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Old Nov 18, 2000 | 09:20 PM
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put in a stillen sc and the upgrades needed for an auto trans to go along with it i need to set a goal to reach or i'll just use up the cash now....

could the stuff be done at my house or i should goto a shop to have them do it....

i heard talk at the street races about a 4 gen maxima with a 99 pathfinder swap is this possible???
Old Nov 18, 2000 | 10:11 PM
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Stillen SC is ~$3500 + ~$1000 for install. Not a DIY job.

E-mail Don in Texas for the Valve body mod. This is something you can install yourself, easy just very messy!

Lots of stuff to do after/before. Good luck w/ your mods!!

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Old Nov 18, 2000 | 10:33 PM
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Thats sounds a bit steap to me,

Stillen sells the the SCharger for $3350,and if you are determand enough you may be able to install it your self but if you can't then the install should cost no more then $500,I know there is a shop in NewJersey a long ways away from Florida but they Install it in your car for $3600 which is not bad.You may want to check the for sale forum there is a guy that is/was selling a used SC for $2500 I think his screen name is DavidB correct me if I am wrong but Good Luck.
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$500 for the install? That's pretty cheap. Estimated 11 hours of labor, so 500/11 = ~$45 an hour.

DavidL7 is selling his V1 sc if you're interested.
Old Nov 19, 2000 | 04:39 PM
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uhh there was nothing about the sc or vb mods there i know about all the other mods from my honda days just dont know anything about this sc and vb stuff is there a link to "Don in Texas"


whats the diff bettween v1 and v2 sc??

any links would be great
Old Nov 19, 2000 | 04:51 PM
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V1 vs V2

uhh there was nothing about the sc or vb mods there i know about all the other mods from my honda days just dont know anything about this sc and vb stuff is there a link to "Don in Texas"

Don's VB mod I believe it is a modification to the factory auto tranny {I have a 5SPD so not a 100% sure}which makes the car shift very quickly and crisp about the same as a 5SPD.

whats the diff bettween v1 and v2 sc??

The V2 is the newer SCharger that replaced the V2 but seems to have some bad reliability issues,so the general rule of thumb is the V1 is a better choice if you can still find one

I am going to find the link to DavidL7's used SC charger info for ya I will post it in a few minutes.

Hey Y2KevSE wat is the matter with $45 dollars a hour for labor? Thats the going rate up here in R.I.,I know a very could mechanic who operates in his own garage who only charges $30 a hour not bad huh.

Allright found it heres the link to DavisL7's used SC https://maxima.org/forums/showthread...?threadid=8662



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Old Nov 19, 2000 | 05:07 PM
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right now i have about 200 bucks saved up(not that much) i already e-mailed david about his sc and treid to find some fast money but it couldn't be done just trying to find a price so i can set some goals for my self, should be saved about forever from now working for 6 bucks an hour i need a "real" job

how much is the vb mod?? sounds pretty cool might go n/a if the shops i goto tomarrow wont do it
Old Nov 20, 2000 | 05:33 AM
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woo..someone else putting the nasty cricket sounding thing under the hood! my shop charged me $800 for installation.
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Old Nov 20, 2000 | 07:52 AM
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You'll need lots of $$ (and some extra $$ just in case something decides not to work)

-The VB mod is ~$400 from Don in Texas..well worth it. You can either DIY or pay someone to install it for you. You will also need tranny fluid.
-Tranny cooler and extra hosing costs ~$60 (I believe someone has install instructions and pics for this)
-S/C ~$3500... install for the S/C costed me ~$1k (includes
tuning and dyno)
Tires..you should get tires that grip
-Brakes..with all that extra power, you need to be able to stop.
-boost gauge and pod would be nice ~$100 depending on which one you decide to get

hehe..after spending this much, your wallet may seem a little lighter
Hope this helps.

emax95: There isn't anything wrong with the $45/hour labor charge...That's pretty cheap that's all.
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Re: V1 vs V2

