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Old 11-19-2002, 06:33 AM
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why is turbo knocked for auto's

why isn't turbo on an automatic encouraged .. instead people knock it
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As long as their tranny is built to hold it, go for it...

if any auto comes to KY, I would gladly have the kit fitted to their car, and would love to see what an auto max could do !
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Re: why is turbo knocked for auto's

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why isn't turbo on an automatic encouraged .. instead people knock it
Its not knocked its just that nobody has made a kit for the autos yet. So no one knows how much boost you can handle, how the tranny will hold up...........

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Also don't lose sight of the fact that the Auto tranny is physically bigger than the manual, thus space for piping and such becomes a major issue. It can be done of course. Just more of a PITA than it is for a 5 speed.
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Originally posted by hlh0501
As long as their tranny is built to hold it, go for it...

if any auto comes to KY, I would gladly have the kit fitted to their car, and would love to see what an auto max could do !
how much?
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Originally posted by hlh0501
As long as their tranny is built to hold it, go for it...

if any auto comes to KY, I would gladly have the kit fitted to their car, and would love to see what an auto max could do !

I know I said this before, but again if I had the money I would drive up to your place and get the turbo install on my auto.
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Makes you wonder if the Maximum Tuning "race" VB mod would hold up to the turbo...

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The one turbo on a 5th gen auto got too expensive. I mean he had to throw a couple G's towards Level 10 so that things would not blow up on him. Maybe this is what is keeping the auto guys back?

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i guess the VB mod just isn't enough .... you need a level 10 tranny cough $3200 cough ... and then the price of turbo .... there has to be another way
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Re: why is turbo knocked for auto's

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why isn't turbo on an automatic encouraged .. instead people knock it
Trannys blow up
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Re: Re: why is turbo knocked for auto's

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Trannys blow up
that must really suck
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Re: Re: Re: why is turbo knocked for auto's

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that must really suck
Not designed for boost, must be reinforced
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Originally posted by hlh0501
As long as their tranny is built to hold it, go for it...

if any auto comes to KY, I would gladly have the kit fitted to their car, and would love to see what an auto max could do !
You know I don't live that far away.... how much down time is needed for a 5spd?
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Originally posted by Victim64


You know I don't live that far away.... how much down time is needed for a 5spd?
We have a convert
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if the manual tranny is stronger than the auto tranny ... what parts are so different that make the auto inferior in strength to the manual ..
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Originally posted by Conrad283
if the manual tranny is stronger than the auto tranny ... what parts are so different that make the auto inferior in strength to the manual ..
the parts are more prone to wearing out
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Originally posted by Cutlr7


the parts are more prone to wearing out
so what you're saying is the manual tranny is more durable
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Originally posted by Conrad283


so what you're saying is the manual tranny is more durable
Seems to be according to most
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Originally posted by Cutlr7


Seems to be according to most
i'm going to have to find a way to change that
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Originally posted by Conrad283


i'm going to have to find a way to change that
go for it

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Originally posted by Cutlr7


go for it

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too much money
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Originally posted by Conrad283


too much money
spend it
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Originally posted by Cutlr7


spend it
i wish i had 3200 to spend on a transmission .... and then 4200 on turbo .... hopefully with my new job i'll either have that or a 2003 6-spd S/C'd with turbo ...
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Originally posted by Conrad283


