Another NOS window switch question?
Another NOS window switch question?
I am not sure which coil wire to tap with the NOS window switch. The switch says to tap the ground wire coming off the coil, but other switches tap the wire 3rd wire that is striped and cream color so I am wondering if anyone knew whch it was.
Thanks
Thanks
I can't speak for NOS window switches, but my Harlan taps into the signal wire (which is the "other" wire). If the NOS window switch says to tap the ground, tap the ground. The 3 wires at the coil will be red, black, other (the wires may have stripes too).
-hype
-hype
Alright, have been looking through my wiring trying to find the problem.
The RPM switch atached to the ground on the relay, but I also atached the groung from the solenoids to this. Should I groung the solenoids seperately? Or does this make no difference?
The RPM switch atached to the ground on the relay, but I also atached the groung from the solenoids to this. Should I groung the solenoids seperately? Or does this make no difference?
I don't know which kit you have, but this is the wiring diagram I got from ejj for a Harlan Window Switch
I don't know if it's totally correct, but it's pretty close. My window switch has a +12V, ground, tach signal input, and an output. I'll ask Eric later and let you know.
-hype
I don't know if it's totally correct, but it's pretty close. My window switch has a +12V, ground, tach signal input, and an output. I'll ask Eric later and let you know.
-hype
Originally posted by xHypex
I don't know which kit you have, but this is the wiring diagram I got from ejj for a Harlan Window Switch
I don't know if it's totally correct, but it's pretty close. My window switch has a +12V, ground, tach signal input, and an output. I'll ask Eric later and let you know.
-hype
I don't know which kit you have, but this is the wiring diagram I got from ejj for a Harlan Window Switch
I don't know if it's totally correct, but it's pretty close. My window switch has a +12V, ground, tach signal input, and an output. I'll ask Eric later and let you know.
-hype
Here's the thread where I had to have it all explained to me:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....+switch+ground
If you're having problems with connecting the NOS window switch to the coils, PM SprintMax...I'm pretty sure he has a NOS window switch.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....+switch+ground
If you're having problems with connecting the NOS window switch to the coils, PM SprintMax...I'm pretty sure he has a NOS window switch.
Here's an updated diagram which shows the easiest way to wire the window switch.
The relay will only activate when both the WOT AND Rpm Switch are on. This also saves you from cutting extra wires.
-hype
The relay will only activate when both the WOT AND Rpm Switch are on. This also saves you from cutting extra wires.
-hype
Originally posted by xHypex
Here's an updated diagram which shows the easiest way to wire the window switch.
The relay will only activate when both the FPSS AND Rpm Switch are on. This also saves you from cutting extra wires.
-hype
Here's an updated diagram which shows the easiest way to wire the window switch.
The relay will only activate when both the FPSS AND Rpm Switch are on. This also saves you from cutting extra wires.
-hype
By the way I am super frustrated
Originally posted by Canuck
This assumes that the window switch supplies power. But the instructions with the NOS switch show that the output wire is suppose to go to the green (ground wire on the relay).
By the way I am super frustrated
This assumes that the window switch supplies power. But the instructions with the NOS switch show that the output wire is suppose to go to the green (ground wire on the relay).
By the way I am super frustrated
Originally posted by Canuck
This assumes that the window switch supplies power.
This assumes that the window switch supplies power.
Red - +12v in from arming switch
Green - Ground from WOT switch (which is only passing on the ground when activated)
Blue - +12v out to solenoids
Orange - +12v in from battery
When everything is activated the +12 from the arming switch and ground (via the WOT switch and window switch) create a potential difference which activates the relay. This causes current to flow from the battery to the solenoids.
That's the way I understand it
I wish this relay had a diagram on it so I could tell which numbers correspond with each color.-hype
Originally posted by xHypex
Here's an updated diagram which shows the easiest way to wire the window switch.
The relay will only activate when both the FPSS AND Rpm Switch are on. This also saves you from cutting extra wires.
-hype
Here's an updated diagram which shows the easiest way to wire the window switch.
The relay will only activate when both the FPSS AND Rpm Switch are on. This also saves you from cutting extra wires.
-hype
Originally posted by ejj
That's exactly how mine is wired. However, you mispoke: The relay will only activate when the FPSS, RPM switch AND WOT switch are on.
That's exactly how mine is wired. However, you mispoke: The relay will only activate when the FPSS, RPM switch AND WOT switch are on.
The relay will only activate when the arming switch and WOT switch are activated. However, the solenoid will only activate when the relay AND FPSS are activated.

BTW I just checked the WOT switch, and all it does is pass on a ground when the switch is triggered.
-hype
Originally posted by xHypex
No actually I didn't
The relay will only activate when the arming switch and WOT switch are activated.
However, the solenoid will only activate when the relay AND FPSS are activated.
BTW I just checked the WOT switch, and all it does is pass on a ground when the switch is triggered.
-hype
No actually I didn't
The relay will only activate when the arming switch and WOT switch are activated. However, the solenoid will only activate when the relay AND FPSS are activated.

BTW I just checked the WOT switch, and all it does is pass on a ground when the switch is triggered.
-hype
The relay will activate when the following THREE conditions are true:
-Acticvation switch is on
-Window Switch is on (within its range)
-WOT switch is on.
Like you just mentioned, the FPSS only controls the second solenoid, which quite honestly I didn't use and just grounded so only the main relay would control the 2nd solenoid.
Originally posted by ejj
Actcually, you did....
Actcually, you did....
At least we have the system figured out. For thoroughness here's a link to find out which terminals on the relay correspond to which colors.http://www.partsexpress.com/resources/relays.html
On the NOS (Hella) relay the colors/numbers are
30 Orange: +12v in from battery
85 Red: +12v in from the arming switch
86 Green: Ground from WOT/Window Switch
87 Blue: +12v out to solenoids
87a N/A (no wire on this relay)
If you really want to be technical you can switch the red/green wires and it won't make a difference. As long as one is +12v and the other is ground.
-hype
Originally posted by Canuck
I tried bypassing the window switch and it still doesn't work.
I have no clue what the problem is now.
I tried bypassing the window switch and it still doesn't work.
I have no clue what the problem is now.
-hype
Originally posted by xHypex
I've never used/seen a NOS window switch, so I can't really help you. The Harlan Window switch has a LED that lights up when it activates.
-hype
I've never used/seen a NOS window switch, so I can't really help you. The Harlan Window switch has a LED that lights up when it activates.
-hype
Originally posted by xHypex
You have NOS kit right? I can try to help you troubleshoot if you like. Do you have AIM?
-hype
You have NOS kit right? I can try to help you troubleshoot if you like. Do you have AIM?
-hype
Both solenoids click when given power. The is power coming from the Ariming switch and continuity when the wot switch is activated and there appears to be continuity across the relay.
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