Originally posted by emax95
Hey Y2KevSE wat is the matter with $45 dollars a hour for labor? Thats the going rate up here in R.I.,I know a very could mechanic who operates in his own garage who only charges $30 a hour not bad huh.
$30 an hour?!?!?! Too bad you guys live on the other side of the country...
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remember..you get what u pay for. some shade tree grease monkey can charge u 20 bucks/hr but is he compentent enough to install your SC?? prob not.
emax do u even know what the install intails?? it's not something you can do in 1 day. it takes a long time to do it correctly...tuning is VERY important. also like jane said tires, brakes, tranny cooler, etc etc all will be needed for it to work correctly. you just don't slap on a SC and do nothing else.
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Originally posted by emax95
Hey Y2KevSE wat is the matter with $45 dollars a hour for labor? Thats the going rate up here in R.I.,I know a very could mechanic who operates in his own garage who only charges $30 a hour not bad huh.
$30 an hour?!?!?! Too bad you guys live on the other side of the country...
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Shade tree Monkey HaHa {Hu Hu Haaaa Haaaa}

No this guys is a top of the line mechanic he does work for dealerships to,they actual send him some of there cars when they can't figure out whats wrong,the reason he is cheap is because he is self employd and has no over head stealin his money,also I understand what is involved in a SC install since I have come very close to getting one more then once and have researched it a great deal.
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dont forget TurboMax's shop. My rates are pretty cheap!! ill be busy the upcoming weeks with thanksgiving, Miata supercharger install, and i think Jane or Kev brakes/tokicos and Lynn's brakes. Thats if they DONT flake out.....hehehe.
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Re: Shade tree Monkey HaHa {Hu Hu Haaaa Haaaa}

ok let's see...
so dealerships w/ MILLION of dollars worth of tools and many many hours spent traning their techs...they can't figure something out and have to go to a guy who works at home?!?! this is gotta be the biggest horse $heeit i've ever heard in my entire life. this guy at home have a floor lift? hunter alignment rack? sunpro engine machines? scanners? if this guy can do something than the dealers that charge over 50-60 bucks per hr than this guy is charging wayyy to little.
how much research did u exactly do on the SC?
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No this guys is a top of the line mechanic he does work for dealerships to,they actual send him some of there cars when they can't figure out whats wrong,the reason he is cheap is because he is self employd and has no over head stealin his money,also I understand what is involved in a SC install since I have come very close to getting one more then once and have researched it a great deal.
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Seeeeshh!! I feel like your taking me to court,

or something whats your deal man?Are you still sour over the oil argument we had about 8 Months ago haha.I did 17.5 hours research on the SC if you really want to know.The mechanic use to work for a Nissan dealership and went through special tranning including years of college,he has a hooked up garage at his house{it's a seperate garage from his house}with all the fancy tools and all.He told me dealers send him cars all the time and I have seen some nice new cars in his garage.Who cares anyways I am not having a SC there installed so Please no more smart *** coments or stupid questions there not getting either of us anywere in life.Peace
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Re: Seeeeshh!! I feel like your taking me to court,

i could care less what oil to use..do what u want.
the guy work out of his house..that's fine. 17.5 research on the stillen SC?..ok smart guy tell me where does the coolant return tank goes when u install the SC? what size is the fitting on the braided SC hose?...i can go for hrs.
anywayyyy...
i'm just finding it very hard to believe that a guy who works out of his house can out do a dealership. you know dealer tech go back to classes for new technology on cars all the time...i don't care if this guy got his masters in engine thermodynamics and applied blah blah blah...cars advance everyday...it's not just big block push rod V8s anymore. there's more electronics there than u think. i want to know what tool that this guys has that the dealer doesnt?? if you think sooo highly of this guy then why not have the SC out in by him??? hey he's cheap and he KNOWS more than the dealers..right?
you made a comment on here back it up with facts...i hate people who BS about things and have NOTHING to back it up. some guys said it's 800 to 1000 to properly install a SC you said u can get it done like 500 or under...ok fine. let's see u get that done then. if your talking out of your **** then i just busted u.
i don't like wasting my time on this petty pissing match but if your going to shoot someone down better have the info to back it up.
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Originally posted by emax95
or something whats your deal man?Are you still sour over the oil argument we had about 8 Months ago haha.I did 17.5 hours research on the SC if you really want to know.The mechanic use to work for a Nissan dealership and went through special tranning including years of college,he has a hooked up garage at his house{it's a seperate garage from his house}with all the fancy tools and all.He told me dealers send him cars all the time and I have seen some nice new cars in his garage.Who cares anyways I am not having a SC there installed so Please no more smart *** coments or stupid questions there not getting either of us anywere in life.Peace
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Ok Dan let me answer your updated quiz,,

