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50 wet shot vs. VI + JWT ECU

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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50 wet shot vs. VI + JWT ECU

I've been going back and forth between the two options for my next thing to do to my car. Both cost about the same (around $1100), and would probably yield similar results on the track. I would get the NX kit #20923 plus all the necessary gauges, or the VI and the JWT with a 7000 rpm redline. Either track I take I will probably get slicks too, but probably not right away.

I'm leaning towards the VI/ECU route because I won't have to worry about turning on the nitrous if I find somebody I want to race, plus I won't have the traction issues on the road when I'm not on slicks. I know that with slicks, the 50 shot would probably edge out the VI/ECU + slicks, but I'm just not sure if I'm ready for nitrous. One thing is that I think it's illegal in Maryland...but I could be way off. Also, with the colder plugs I will need (and possibly ECU), how will my NA performance be affected?

I know a 50 shot is pretty damn small, but I just don't understand how you guys get traction on the street. I have trouble getting traction in first if the road isn't perfect..and I'm on 7.5" wide rims, although I will soon be getting 8" wide rims soon. How do you guys do it? Don't spray till 2nd?

I know I'm in the nitrous forum, so I expect to get some biased results, but if you guys could help me think of some other pros/cons, I would appciate it. Thanks.

BTW, when I get enough money, I plan on getting the other choice that I don't get now...but that could be far away....

edit: I just remembered...I know some guys are running the JWT ECU that is programmed for nitrous. I'm not very clear on if the chip is necessary, or what effect it would have on daily driving (I'm guessing it would slow me down a little bit when not on nitrous), or it's benefits when spraying. If I originally get the JWT w/7000 rpm redline, then get nitrous, will I still have to pay about $500 to get it reprogramed again? What's the deal with this situation?
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Once you spend the big bucks on the JWT, it only cost you $100 each time you want to reprogram it.

The thing is that with the standard JWT, it advances timing which is good for NA but not good on n20.
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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Since you have a 96, you can definitely get the JWT ECU w/nitrous program (and request the extended redline - just in case you also you also get a VI in the future). It utilizes only a single solenoid that is set for a 65shot (you may be able to request a higher shot) and it is fully tuned right out of the box.

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/nitrous.htm

BTW, a 65(or 50) shot will definitely be quicker than just a VI/ecu.
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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I heard that a VI doesn't do much for a 5-speeds quarter mile..
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by zeff789
I heard that a VI doesn't do much for a 5-speeds quarter mile..
...if you get an extended redline, it will. (Just not as much as nitrous.)
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 05:23 AM
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VI is only best with an extended redline and for highway runs. However a 50 shot will own the mevi but the mevi with ecu will always be working and you dont have to warm it up or turn it on, its there all teh time. Like FI.
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A 35 shot knocks 1.5 seconds off my 1/4 mile. A Mevi and ECU will probably not even give you .5 more like .2 or .3.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 07:40 AM
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Jime, but dont forget, you run slicks. Why not just save more money and get them both. You canget JWT to have a special nitrous program for your application.
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Originally Posted by SonicDust187
Jime, but dont forget, you run slicks.
Everyone who races uses slicks, you can't put out more power, have no traction and expect to have any real gains.

RACE Track=RACE Tires, measuring performance just isn't possible unless you have traction.
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Originally Posted by Jime
Everyone who races uses slicks, you can't put out more power, have no traction and expect to have any real gains.

RACE Track=RACE Tires, measuring performance just isn't possible unless you have traction.

that's why i plan on getting slicks after either of the choices. but considering how slicks would help me now, i might just get them before either of the two choices. this way i could also gauge the true power of a VI/ECU or 50 shot.

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one more thing, how do you guys get traction on the streets? do you even spray on the street? dont spray in 1st?
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I dont spray in first with a 50+ shot. But I am a 5 speed, autos might be different.
Old Nov 2, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicDust187
I dont spray in first with a 50+ shot. But I am a 5 speed, autos might be different.
I'm guessing you mean on street tires, right?
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