Need Blueprint of a 4th Gen turbo kit.
02-15-2005, 04:34 PM
#1
Need Blueprint of a 4th Gen turbo kit.
Hey, i was looking around and figured that i wana build my own turbo with a little help from the org and Alex. Well make the long story short i wana get an idea of the pipes diameter, length, and degrees of bend etc.... I have a blue print based on this pic you see. Welding will be done. I basically need a write on what i stated. Pics and general outline would be appriciated. BTW Its a 5 speed 1995 Maxima. thanks again.
02-15-2005, 06:27 PM
#2
buy some bends and pipes and flanges oil lines fittings random nuts and bolts some fuel nessesities and call it a day. personally i wish i could just make an up-pipe downpipe oil lines and charge piping and be done why does it have to be more complicated?
02-15-2005, 07:00 PM
#3
I am, planning to use this same setup you have a picture of there, but i will modify it a little... You see that red pipe that carries exhaust gasses from headers? it seems kind of long and will generate more turbo lag. what i want to do is reverse the rear heared pipe so that both right and left bank of cylinders would join into one pipe directly underneath the engine and from there go back up into the engine compartment. I will go try to modify that pic to show what i want to do...
02-15-2005, 07:04 PM
#4
you cant do that...its shaped like that for a reason, GROUND CLEARANCE. think about it and if you have to, look under your engine to see that it would be hitting every drivway good thinking though
02-15-2005, 08:24 PM
#7
Originally Posted by FriscoMaxima
there... see, the joint will be pointing towards the driver's wheel and the pipe will go straight up to where the battery usually is...
This the thing, engine moves constantly that why we have flex section. The drawing you have need a flex section welded on or it will snap and damage pipes. Good brainstorming.
This Pipe would work but, i am trying to minimize turbo lag. Getting evey HP as posible.
Any ideas would be helpful.
BTW when we get measurements would anyone be intrested purchasing custom made pipes.
02-15-2005, 08:36 PM
#8
BTW, If anyone is intrested and would like to help on the project please contact me. Only if you serious. I can get my hands on pipes, i know machine shops, and also i can get welding equipment. I live in PA. NJ, NY,MD, PA, CT people are welcome to take a shot at this. Trying to get many people on this project, meaning cheaper for each person.
02-15-2005, 08:40 PM
#9
if there was just a pipe kit available, i would love to get my hands on it, especially the segment that goes from a turbo to the cat. if someone would be able to fabricate each pipe separately, it would be awesome....
02-15-2005, 08:48 PM
#10
Originally Posted by FriscoMaxima
if there was just a pipe kit available, i would love to get my hands on it, especially the segment that goes from a turbo to the cat. if someone would be able to fabricate each pipe separately, it would be awesome....
We are in the process of fabricating complete setup pipes. Will keep you informed.
02-15-2005, 08:50 PM
#11
Originally Posted by FriscoMaxima
there... see, the joint will be pointing towards the driver's wheel and the pipe will go straight up to where the battery usually is...
02-15-2005, 09:00 PM
#13
Originally Posted by JeffesonM
anybody know who did that autocad-type picture?
Click Here...
02-15-2005, 09:16 PM
#14
Originally Posted by Requin6
yeah you are going to have a problem getting around the tranny with the pipe feeding in that direction.
02-15-2005, 09:31 PM
#16
Originally Posted by Magikone69
id love to have just a piping kit, that way each persons kit is more of a custom kit. i know its early but any idea on pricing. is this strictly for 5spd
We are currently working on a 5 speed. I know later down the road we might have an auto version.
02-15-2005, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Magikone69
id love to have just a piping kit, that way each persons kit is more of a custom kit. i know its early but any idea on pricing. is this strictly for 5spd
Alex
02-15-2005, 10:10 PM
#20
Originally Posted by Broaner
What is so wrong with the tried and true reverse Y?
02-15-2005, 10:35 PM
#28
Originally Posted by FriscoMaxima
that piture is VERY close to what i want. Who made it for you?
Got it off the website. We are trying to get a best setup to work, without the hassle of relocating. Basically Plug and play.
