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Old 01-14-2005 | 07:50 PM
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Pics of new JWT dry 65 shot setup with custom gauges

Well, I finally got most of the interior done, and I'm loving it. The custom gauge housing was done by Jason (Tapout) and it is amazing. It has the Autometer nitrous pressure gauge and A/F gauge, along with the bottle heater and nitrous activation switches. The only pieces my interior is missing are the leather center console cover and a few 'custom' gunmetal pieces. Well here are some pics.....more on page 4 of my homepage...





I just wanted to post pics to show off Jason's work. He put a lot of effort into my car, and I think it shows. I’m just a little confused about how the A/F gauge is supposed to be read. It runs from lean on the left (red lights) to stoich (yellow) to rich (green) on the right. The rightmost little light of the gauge (green/rich) is constantly lit up as bright as possible, while all the other little lights are also lit up, but a lot dimmer. This gives me the impression that my car is running rich off the chart, but I doubt JWT would tune the ECU so poorly. However, I can’t even see the gauge change when I drive, spray or NA. It might be changing, but it’s too dim for me to see. Anyone have experience with an Autometer A/F gauge before?

So the ECU is set up for a 65 shot (dry) to spray from 3000-6400, and boy does it feel good.. With the MEVI, my traction issues aren’t too bad. I don’t spin at all in 2nd, and I bet at the track I could hold traction in first with the nitrous. If not, I got slicks I really want to dyno my car to see if I am indeed running rich off the chart. I hope to get around 200/200 whp/wtq NA and 260/300 with the 65 shot. If I open my exhaust cutout and get a 70mm TB, I could see some more.

Anyways, I’m loving nitrous so far. I’m just not looking forward to running out at $50 a bottle. I’m am looking forward to putting in new PLATINUM plugs, and tuning my car. Stay tuned for results.
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One word.... Awesome. very nice Setup. My one regret is that i have a 99 which prevents the option of an ECU upgrade. If i would i would do exactly what you did. Nice gauge panel.
If you don't mind me asking where did you get those pedals? and how hard were they to install?
Shift **** is also hot. Does it thread right on?
Nice car man
Old 01-14-2005 | 08:37 PM
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Looks really good!!!! I like the custom panel, nice and clean. Go you.
Old 01-14-2005 | 08:53 PM
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I always like to hear it when people like my work....
Old 01-14-2005 | 10:11 PM
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I am sure that you will love your JWT ECU with 65 hp shot setup. I have had mine for over 2 years. I dynoed my car when I originally received it. Not too many mods at the time, just a homemade hacked intake and a slipping clutch. The jet I received in the package was s a .042, good for 80 hp. Either way, I still managed to get 156hp/183 ft-lb all motor and 246 hp /274 ft-lb on the bottle. Notice that the power increase was 90 hp / 91 ft-lb to the wheels. Not bad for a "65 shot" if you ask me.

I notice that you mention platinum plugs. I suggest that you do a bit of research before using platinum plugs with nitrous oxide. My understanding is that they are not recommended for nitrous oxide setups. I personally stick to copper, better spark at a cheaper price.
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Well, I got the pedals from a group deal from a dealership. They required a little cutting and tweaking to fit perfectly, but it wasn't too rough. The shift **** is a Sola Luna, and yeah, it threads right on. I love it.
I'm only using platinum because JWT said to use stock plugs. I have them gapped a little tighter though. What plugs did you use meximax, and why?
Old 01-15-2005 | 05:54 AM
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JWT does not mention that nothing needs to be changed. Like I mentioned in my previous post, platinum plugs are not recommended for nitrous applications.

Check this link out: plug info

I use a standard copper NGK BKR5ES-11 gapped at .044. They are the same heat range as our stock platinums.
Old 01-15-2005 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by meximax
JWT does not mention that nothing needs to be changed. Like I mentioned in my previous post, platinum plugs are not recommended for nitrous applications.

Check this link out: plug info

I use a standard copper NGK BKR5ES-11 gapped at .044. They are the same heat range as our stock platinums.
But why does JWT say to use OEM plugs? I assume they know what they're talking about, although I can't deny that copper does sound safer.
Old 01-15-2005 | 11:26 AM
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very nice install. looks real clean.
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Turns out the clutch doesn't take too well to the 65 shot. It's some crappy OEM-wannabe clutch, and I'm gonna have to replace it sometime, cause this clutch won't hold on the track....damnit
Old 01-15-2005 | 05:19 PM
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i was just looking at your homepage your entire interior is hot. Much more attractive than the regular 4th gen interior. The all nice touches. congrats on having a one of a kind car.
One more question did you just screw the kickplate/footrest into the floor? what actually holds the pedals to the assmblies? are their set screws or any screws?
Old 01-15-2005 | 05:31 PM
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Thanks for the compliments on the interior...I'm pretty fond of it too