[I]i could care less what oil to use..do what u want.
the guy work out of his house..that's fine. 17.5 research on the stillen SC?..ok smart guy tell me where does the coolant return tank goes when u install the SC? what size is the fitting on the braided SC hose?...i can go for hrs.
anywayyyy...
Ok wize guy the coolant tank is relocated to the backside of the battery,and for the fiting on the SC hose it is a -4 steal braided oil pressure feed line,So I guess this makes me a smart guy huh!!Any other dumb *** question I got all day.

i'm just finding it very hard to believe that a guy who works out of his house can out do a dealership. you know dealer tech go back to classes for new technology on cars all the time...i don't care if this guy got his masters in engine thermodynamics and applied blah blah blah...cars advance everyday...it's not just big block push rod V8s anymore.
Lets see now refresh me when Nissan's had big block V8's I just can't seem to remember that one?

there's more electronics there than u think. i want to know what tool that this guys has that the dealer doesnt??
It is known as his brain.

if you think sooo highly of this guy then why not have the SC out in by him???
You lost me with that question what are you trying to say about quote then why not have the SC out in by him?? what the hell is that sopouse to mean ???


hey he's cheap and he KNOWS more than the dealers..right?

He told me dealers send him cars to work on and I have seen some real nice cars in his garage.

you made a comment on here back it up with facts...i hate people who BS about things and have NOTHING to back it up.
How am I supposed to back it up?

some guys said it's 800 to 1000 to properly install a SC you said u can get it done like 500 or under...ok fine. let's see u get that done then. if your talking out of your **** then i just busted u.

My *** does not talk much at least it hasent said anything today but I will keep a eye on it and see if it has any good info haha.Also you said lets see it get done then what the hell are you talking about I never said I even want a SC if I did I would have had him install it a long time ago,I am not about to go spend $4000 so I can please you.

i don't like wasting my time on this petty pissing match but if your going to shoot someone down better have the info to back it up.
Good then shut up !! I don't like it either I allready stated that before {you are the one who started the argumant as usuall,hears your chance to stop and not reaply because your not getting anywere other then making your self look like a fool.
Good luck with your next bash {give me some more quiz questions there fun}
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
dont forget TurboMax's shop. My rates are pretty cheap!! ill be busy the upcoming weeks with thanksgiving, Miata supercharger install, and i think Jane or Kev brakes/tokicos and Lynn's brakes. Thats if they DONT flake out.....hehehe.
I'm not going to flake... it's the other two who will.
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Re: Ok Dan let me answer your updated quiz,,

your taking this at a personal level no need for that..ok well here goes...

Originally posted by emax95
i could care less what oil to use..do what u want.
the guy work out of his house..that's fine. 17.5 research on the stillen SC?..ok smart guy tell me where does the coolant return tank goes when u install the SC? what size is the fitting on the braided SC hose?...i can go for hrs.
anywayyyy...
Ok wize guy the coolant tank is relocated to the backside of the battery,and for the fiting on the SC hose it is a -4 steal braided oil pressure feed line,So I guess this makes me a smart guy huh!!Any other dumb *** question I got all day.


wow u got the the ez questions...
tell me:
how big is the stock SC pulley?
what trim is the SC from vortech?
how many bolts are used to bolt the SC plate on to the engine? how many different sizes of bolts are there on the plate?
the sc is bolted on to the plate, what sizes are the allen keys used to take the SC off the plate? how many allen bolts are there?
what BOV does the stillen SC comes with?
what parts off the engine do u grind off? (this is a ez one)
what other accessories you need to relocate (name at least 3)? (also ez one)

i know you can probably find the other answers in a installation sheet..but this stuff u just can't find on that (or maybe u can). so give it your best shot. better start surfing the internet. if you do get these right then i'll give u props that u did your research.


i'm just finding it very hard to believe that a guy who works out of his house can out do a dealership. you know dealer tech go back to classes for new technology on cars all the time...i don't care if this guy got his masters in engine thermodynamics and applied blah blah blah...cars advance everyday...it's not just big block push rod V8s anymore.
Lets see now refresh me when Nissan's had big block V8's I just can't seem to remember that one?

