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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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short ram intake?

Hello. Im new to this forums. I am wondering if I should get a short ram intake for my 2003 maxima se. (automatic transmission)
anyone have advice or experience with it?

and does anyone know pricing for new or used??
Old Apr 14, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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look up the air box mod for your gen. Just do a google search something to the affect of "5th gen maxima air box mod". When it comes down to it the only real benefit of a ram is the noise factor. Unless you want to cut your fender or route some custom piping to make it a true "cold air" intake then don't bother

EDIT: made it easy on you. Heres a how-to http://forums.nicoclub.com/how-to-ma...n-t154630.html essentially you are holding the filter back. Not sure if this is the best method. Do what you want to achieve the same goal

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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 11:20 PM
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This

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When it comes down to it the only real benefit of a ram is the noise factor.
Were you thinking of hp gains or whats your main goal? A good mod for performance most people suggest is a y-pipe.

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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 12:02 AM
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I just want better noise but my friend said its a waste to get a intake for a automatic car.
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 12:07 AM
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Your friend doesn't know what he is talking about or he mis-spoke. He probably meant it is pointless to add "performance" mods to an A/T assuming they are "slow" but that too is wrong. There are numerous upgrades you can do to an A/T that make them shift faster than any human could shift in a manual. Most manufacturers are switching to modified A/T in their cars because they are simply better. No human can shift faster than a computer so therefor the "faster" time claim is no longer valid. Back in the day when the average A/T was crappy and broke down it sucked but nowadays they are so much better. The M/T is only valid for the fun factor now and the more pure driving experience it gives you. Anyways, If noise is what you are going for the go get a basic 3" length of pipe from the auto parts store, a MAF adaptor, some couplers and a cone filter and install it yourself for around $75 or so. Ebay has numerous RAM air kits as well but the filter is probably not going to be very nice. A dry-flow filter is what you want. You never have to re-oil it like you would the K&N or other oiled filters. Its really quite simple to add in a short ram air intake. The air box mod I showed you adds about the same amount of noise and its far cheaper. I would go with that and spend the money on other mods

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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 12:30 AM
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A/T's get a lot of crap. I drive an automatic and my car is fast. I've seen autos woop on 5 speeds and I've seen 5 speeds woop on autos. Alot of the manual cars have to do with how good the driver is. Personally I wanted a 5 speed but do to the fact I work in Downtown Seattle which has a lot of hills and stop n go traffic I didn't get a manual and I got auto and for the most part I love it. Anyways back on subject, if you want to get a good sound buy and exhaust or muffler. I have a megan racing muffler that cost $150 shipped and $50 to weld at a shop. It sounds really nice not too loud and its a mean sound. Ask Amerikaner he was at the last maxima meet and heard it. I'd post the video I made but I'm trying to find a program that will let me blur the Plate#.

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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 01:12 PM
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Im not sure if I want to buy a cheap ebay intake kit. I seen some thats going for less than $30. Im afraid the pipe is cheap and will crack. how would I know if a pipe can withstand the MAF?
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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weapon r is the way to go unleash the beast
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dexterity
Im not sure if I want to buy a cheap ebay intake kit. I seen some thats going for less than $30. Im afraid the pipe is cheap and will crack. how would I know if a pipe can withstand the MAF?
Withstand what? Its just airflow. The pipe can even be plastic and its fine. YOu can make you own if you want. All you would need is about 18in of 3in diamter piping. The autoparts stores should have them and you could even paint them
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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Do you know if this intake should fit on my car??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-PIPE-200...sories&vxp=mtr
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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weapon r is the way to go unleash the beast