Yeah, we just drilled the deadpedal into the floor. To put the pedals on, I believe both the clutch and brake pedals just slid on to a rod and were tightened up. The gas pedal was similar, but part of the hole had to be trimmed to get it to fit.
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you better start saving for a new clutch sometime soon. March 6 isn't far away.
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also, where'd you get your Nitrous pressure guage from? mechanical or electric?
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I got it as part of a package deal I got from Tampamax. It's mechanical.
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the platinum can run hot enough to melt and will eat through the top of the piston when it drips. for nitrous stay away from copper or iridium plugs. dependent on how your plugs read you may have to go 1 to 2 steps colder on them. go with a colder range copper plug. better safe than sorry.
Old 01-24-2005 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Cant_Get_Ryte
the platinum can run hot enough to melt and will eat through the top of the piston when it drips. for nitrous stay away from copper or iridium plugs. dependent on how your plugs read you may have to go 1 to 2 steps colder on them. go with a colder range copper plug. better safe than sorry.
Come again?
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Originally Posted by 95maxrider
But why does JWT say to use OEM plugs? I assume they know what they're talking about, although I can't deny that copper does sound safer.
a 65 shot is safe to use with stock plugs plat. jwt and stillen both told me this. c max i know ran a 60 shot with plat plugs for a while with no problems.
Old 01-24-2005 | 11:10 AM
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a 65 shot is safe to use with stock plugs plat. jwt and stillen both told me this. c max i know ran a 60 shot with plat plugs for a while with no problems.
when i first got my kit from stillen they told me to use stock plugs which i did for yrs spraying 60-70 shot dry. also after i got my jwt program they also told me to use stock plugs which i did with no problems what so ever. now recently over the last yr i have changed to copper plugs with 0.36 gap and this is the first time ever i detonated, not saying that this was the cause but it sure didnt help. i changed because everybody said this was the way to go but in my case it still didnt help. 60 shot is perfectly safe with stock plugs but i think if you plan on going higher to lets say 70+ then it cant hurt to put copper plugs.
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Originally Posted by UNCDooD
also, where'd you get your Nitrous pressure guage from? mechanical or electric?
It is a very basic guage, the speed shop I get my nitrous refilled at sells them. If you want one, let me know. I actually have one with a white face on it, and a triple guage pod for the Max if you are interested.
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Originally Posted by 95maxrider
I’m just not looking forward to running out at $50 a bottle.

what are u nuts? u spoiled brat, there are shops around me charging 7-8 bucks a freakin pound, plus tax....i have to drive like 40 minutes to get that price....
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what are u nuts? u spoiled brat, there are shops around me charging 7-8 bucks a freakin pound, plus tax....i have to drive like 40 minutes to get that price....


woah, dude, just chill out a little bit. and is that with or without any KY jelly? I can get a 10 lb. Bottle filled for like $38-$40.
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Originally Posted by UNCDooD
woah, dude, just chill out a little bit

mr sensitivity i was joking around...cant even kid around without ppl saying "whoa dude, just totally chill out"....

smh...
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Originally Posted by TJ_Max
mr sensitivity i was joking around...cant even kid around without ppl saying "whoa dude, just totally chill out"....

smh...
i pay about 4.50 per lb no tax, but its about a 45 min ride from brooklyn.
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c max 1. y arent u on nyc max.org.
2. where is this place u speak of? only place i know thats 5 is s & k speed
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Originally Posted by UNCDooD
woah, dude, just chill out a little bit. and is that with or without any KY jelly? I can get a 10 lb. Bottle filled for like $38-$40.
WOAH Jason...CHILL OUT.
Where do you get your bottle filled for that cheap?
Anyone know how much MIR charges for a refill?
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i get mine filled at a local performance shop that is about 2miles from the house.


and yea, its kinda hard to tell whether one is being a **** or just joking when not using any smilies. and plus I'd to see Nick start crying over a little name calling.



now back to my post on the sofa to look out for the UPS man.
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I pay $55 to get mined filled when it is completely empty.


























Did I mention I have a 15# bottle?

$3.50 a pound
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Good job on the car, looks very clean. I also like what you did with the interior. Great job on the gauge setup, tapout. Tapout, how much are you looking for the guage and guage pod?
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Originally Posted by 95maxrider
Well, I got the pedals from a group deal from a dealership. They required a little cutting and tweaking to fit perfectly, but it wasn't too rough. The shift **** is a Sola Luna, and yeah, it threads right on. I love it.
I'm only using platinum because JWT said to use stock plugs. I have them gapped a little tighter though. What plugs did you use meximax, and why?
Rspeed says that the **** is for a miata. Do these two cars share the same thread? All the reviews are good for this **** too!
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Originally Posted by UNCDooD
and plus I'd to see Nick start crying over a little name calling.

Come again?

I guess I won't be getting my bottle filled by your shop then.....what are you expecting now?
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Originally Posted by swowlinc
Rspeed says that the **** is for a miata. Do these two cars share the same thread? All the reviews are good for this **** too!
Yea, we do have the same threads as the miatas.
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that looks great ! very nice work !
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Originally Posted by TJ_Max
c max 1. y arent u on nyc max.org.
2. where is this place u speak of? only place i know thats 5 is s & k speed
i'll check out the site, and turbo people in yonkers. its a ride but not too bad i used to drive to brooklyn for mine before this place which is very close to me.
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nice looking setup, but that a/f guage is useless and basically just an LED light show. I would recommend getting an EGT guage if your using it more for monitoring or if money isnt an option some type of wideband.
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Oh, I'm well aware the gauge does nothing. I got it as part of a package deal, so I decided I would throw it in for the time being since I don't have enough money to replace it with anything worth while.
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[QUOTE=Bluebird]I pay $55 to get mined filled when it is completely empty.

You pay out the a** for Nitrous up there! The shop I go to charges $2 bucks a pound, altough the shop is a piece of crap the prices are good. Nitrous is nitrous right, never had a single problem with a refill. All the other shops around here charge $2.50 - $3.00.
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Hey, I'm just happy I don't have to pay $7-8 a pound like these NY cats.

$2 would be nice though
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I get mine filled for $20 , its good to have connections...
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Originally Posted by Cant_Get_Ryte
the platinum can run hot enough to melt and will eat through the top of the piston when it drips. for nitrous stay away from copper or iridium plugs. dependent on how your plugs read you may have to go 1 to 2 steps colder on them. go with a colder range copper plug. better safe than sorry.

Wrong...you want copper plugs since the electrode is wider and harder to blow out (or easier to ignite in the instance of n2o)...


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