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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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4th gen Maxima VS. 2009 Honda Accord V6

I usually don't start threads like this, but after the untimely and tragic loss of my unrealized 98 max, i am unable to ascertain the answer to this question from behind the wheel, head to head.

A coworker at work got a 09' Accord V6 and was talking **** at the mention of maximas. He said his whip has 260 HP, and that is considerably more than 190 in our 4th gens? I think a newer max would probably rape his Honda, but a 4th gen, i dunno....

Is it a mismatch? Will the Accord smoke the 4th gen- stock and/or modded?
Old Aug 20, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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iHate Honda, just putting that out there.
IMO No facts here, With that car being 10 years older, we can determine this outcome if you tell us the trans and mods on your Maxima.
Old Aug 20, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by VincentXero86
iHate Honda, just putting that out there.
IMO No facts here, With that car being 10 years older, we can determine this outcome if you tell us the trans and mods on your Maxima.
Well, i no longer have a maxima, it was bone stock though.

What mods on a 4th gen would make this a competitive face-off?
Old Aug 20, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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Sounds like a street racing thread to me.

He would walk away from a stock 4th gen in his stock 09 V6 Accord.
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Be sure and post ETs 60's and if possible, DA's.
Old Aug 20, 2012 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by eddie982
Well, i no longer have a maxima, it was bone stock though.

What mods on a 4th gen would make this a competitive face-off?
What's the point of asking if you no longer have the car? It's a pointless argument comparing a car built between 95-99 to a much newer and technologically advanced car.
Old Aug 20, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by T_Behr904
What's the point of asking if you no longer have the car? It's a pointless argument comparing a car built between 95-99 to a much newer and technologically advanced car.
Actually, i am looking for another 4th gen at the moment.
There's no need to be overly critical.
If you bothered reading my post, i clearly expressed my doubt in comparing the two, since i have
personally never tried any performance mods, the point of asking was
to have others chime in as to whether a modded max could give the
Honda a run for it's money despite the 10 year difference.
Old Aug 20, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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Stock max would launch a bit quicker than accord but accord v6 would catch up and overtake after 120. But then maxima driver deliberately slows down signaling that race is over. Maxima wins everytime .
Old Aug 20, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Stock max would launch a bit quicker than accord but accord v6 would catch up and overtake after 120. But then maxima driver deliberately slows down signaling that race is over. Maxima wins everytime .
Yes, that what i wanted to read, lol.
The place where this face off would occur is a small straight stretch of road.
It definitely won't go as far as reaching 120mph.

So, what can be done to help the max in this race against time and a more powerful, technologically advanced foe. Pop charger, taking out the air filter, iridium plugs, and how about... high octane jet fuel
Old Aug 20, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Just swap in a FuLL Vq35 and be done with it.

or at least a 00v1
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 04:05 AM
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An older stock 4thgen won't beat a younger 09 Accord for obvious reasons. Though Maxima's have potential a stock one just won't cut it even though it's a manual. You mentioned you don't have the car anymore and you're considering buying another one, not that I'm not trying to change your mind but why not just get a 5thgen or a 5.5gen? Now that's more of a fair match up especially seeing that they are almost comparison in hp it might just come down to the driver.

You didn't mention wheather or not you plan to use it as a race car or just a daily driver but either way a newer 5thgen or 5.5gen is a better bet and you could always add a simple air intake, light weight crank pulley, BOP, spacer kit and maybe a catback and change the game entirely.

Just just a quick question. Why go through all of that to see who's car is faster

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 05:34 AM
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The Accord should win unless you have some nice upgrades or a 3.5 swap. The new Accords run about 14 even or low 14's.
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So what track is this occurring at?


Also, FTR, these are the Accords with the 3.5L. An engine that has been able to put down 270 fwhp on a DynoJet with fairly minimal mods, so I wouldn't scoff at them, especially in a near stock 4th gen.

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 08:07 AM
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Probably won't even happen on a track. Lol
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
So what track is this occurring at?


Also, FTR, these are the Accords with the 3.5L. An engine that has been able to put down 270 fwhp on a DynoJet with fairly minimal mods, so I wouldn't scoff at them, especially in a near stock 4th gen.
And he better hope dudes accord aint a stick.

But 4th gen Max power is more similar to Accord from like 2gens back (98-03)?? that have 3.0 motor.

That is more of a comparison.

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by eddie982
Yes, that what i wanted to read, lol.
The place where this face off would occur is a small straight stretch of road.
It definitely won't go as far as reaching 120mph.

So, what can be done to help the max in this race against time and a more powerful, technologically advanced foe. Pop charger, taking out the air filter, iridium plugs, and how about... high octane jet fuel
Haha game over for you by half that mph. I say by 60mph he is ahead of you for sure if your stock.

You will need to be stick, headers/ypipe, 3" exhaust at minimum to be competitive.
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eddie982
The place where this face off would occur is a small straight stretch of road.
Jeez man you're taking a big risk with the mods saying stuff like this.

Take it to the track instead.
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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The V6 model with the five-speed automatic transmission are a respectable 0-60 mph time of 7.0 seconds and a quarter mile time of 15.5 sec. - Autoguide
With that said, the 5 speed will walk a stock 4th Gen and the auto will not. I ran 15.6 in the 1/4 when my Maxima was bone stock so that should give you something to go by. It's been a while since I checked the forums but my 4th Gen was very quick for being stock. Not sure if anyone here as beaten my stock time for a stoc 4th gen auto either.
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by T_Behr904
Jeez man you're taking a big risk with the mods saying stuff like this.

Take it to the track instead.
Locked this thread once before, got some naggy PM's but I was in a good mood and reopened it but moved it. Doesn't look as if it's going anywhere productive as I originally noted.
Old Aug 22, 2012 | 06:17 AM
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 06:49 AM
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In so many words, don't play unless you've got a very, and heavily modified VQ30, NA. Also, better know what you're doing if supercharged/TC'd to play with it.

Or, do come play with a modestly modded A32B, as in VQ35 swapped.

As I said, I've seen that engine put down 270 fwhp on a Dynojet, nothing to scoff at. IIRC, 271 is what's its SAE rating is.


Honda finally put their big boy pants on and decided to go with a 3.5L, and say the heck with a slight fuel economy edge. Now they are actually respectable in the torque game too.

IMO, their marketing scheme back in the day was, OK, let's put up similar SAE HP #'s, but in a smaller engine so we can have the MPG edge. Us as a car community weren't fooled, we care about torque too, and drive ability.

This was apparent when they introduced the 2.8L V6 back in the 90's, then finally the came to compete with the 3.0L, by then other car companies were going to a 3.5L, so they said, mmk, let's go with a 3.2L. All these engines put up similar HP numbers as their 3.0L & 3.5L rivals, but as we know, torque department was suffering, and to me, who cares about MPG's.

Anyhow, I digress, point being, they're fast cars, faster than a 4th gen, and stock for stock, faster than a stock 5.5gen, 6th gen, perhaps on par with a 7th gen.
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spend about $400 and put a 75 shot on it and call it a day and talk **** to your coworker after the race ... Cheap,quick,entertaining

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Yeah this went well.
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