So I finally test drove the 6spd 2k2. I'm not sure, please help me-but I wasn't impressed at all. I've driven against one and know first hand that even an automatic can do a 14.6 1/4mile. It just didn't seem to have the PULL that I am used to in the 4th gen. Was I driving a lemon? It was a new super back SE and it only had 15miles on it. It really is scaring me into an Audi A4. Is there a secret in the shifting that I missed? I drove it like I do my 4th gen. I didn't like the clutch either the engaging point was all the way at the bottom, that seemed wierd.

 

My car feels really slow, but when I look at the speedo I'm usually doing way over what I as expecting. Maybe the engines smoothness threw ya off

 

Well, keep looking^><

 

yeah its definitely faster than it feels. though, coming from a non-modded 4th gen automatic it feels fast to me.

 

I might be getting my 6-speed tomorrow!

 

please say you're getting the same color you had and that you're gonna make it look exactly how your badass 2k-2k1 did

 

So is it the weight of the car that makes it feel no so powerful? I guess kind of camoflauge it? Maybe it was because it didn't have a greddy exhaust pulling my ear drumms out with a spoon. Mayne I'll go somewhere else to test drive it. but 23k is such a nice price for one. I think

 

ive noticed that 4th gens have more kick off the line, but the 5th gens really shine in the high-end.

 

23K for a 2K2, interesting. Can you please post what options you are looking to get on the car? The lowest I've seem to be able to price Maxes in my town, even with a $5k dealer discount is $26k. Not flaming, just really want to know. Thanx.

 

ya the car is very smooth and refined and it will make it FEEL slower, a integra will feel faster then a GS 400 why, becuase a gs is to smooth and you have to drive the **** out the integra to get it to go fast.

 

my thoughts exactly

 

all i can say is your BUTT DYNO needs to be calibrated to the added refinment of the 2k2 5th gen 3.5vq...factor in the more luxjury feel...trust me..the speed in my sig is real..and the only way i could know without looking at the speedo..is seeing how fast the trees were flying by

 

Go test drive a G35....

 

23k is with the 1k cash back from nissan. it is an SE 6 spd with HSLD. http://www.carmax.com/SearchResults....rue&pageType=1

there is a link their new Maxima's

 

I think my butt dyno is fine, I have a car that does mid 14sec 1/4 miles so I know what it feels like to drive a car that moves as fast as the 2k2. I think that driving an I30 currently give me an idea of what the luxury and refinment should feel like. I just thought it was a little wind noisy, I know it has less sound dampening that its I35 counter part. I've had my my needle pegged too, so looking at yours doesn't really impress me much What I wanted to know is, and it was answered-the new 3.5 does seem a little sluggish off the line but makes up for it in the highend. I really didn't get to explore the higher power curve do to the mid 50 y/o sales person in the back seat. But thanks for trying to sound importnat chinaonnitrous1, please next time be a little more diplomatic when someone is asking for information. I don't think there was any need to try flame my question. I had an observation, and wanted someones opinion about it. Something along the lines of fazals or maximazeros responses would've been just as informative. thanks for your input though

 

When I drove that 6 speed, I couldnt believe the pull it had. We had the LBC Nissan meet, and our rep let us race against Brian V. He had a fully modded 97 SE 5 speed, and ran a 14.3. That 2k2 bone stock was pulling away from him. I am just waiting for this new business to take off, my boss said I may be able to pick one up by this summer.

 

I didn't see any flaming at all--just gotta have that sense of humor--I thought your "thanks for trying to sound important" was pretty funny though --from what I understand, the 6 sp. takes a little getting used to

 

I read an article in AutoWeek where they described driving the 02SE like it had a turbo. I attributed this to the "lag" that several people have talked about. I haven't quite come to a decision on this phenomenon. My experience is that there is a noticeable increase in power when you get to around 3k RPM. The power seems to be constant all the way up to 6k. Whereas my 89SE seemed to peak around 3k.

Regardless, there is no question in my mind that the 02 is seriously faster than my 89. But that's not a big surprise coming from 165HP.

 

It is because Nissan has brought back VTC. Just like the VE has. It really helps on top end. But you dont get as much out of the low end. But the top end screams. Just like all the other engine managment systems such as vtec,vvt-i, etc...

 

I totally agree that it feels like a turbo - there is a slight lag before it comes on strong. I believe the lag may be due to the drive by wire throttle - I know that the Jettas suffered from the same problem and that there is a chip available that helps fix the lag.

http://www.giacusa.com/vr6dbw.htm

As far as not being impressed with the power, why don't you test drive another 6-speed just to rule out the possibility of a "lemon"?

 

the car feels completely different then it drive, i BOGGED A launch BAD BAD BAD, at least that's how it felt, came off the line at like 1500rpms and got a 2.29 60 foot time, the engine is great no matter where it is, it's just so smooth you don't feel it.

 

the m3 feels slow, but when you realize how far you've gone in like 1 second, you know how fast it is...

 

thanks guys, I'm going to take another look at the 2k2. I have a feeling as many of you have said. It just takes a little getting used too, and maybe it was the test drive that was bad and not the car. I'll let you guys know how it went.

Louie

 

Hey SLC I30t

As long as you are talking about diplomacy, why don't you cut out the mid 50 remarks. You see, I fit into that catagory, and unlike you I know how to make my 6speed go the way it should.

 

Are all people in Utah this uptight? Maybe that explains why there is hardly anybody living in Utah

 

You're right, I strike that statement. But it was someone of that same age group only because he told me so. Maybe if you are on the Mid Atlantic Coast you can take me for a ride and show me how that 6spd is meant to be driven. I just simply didn't see the glory in MY test drive of it. I am going to go and re test drive it and see what the difference is between the 2 cars, perhapse a car with only 14 miles was too young to be abused. I also noticed that the clutch engaging point was at the bottom of the clutch swing, is that how your car is?
SUDS1-I live in Baltimore Maryland, and since you've never been there, I guess you just don't know a thing about that state.

 

Sorry, I saw the Utah tag on your sig and assumed you were from Utah. You must just be a big fan of the Olympics?

 

Its cool, I didn't get to go since I'm in school in Baltimore. But my parents rented out their homes to the families of the athletes. They enjoyed the dividends of that. But I'm from Utah, just living out east. Utah is a different world, same as ours but 15 years ago.

 

Yeah the 2k2 max is slow compare to my 12 second t-bird... Try driving something comparible to the maxima and you will really feel how fast it is. I think the car screws for a sedan... and even some coupes cant keep up with it... What a nice package of luxury and sport. I love it.

 

It's possible that the dealership people are idiots and that they put cheapo 87 octane fuel in the 2k2 that you drove I suppose.

Anyways, test drives can be very misleading and your butt-dyno is prone to being way off, especially if your expectations are very high for a car.

When I test drove Accord V6's they never felt faster than my old Camry, even though I knew they were tons faster. The combination of salespeople in the car, and not wanting to push a green engine and screw up the break-in for somebody else always held me back. I'd go for another drive, hopefully in a demo model and without the salesman

 

good point. as posted earlier I'm going to go re test drive it someplace else. As far as the Tbird guys post. I already have a mid 14sec I30, I know how a similar car runs. As far as butt dyno, I guess I'm comparing my 14's I30 to a 14's Maxima. Is this not a fair comparison?