i'm referring to ALL cars..ya know if the guy only knows nissans don't know any other cars then either he doesn't know what he's doing or you don't know what your talking about. oh and if you want to see nissan's V8 check the Q45....and if you want to get crazy check out Infinity's Indy V8 engine. let me remember how dumb you made yourself look.


there's more electronics there than u think. i want to know what tool that this guys has that the dealer doesnt??
It is known as his brain.

right...he can from his "brain" tell which cyl is leaking or which valve seal is bad? which cyl have what compression? what temp is the ECU reading from the intake? how much air is passing through the ECU?
if he can please i want to meet him because he's smarter than the computer.


if you think sooo highly of this guy then why not have the SC out in by him???
You lost me with that question what are you trying to say about quote then why not have the SC out in by him?? what the hell is that sopouse to mean ???

ok since u said that u don't want to put a SC in then do u go to this guy for any other replairs? or do u work them out yourself? does he have any certification or he's just goes by experience?


hey he's cheap and he KNOWS more than the dealers..right?

ok but just keep in mind cheap doesn't always means better..but in this case looks like it's the other way around.


He told me dealers send him cars to work on and I have seen some real nice cars in his garage.

ok great...well i dunno what dealers you have by you buy if i was going to get charged 60,70,80 bucks /hr than i want a factory certified tech to look at my car...not some guy in a garage that's out in the sticks working on my car. would u want to the same for your car?


you made a comment on here back it up with facts...i hate people who BS about things and have NOTHING to back it up.
How am I supposed to back it up?

have pics of his place? i'll shut up if i can see this guy and what his shop looks like and what cars he's working on and etc.


some guys said it's 800 to 1000 to properly install a SC you said u can get it done like 500 or under...ok fine. let's see u get that done then. if your talking out of your **** then i just busted u.

My *** does not talk much at least it hasent said anything today but I will keep a eye on it and see if it has any good info haha.Also you said lets see it get done then what the hell are you talking about I never said I even want a SC if I did I would have had him install it a long time ago,I am not about to go spend $4000 so I can please you.

oh ok..could've fooled me. h
ey u can do what u want with your $$. why go through the whole 17.5 hrs of research if your not going to put a SC into your car?? you have time to kill or something?

i don't like wasting my time on this petty pissing match but if your going to shoot someone down better have the info to back it up.
Good then shut up !! I don't like it either I allready stated that before {you are the one who started the argumant as usuall,hears your chance to stop and not reaply because your not getting anywere other then making your self look like a fool.
Good luck with your next bash {give me some more quiz questions there fun}
Dan

see there u go getting personal again..is this DISCUSSION pissing you off?? i'm doing fine here.
it's not a arguement! u see anyone yelling here?
i've been on this BBS for a while and not once i made myself look like a fool. it's not a bash..it's called a discussion.
Dan


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More answers to your increasingly dumb questions,,

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DanNY
your taking this at a personal level no need for that..ok well here goes...
Hmmm lets see know you were talking about my *** and that's personale man.

wow u got the the ez questions...
tell me:
how big is the stock SC pulley?
Not sure about this one but I think the AM one is 3.48
what trim is the SC from vortech?
What do you meen trim explain?

how many bolts are used to bolt the SC plate on to the engine?
9 Bolts

how many different sizes of bolts are there on the plate?
2 Bolts

the sc is bolted on to the plate, what sizes are the allen keys used to take the SC off the plate?
1.0X55mm,and 1.5X55mm

how many allen bolts are there?
15 Bolts

what BOV does the stillen SC comes with?
Blitz blow off or is that AM?

what parts off the engine do u grind off?
Shave the Alternator top mounting.


what other accessories you need to relocate (name at least 3)?
The fuse box,Anti theft horn {only 99},and the ballast resister.

i know you can probably find the other answers in a installation sheet..but this stuff u just can't find on that (or maybe u can).
Hmmm I have no qlue were to find this crap on the internet nore will I bother,The info I have is from reading the Stillen instructions I have at home.


so give it your best shot. better start surfing the internet.
I don't think so!!And please no more dumb *** questions that are meaning less.Thanks

if you do get these right then i'll give u props that u did your research.
Were are my props at come on now?