i wish i had 3200 to spend on a transmission .... and then 4200 on turbo .... hopefully with my new job i'll even have that or a 2003 6-spd S/C'd with turbo ...
nice choices
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I don't understand this cause there are s/c auto's pushn around 270 hp and there tranny's are holdn up fine with just the vb and tranny cooler so i don't see why a turbo auto won't with low to moderate boost. I dunno i guess we will find out. I am planning on doing my auto in the spring when i get my tax check. I might have pfi do it or i may have hlh0501 do it. I am also gonna talk to another shop that has opened in colorado and see if they can do it for any cheaper. But expect my car to be turbo charged by the spring and we'll see if my tranny will hold up to the boost.
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hmm SC would be nice
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Originally posted by dafro
I don't understand this cause there are s/c auto's pushn around 270 hp and there tranny's are holdn up fine with just the vb and tranny cooler so i don't see why a turbo auto won't with low to moderate boost. I dunno i guess we will find out. I am planning on doing my auto in the spring when i get my tax check. I might have pfi do it or i may have hlh0501 do it. I am also gonna talk to another shop that has opened in colorado and see if they can do it for any cheaper. But expect my car to be turbo charged by the spring and we'll see if my tranny will hold up to the boost.
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how many miles do you have on the tranny
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Originally posted by dafro
I don't understand this cause there are s/c auto's pushn around 270 hp and there tranny's are holdn up fine with just the vb and tranny cooler so i don't see why a turbo auto won't with low to moderate boost. I dunno i guess we will find out. I am planning on doing my auto in the spring when i get my tax check. I might have pfi do it or i may have hlh0501 do it. I am also gonna talk to another shop that has opened in colorado and see if they can do it for any cheaper. But expect my car to be turbo charged by the spring and we'll see if my tranny will hold up to the boost.
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True, turboed engines deal with lower psi than SC'd engines, so it doesn't make sense that the tranny would have problems with a turbo if it works fine with an SC.
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Originally posted by Conrad283


how many miles do you have on the tranny

I have 43000 on the tranny right now, i bought the car with 36000 in Jan, so i don't drive a whole lot. Hopefully my tranny will be fine after the turbo
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Originally posted by Conrad283


how much?
auto prices would be similar to 5spd ones, can be found at http://www.hlh0501.com/turbo.htm

as far as down time.. on an auto, I would need the car for probably around one week - maybe a little more , little less.. 5spd car=2-5days we do hope.
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Originally posted by hlh0501


auto prices would be similar to 5spd ones, can be found at http://www.hlh0501.com/turbo.htm

as far as down time.. on an auto, I would need the car for probably around one week - maybe a little more , little less.. 5spd car=2-5days we do hope.
i wish i could, i really do, but i just don't have the funds right now
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Once mine is paid off it might be really hard not going for the turbo if I can swing the money.

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Originally posted by hlh0501


auto prices would be similar to 5spd ones, can be found at http://www.hlh0501.com/turbo.htm

as far as down time.. on an auto, I would need the car for probably around one week - maybe a little more , little less.. 5spd car=2-5days we do hope.

So installation is free?
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So installation is free?

yep .. all you have to do is drive down to KY
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Originally posted by Conrad283

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So installation is free?
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yep .. all you have to do is drive down to KY

exactly. free install in KY.
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Anyway that there could be a discount on the first Auto Max to get the kit, or if they was a bunch of guys that came at once, any place to stay while in Kentucky.
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S/c dies, car cant run

Turbo dies, car can run


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i guess im one of the only if not the only one that has ever turboed an auto Max. Coming from experince, i wouldnt recommend it. even with a valvebody upgrade i blew my tranny. YOu guys should see the pics of those lil magnet things that have in the pan.

i dunno if this affects wear on the tranny more, usually turbos put out more torque then a supercharger, also turbos run hotter then superchargers.
The plantenary gears in the auto trans is actaully really strong, i think its the clutchs and bands that always fail.
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
i guess im one of the only if not the only one that has ever turboed an auto Max. Coming from experince, i wouldnt recommend it. even with a valvebody upgrade i blew my tranny. YOu guys should see the pics of those lil magnet things that have in the pan.

i dunno if this affects wear on the tranny more, usually turbos put out more torque then a supercharger, also turbos run hotter then superchargers.
The plantenary gears in the auto trans is actaully really strong, i think its the clutchs and bands that always fail.
so the only way to go is a level 10 tranny
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
i guess im one of the only if not the only one that has ever turboed an auto Max. Coming from experince, i wouldnt recommend it. even with a valvebody upgrade i blew my tranny. YOu guys should see the pics of those lil magnet things that have in the pan.

i dunno if this affects wear on the tranny more, usually turbos put out more torque then a supercharger, also turbos run hotter then superchargers.
The plantenary gears in the auto trans is actaully really strong, i think its the clutchs and bands that always fail.
im just curious as to how long did it take for your tranny to go, also how many miles where on it before it went. Also at what level of boost where you at when it blew. im just askn cause when i plan on doin this i will keep the boost low around 4-5 psi for daily driving.
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