02-15-2005, 11:52 PM
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I now have the piping that was made from that CAD pic. On_Alert desinged and fabricated it. Had it installed for a short time. Sold it to Nealoc187 but never installed it. Sold it to me and it will be on my car shortly.
Here is a better pic of the pipes I recently took.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d/112_1266.jpg
Here is a better pic of the pipes I recently took.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d/112_1266.jpg
02-15-2005, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
I now have the piping that was made from that CAD pic. On_Alert desinged and fabricated it. Had it installed for a short time. Sold it to Nealoc187 but never installed it. Sold it to me and it will be on my car shortly.
Here is a better pic of the pipes I recently took.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d/112_1266.jpg
Here is a better pic of the pipes I recently took.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d/112_1266.jpg
I think it is time to get thoughs pipes painted with Jet Hot or something.
02-16-2005, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Royal_T
I think it is time to get thoughs pipes painted with Jet Hot or something.
02-16-2005, 07:20 AM
#34
And with a properly sized turbo, lag is still minimal. With the Uturn pipe like that, I'm still seeing full boost by ~3200 on a pretty big turbo. The other setup we built used a smaller turbo and he saw full boost at ~2800. In theory, yes of course a shorter pipe is better, but in reality it's not as big of a difference as you think.
After I get my current setup tuned at 12psi, I'll probably rework all the pipes to the reverse Y setup but with the turbo on the passenger side like Hal. It would require new fans and a custom radiator, but I think that's a worthwhile sacrifice to essentially eliminate about 6 ft. of feed and intercooler piping.
After I get my current setup tuned at 12psi, I'll probably rework all the pipes to the reverse Y setup but with the turbo on the passenger side like Hal. It would require new fans and a custom radiator, but I think that's a worthwhile sacrifice to essentially eliminate about 6 ft. of feed and intercooler piping.
Originally Posted by FriscoMaxima
look at the length of that thing... there's a lotta air that needs to be compressed before the car starts boosting. that is why the perfect place for a turbo is on a header...
02-16-2005, 10:21 AM
#36
Originally Posted by Shadow
And with a properly sized turbo, lag is still minimal. With the Uturn pipe like that, I'm still seeing full boost by ~3200 on a pretty big turbo. The other setup we built used a smaller turbo and he saw full boost at ~2800. In theory, yes of course a shorter pipe is better, but in reality it's not as big of a difference as you think.
After I get my current setup tuned at 12psi, I'll probably rework all the pipes to the reverse Y setup but with the turbo on the passenger side like Hal. It would require new fans and a custom radiator, but I think that's a worthwhile sacrifice to essentially eliminate about 6 ft. of feed and intercooler piping.
After I get my current setup tuned at 12psi, I'll probably rework all the pipes to the reverse Y setup but with the turbo on the passenger side like Hal. It would require new fans and a custom radiator, but I think that's a worthwhile sacrifice to essentially eliminate about 6 ft. of feed and intercooler piping.
Does anyone have pictures of Hal's setup?
02-16-2005, 02:12 PM
#37
What psi is "full boost" and for which turbos again?
Originally Posted by Shadow
And with a properly sized turbo, lag is still minimal. With the Uturn pipe like that, I'm still seeing full boost by ~3200 on a pretty big turbo. The other setup we built used a smaller turbo and he saw full boost at ~2800. In theory, yes of course a shorter pipe is better, but in reality it's not as big of a difference as you think.
02-16-2005, 07:10 PM
#40
Originally Posted by Tman6429
Hey, i was looking around and figured that i wana build my own turbo with a little help from the org and Alex. Well make the long story short i wana get an idea of the pipes diameter, length, and degrees of bend etc.... I have a blue print based on this pic you see. Welding will be done. I basically need a write on what i stated. Pics and general outline would be appriciated. BTW Its a 5 speed 1995 Maxima. thanks again.
Pick a thread.... this one, the one in the fourth gen forum, or a new thread...
There is going to be to much cross posting. Pick what you wana do and let me know in 24 hrs.