i'm referring to ALL cars..ya know if the guy only knows nissans don't know any other cars then either he doesn't know what he's doing or you don't know what your talking about. oh and if you want to see nissan's V8 check the Q45....and if you want to get crazy check out Infinity's Indy V8 engine. let me remember how dumb you made yourself look.
Enough with bashing the guy I all ready told you every thing I can to credit him,also those are not Nissan engines now are they,there Infinity which has it's own devision.

right...he can from his "brain" tell which cyl is leaking or which valve seal is bad? which cyl have what compression? what temp is the ECU reading from the intake? how much air is passing through the ECU?
if he can please i want to meet him because he's smarter than the computer.
I allready said he has all the special tools.

ok since u said that u don't want to put a SC in then do u go to this guy for any other replairs?
He is my family mechanic and we were refered to him by my old Nissan Mechanic.

or do u work them out yourself?
I do all the work that I can do right no in between arguing with you I am removing my tranny and getting it ready for my new clutch.

does he have any certification or he's just goes by experience?
Cetifcation?? He went to college and what not.

hey he's cheap and he KNOWS more than the dealers..right?
Maybe he does,but not every dealer I am sure,

ok but just keep in mind cheap doesn't always means better..but in this case looks like it's the other way around.
Ok I guess so.

He told me dealers send him cars to work on and I have seen some real nice cars in his garage.

ok great...well i dunno what dealers you have by you buy if i was going to get charged 60,70,80 bucks /hr than i want a factory certified tech to look at my car...not some guy in a garage that's out in the sticks working on my car. would u want to the same for your car?He does not charge $60-$80 a hour what hte hell are you talking about?

you made a comment on here back it up with facts...i hate people who BS about things and have NOTHING to back it up.
THINK YOU WENT PERSONAL RIGHT THERE!!

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have pics of his place? i'll shut up if i can see this guy and what his shop looks like and what cars he's working on and etc.
First off my car does not work and I am fixing it now so even if I was going to do a documentry of this guy I can't,also I am not friends with the guy I have only talked to him a couple of times when I droped my brothers/Parents car off for them,so point being I would feel uncomfortable/weird about going around his garage taking pictures of him,not to mentione I am not going to waste my time.

some guys said it's 800 to 1000 to properly install a SC you said u can get it done like 500 or under...ok fine. let's see u get that done then. if your talking out of your **** then i just busted u.
THIS IS PESONAL TO!!

oh ok..could've fooled me. h
ey u can do what u want with your $$. why go through the whole 17.5 hrs of research if your not going to put a SC into your car?? you have time to kill or something?
I learned so much about it and put in the 17.5 {LOL} hours because at one point in my life not long ago I was saving up for the SC but decided to invest my money in Mutual Funds instead.

see there u go getting personal again..is this DISCUSSION pissing you off??
Yes when ever I talk to you I get pissed off, I guess you have a real nack of doing it.
i'm doing fine here.
Good for you glad your having fun!!

it's not a arguement! u see anyone yelling here?
Nope I can't see any yelling here I just see a few pics of some cars,and yes this is a argument due to the way you replyed to my posts,In the future if you have these dumb as questions and foul coments email me rather then taking up space on the forum.

i've been on this BBS for a while and not once i made myself look like a fool. it's not a bash..it's called a discussion.
I have been on here for a while now to {maybe not as long as you}and you are the only person I have ever argued with infact twice now.
Dan

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Re: More answers to your increasingly dumb questions,,

alright..alright..i'll let it go..do whatever u want..i could care less what the hell u do with your money and time.
BTW you have to grind off the thermostat housing too..(page 4)
i've worked on the SC numerous numerous times..just got to me when you say it takes like $30 bucks per hr for someone to properly install a SC when the rest of the world it takes much more.
reading the install instructions and working on the damn thing is totally 2 different things...just keep that in mind.
Dan

[QUOTE]Originally posted by emax95
Originally posted by DanNY
your taking this at a personal level no need for that..ok well here goes...
Hmmm lets see know you were talking about my *** and that's personale man.

wow u got the the ez questions...
tell me:
how big is the stock SC pulley?
Not sure about this one but I think the AM one is 3.48
what trim is the SC from vortech?
What do you meen trim explain?

how many bolts are used to bolt the SC plate on to the engine?
9 Bolts

how many different sizes of bolts are there on the plate?
2 Bolts

the sc is bolted on to the plate, what sizes are the allen keys used to take the SC off the plate?
1.0X55mm,and 1.5X55mm

how many allen bolts are there?
15 Bolts

what BOV does the stillen SC comes with?
Blitz blow off or is that AM?

