Boost and Nitrous (wet vs. dry)
Boost and Nitrous (wet vs. dry)
I had a dry NOS kit before the SC, so I know the in's and out's of how nitrous works.
Which would make more sense in a boosted application. Wet is great because it supplies extra fuel _with_ the nitrous (which IIRC is how Hal's setup works). However, with proper injectors (Z32) and tuning, you should be able to deliver plenty of fuel without needing a wet kit...so would a dry kit be better? I would assume its easier.
Also...with a dry kit I would think you'd need a AFC with 2 settings...boost only and boost + nitrous. With a wet kit I suppose that you wouldn't necessasrly need that if you provide the correct amount of fuel with the nitrous.
Just brainstorming.
Which would make more sense in a boosted application. Wet is great because it supplies extra fuel _with_ the nitrous (which IIRC is how Hal's setup works). However, with proper injectors (Z32) and tuning, you should be able to deliver plenty of fuel without needing a wet kit...so would a dry kit be better? I would assume its easier.
Also...with a dry kit I would think you'd need a AFC with 2 settings...boost only and boost + nitrous. With a wet kit I suppose that you wouldn't necessasrly need that if you provide the correct amount of fuel with the nitrous.
Just brainstorming.
Eric the S-AFCII has two settings which you would want to use with either wet or dry.
Even with the more precision A/F mixture of the wet shot the S-AFC will still allow much more precise tuning, even the stock engine N/A can benefit from tuning the A/F.
Even with the more precision A/F mixture of the wet shot the S-AFC will still allow much more precise tuning, even the stock engine N/A can benefit from tuning the A/F.
Originally Posted by Jime
Eric the S-AFCII has two settings which you would want to use with either wet or dry.
Even with the more precision A/F mixture of the wet shot the S-AFC will still allow much more precise tuning, even the stock engine N/A can benefit from tuning the A/F.
Even with the more precision A/F mixture of the wet shot the S-AFC will still allow much more precise tuning, even the stock engine N/A can benefit from tuning the A/F.
Does NX offer a "cheater" type wet kit? Like a 5lb bottle? I'd only use this at the track...which is not often at all. I'd bet a 5lb bottle could almost last me a season.
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Originally Posted by ejj
Yeah, but I've got an S-AFC I...I guess I'd need to upgrade. :/
Does NX offer a "cheater" type wet kit? Like a 5lb bottle? I'd only use this at the track...which is not often at all. I'd bet a 5lb bottle could almost last me a season.
Does NX offer a "cheater" type wet kit? Like a 5lb bottle? I'd only use this at the track...which is not often at all. I'd bet a 5lb bottle could almost last me a season.
Let me know when you want to upgrade to a SAFC II? I just missed Golden glorys SAFC1 for sale
I may take that one off your hands if your really serious about getting a 2.
Originally Posted by subs1000w
how does wet cool the cylinder temp more than dry
Because atomized fuel and N2O are coming into the intake valve instead of just N2O. N2O by itself can cool the overall cylinder temp some, but combined with the fuel it drops more...
Originally Posted by Quicksilver
Because atomized fuel and N2O are coming into the intake valve instead of just N2O. N2O by itself can cool the overall cylinder temp some, but combined with the fuel it drops more...
Maybe becuase the fuel is helping to cool the actual air coming into the intake valve also?
Originally Posted by IwANnAMaX96
But does it really matter where the fuel is coming from?? A dry setup gets additional fuel also, just from the injectors. Am i missing something??

Originally Posted by Shadow
Maybe becuase the fuel is helping to cool the actual air coming into the intake valve also?
Originally Posted by CullenJ76
wouldn't a dry shot+ boost be ALOT harder to tune than a wet.
seems as if it might not be as "hard" to tune running a dry shot/boost, but rather troublesome with alot more areas you'll have to "tune". I've always heard that a dry fogger kit+boost was a nono. Seems alot more simple with the wet kit route, with less troubles and worries, but this is all my opinion
Originally Posted by CullenJ76
seems as if it might not be as "hard" to tune running a dry shot/boost, but rather troublesome with alot more areas you'll have to "tune". I've always heard that a dry fogger kit+boost was a nono. Seems alot more simple with the wet kit route, with less troubles and worries, but this is all my opinion 

If I do this, I'm just going to get a wet kit though.
Regardless of why you're adding it, if the N2O is going into the combustion chamber, then you have to add fuel to compensate...
Fuel is already hard enough to keep in check with the forced induction setup, so adding another taxing event to the injectors is just not a good idea IMHO. A wet kit eliminates all that worry...and there's no tuning involved (other than making sure you have the fuel setup to supprt the additional power). Tuning is done for you via the charts available.
Fuel is already hard enough to keep in check with the forced induction setup, so adding another taxing event to the injectors is just not a good idea IMHO. A wet kit eliminates all that worry...and there's no tuning involved (other than making sure you have the fuel setup to supprt the additional power). Tuning is done for you via the charts available.
Originally Posted by sleepermaxima
Has anyone ran boost with a dry shot yet? 

I dynoed my 99 with stock pulley at 236 last October cold engine off the bottle and 254.7 on with ZEX Dry kit : jets at about a 35-40 shot range untuned...so I was pleased with the results.
Originally Posted by WizzaMax
I dynoed my 99 with stock pulley at 236 last October cold engine off the bottle and 254.7 on with ZEX Dry kit : jets at about a 35-40 shot range untuned...so I was pleased with the results.
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