The weapon r sounds very nice and very mean
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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Yes they will all fit. All you need to insure it has is a good METAL MAF adaptor. Plastic is fine but metal looks better IMO. The auto stores sell a metal Spectre brand that is fine. Really any kit as long as its a straight pipe will work. Take a look at you engine bay and you can probably buy lengths of pipe, a metal adaptor and a dry flow cone filter for cheap. Looking at your engine bay you might even be able to buy a straight piece in conjunction with an angled piece to keep the filter as far awya from the ehat as possible
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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What are the typical gains for an aftermarket intake for an otherwise stock 5.5 gen to begin with?
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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What are the typical gains for an aftermarket intake for an otherwise stock 5.5 gen to begin with?
I wonder too Do anyone know this??
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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I don't recall any dynos of just an intake. Rule of thumb is to expect noise, improved throttle response, and maybe 2-3 hp somewhere through the power band. That does NOT necessarily mean or translate into 2-3 peak hp, only a slight increase along the rpm band.
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Gregg
I don't recall any dynos of just an intake. Rule of thumb is to expect noise, improved throttle response, and maybe 2-3 hp somewhere through the power band. That does NOT necessarily mean or translate into 2-3 peak hp, only a slight increase along the rpm band.
Seams to me a 2-3hp gain would be lost due to higher IAT, which would retard timing and therefore loose power... not to start a huge stock vs sri argument but just my thoughts at the moment.
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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I'd have to find the threads, but I do recall someone posting under hood temps at idle and in motion.
IIRC, under hood temps while in motion were close to outside air temps.
As I further recall, this is the whole argument about how the CAI is primarily benificial at idle.
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Gregg
I'd have to find the threads, but I do recall someone posting under hood temps at idle and in motion.
IIRC, under hood temps while in motion were close to outside air temps.
As I further recall, this is the whole argument about how the CAI is primarily benificial at idle.
Im sure there are countless threads on intakes and am therefore reluctant to go posting about them, however there are questions I have that I have yet to find an answer to in older threads.

The wonderful guys at Firestone decided they had to check my air filter while I was getting a tire patched. In the process they lost one of the clips on the stock filter holder ,which I have yet to find a replacement for. Given the cost of a new airbox, I (Like the OP) am currently considering different intake options.

That being said, it seams to me that the added length (and therefore airflow resitance) of a CAI probably makes it about the same as the stock intake... any thoughts on this?

My chief argument at the moment is: When it comes to performance, is airflow or air temperature more important? I mean does a "higher flowing" SRI with higher temps make better power then a CAI that doesn't flow "as well"? Im also unsure, does a SRI really flow that much better then the stock intake?
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:30 PM
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Hybrid intake is the best, shirt RAM with velocity stack. Nmexmax posted dynos in here somewhere
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:46 PM
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anyone got pictures of their intakes on their cars?? and what intakes do you guys have?
I guess my stock intake on the 03 maxima se isnt too bad. I guess I never really gassed it super hard before. I tested it out today while in park, the sound doesnt sound bad at all.
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 01:44 AM
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If you're on a budget and don't care about engine bay appearance, try the GAB mod. All you need is a K&N drop in filter($45), and a copper coat hanger. There's lots of write ups on how to do this mod. The sound is amazing and the performance gain is noticable. While you're at it clean the MAF.
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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1) LRMAF
2) BPi stack
3) S&B Filter
4) 3.5" 45º elbow
6) SAFCII + WB
7) Supporting mods
5) Profit?


Or maybe just a GAB. 9whp seems adequate and legit.
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
1) LRMAF
2) BPi stack
3) S&B Filter
4) 3.5" 45º elbow
6) SAFCII + WB
7) Supporting mods
5) Profit?


Or maybe just a GAB. 9whp seems adequate and legit.
Does the LRMAF require the SAFCII? Is the LRMAF a whole unit, or just a larger MAF housing?

And I love the GAB except for when the filter comes loose.
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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Does the LRMAF require the SAFCII? Is the LRMAF a whole unit, or just a larger MAF housing?

And I love the GAB except for when the filter comes loose.
Drill holes in the stock box, also helps about as much as the GAB.

LRMAF is a housing that fits the stock MAF sensor inside.

WB and SAFCII are required, at minimum.
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