what parts off the engine do u grind off?
Shave the Alternator top mounting.


what other accessories you need to relocate (name at least 3)?
The fuse box,Anti theft horn {only 99},and the ballast resister.

i know you can probably find the other answers in a installation sheet..but this stuff u just can't find on that (or maybe u can).
Hmmm I have no qlue were to find this crap on the internet nore will I bother,The info I have is from reading the Stillen instructions I have at home.


so give it your best shot. better start surfing the internet.
I don't think so!!And please no more dumb *** questions that are meaning less.Thanks

if you do get these right then i'll give u props that u did your research.
Were are my props at come on now?

i'm referring to ALL cars..ya know if the guy only knows nissans don't know any other cars then either he doesn't know what he's doing or you don't know what your talking about. oh and if you want to see nissan's V8 check the Q45....and if you want to get crazy check out Infinity's Indy V8 engine. let me remember how dumb you made yourself look.
Enough with bashing the guy I all ready told you every thing I can to credit him,also those are not Nissan engines now are they,there Infinity which has it's own devision.

right...he can from his "brain" tell which cyl is leaking or which valve seal is bad? which cyl have what compression? what temp is the ECU reading from the intake? how much air is passing through the ECU?
if he can please i want to meet him because he's smarter than the computer.
I allready said he has all the special tools.

ok since u said that u don't want to put a SC in then do u go to this guy for any other replairs?
He is my family mechanic and we were refered to him by my old Nissan Mechanic.

or do u work them out yourself?
I do all the work that I can do right no in between arguing with you I am removing my tranny and getting it ready for my new clutch.

does he have any certification or he's just goes by experience?
Cetifcation?? He went to college and what not.

hey he's cheap and he KNOWS more than the dealers..right?
Maybe he does,but not every dealer I am sure,

ok but just keep in mind cheap doesn't always means better..but in this case looks like it's the other way around.
Ok I guess so.

He told me dealers send him cars to work on and I have seen some real nice cars in his garage.

ok great...well i dunno what dealers you have by you buy if i was going to get charged 60,70,80 bucks /hr than i want a factory certified tech to look at my car...not some guy in a garage that's out in the sticks working on my car. would u want to the same for your car?He does not charge $60-$80 a hour what hte hell are you talking about?

you made a comment on here back it up with facts...i hate people who BS about things and have NOTHING to back it up.
THINK YOU WENT PERSONAL RIGHT THERE!!
have pics of his place? i'll shut up if i can see this guy and what his shop looks like and what cars he's working on and etc.
First off my car does not work and I am fixing it now so even if I was going to do a documentry of this guy I can't,also I am not friends with the guy I have only talked to him a couple of times when I droped my brothers/Parents car off for them,so point being I would feel uncomfortable/weird about going around his garage taking pictures of him,not to mentione I am not going to waste my time.

some guys said it's 800 to 1000 to properly install a SC you said u can get it done like 500 or under...ok fine. let's see u get that done then. if your talking out of your **** then i just busted u.
THIS IS PESONAL TO!!

oh ok..could've fooled me. h
ey u can do what u want with your $$. why go through the whole 17.5 hrs of research if your not going to put a SC into your car?? you have time to kill or something?
I learned so much about it and put in the 17.5 {LOL} hours because at one point in my life not long ago I was saving up for the SC but decided to invest my money in Mutual Funds instead.

see there u go getting personal again..is this DISCUSSION pissing you off??
Yes when ever I talk to you I get pissed off, I guess you have a real nack of doing it.
i'm doing fine here.
Good for you glad your having fun!!

it's not a arguement! u see anyone yelling here?
Nope I can't see any yelling here I just see a few pics of some cars,and yes this is a argument due to the way you replyed to my posts,In the future if you have these dumb as questions and foul coments email me rather then taking up space on the forum.

i've been on this BBS for a while and not once i made myself look like a fool. it's not a bash..it's called a discussion.
I have been on here for a while now to {maybe not as long as you}and you are the only person I have ever argued with infact twice now.
Dan

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Old Nov 20, 2000 | 04:33 PM
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Go Dan go! LOL
Old Nov 20, 2000 | 04:58 PM
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cost

6g's will get u started.
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