by mykizism
i never really knew what the term bottomed out means.. what does it mean?
i never really knew what the term bottomed out means.. what does it mean?
basically it's just banging the bottom of the car on stuff. on my stock suspension, it happened so often that my oil pan only held 3.5 qts of oil. it was smashed about 1" in in places. you'd think nissan would design the frame so the oil pan wasn't the lowest thing on the car!
yes, they're similar in performance and cheaper than the Tokicos, BUT I fell the Tokicos are a better strut altogether.
And Tok struts on stock springs are by no means a harsh ride.
(FYI, Tokico makes our OEM struts. of course different valving, but they're still made by them).
And Tok struts on stock springs are by no means a harsh ride.
(FYI, Tokico makes our OEM struts. of course different valving, but they're still made by them).
Originally posted by Matt93SE
Look at your oil pan.. if it's got scratches or dents in it, then you've "bottomed out"..
basically it's just banging the bottom of the car on stuff. on my stock suspension, it happened so often that my oil pan only held 3.5 qts of oil. it was smashed about 1" in in places. you'd think nissan would design the frame so the oil pan wasn't the lowest thing on the car!
Look at your oil pan.. if it's got scratches or dents in it, then you've "bottomed out"..
basically it's just banging the bottom of the car on stuff. on my stock suspension, it happened so often that my oil pan only held 3.5 qts of oil. it was smashed about 1" in in places. you'd think nissan would design the frame so the oil pan wasn't the lowest thing on the car!
does bottoming out count when you scrape when you go over steep hills or such? because i scratch on certain driveways that are really steep
i have sprints so my car is really low
Originally posted by mykizism
does bottoming out count when you scrape when you go over steep hills or such? because i scratch on certain driveways that are really steep
i have sprints so my car is really low
does bottoming out count when you scrape when you go over steep hills or such? because i scratch on certain driveways that are really steep
i have sprints so my car is really low
Re: Wobbly suspension in turns?
Originally posted by BSwithTF
I have a '96 SE and the other night, a guy in a 3rd gen pulls up and wanted to ask some questions about his suspension. He said when he's on the highway and goes around a curve or bend, the car shimmies and shakes when he hits bumps and the springs compress. Sounded to me like something was loose but he said he'd pulled the tires off and checked as many things as he could see. He said nothing looked unusual and all the bolts were tight. I don't know much about the 3rd gens, whether the suspension is the same/different on the front or not. Does this problem sound familiar to anyone. He tried to get on here but said he could't find the forums. I'll try to show him sometime so he can possibly describe this problem better.
I have a '96 SE and the other night, a guy in a 3rd gen pulls up and wanted to ask some questions about his suspension. He said when he's on the highway and goes around a curve or bend, the car shimmies and shakes when he hits bumps and the springs compress. Sounded to me like something was loose but he said he'd pulled the tires off and checked as many things as he could see. He said nothing looked unusual and all the bolts were tight. I don't know much about the 3rd gens, whether the suspension is the same/different on the front or not. Does this problem sound familiar to anyone. He tried to get on here but said he could't find the forums. I'll try to show him sometime so he can possibly describe this problem better.
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