Need advice on injectors/fuel pump
Originally Posted by dadiesel
I just need to know whether or not it is a waste to buy injectors and a new fuel pump, with running only 3.25'' pulley.
Originally Posted by chris'smax
i don't think it would be a waste to get the injectors because like it or not your going to drop to a smaller pulley.
I'm not sure what my fuel pressure is at any boost
. Never been dyno'd or anything (assuming you can tell that from a dyno). Is the pump mentioned above 'Gss342' the right one for my year? Also, how long of an install is a fuel pump? I feel so lost all the time about this fuel man. stuff. When the pump is installed, is it still cool to use the same disc in my FMU?
. Never been dyno'd or anything (assuming you can tell that from a dyno). Is the pump mentioned above 'Gss342' the right one for my year? Also, how long of an install is a fuel pump? I feel so lost all the time about this fuel man. stuff. When the pump is installed, is it still cool to use the same disc in my FMU?
Originally Posted by dadiesel
Thanks for the info. Now can someone verify that the pump specified above 'Gss342' is the correct one for an 01'?
I think that is correct and you want the HP model. Check latinmax's homepage for the HOW To
The fuel pump is a good idea, since the Walbro is sufficient for all fuel requirements. You don't need a booster pump. Any booster pump, relay or wiring fault under boost could lead to a lean condition and blowed-up motor.
The fuel pressure is not controlled by the Walbro, but by the FMU. My understanding is that the pressure will not change with addition of the Walbro, but your maximum potential pressure, supply volume and reliability will all go up.
The injectors are needed when a smaller pulley would require too much pressure or too high duty cycle for the stock injectors to be reliable. Larger injectors with a walbro and some upgraded fuel management can give you lowered pressures, duty cycles, better reliability and tunability.
I'd buy a walbro, fuel pressure gauge and cartech FMU; all from ebay. You can sell your Vortech FMU and t-rex pump to help offset what the Cartech / Begi will cost. Pop on the smaller pulley, and dyno tune with the Cartech. If the required pressures freak you out (over 100psi?) then you can look at larger injectors; but I'm told you can use your stock injectors down to 3.125". I bought injectors just 'cause I got a good deal, and I know that I will keep on going and going with more boost. I certainly don't need them right now.
Chris' Max is doing same stuff as well; all 5th gen. Let's keep in touch!
The fuel pressure is not controlled by the Walbro, but by the FMU. My understanding is that the pressure will not change with addition of the Walbro, but your maximum potential pressure, supply volume and reliability will all go up.
The injectors are needed when a smaller pulley would require too much pressure or too high duty cycle for the stock injectors to be reliable. Larger injectors with a walbro and some upgraded fuel management can give you lowered pressures, duty cycles, better reliability and tunability.
I'd buy a walbro, fuel pressure gauge and cartech FMU; all from ebay. You can sell your Vortech FMU and t-rex pump to help offset what the Cartech / Begi will cost. Pop on the smaller pulley, and dyno tune with the Cartech. If the required pressures freak you out (over 100psi?) then you can look at larger injectors; but I'm told you can use your stock injectors down to 3.125". I bought injectors just 'cause I got a good deal, and I know that I will keep on going and going with more boost. I certainly don't need them right now.
Chris' Max is doing same stuff as well; all 5th gen. Let's keep in touch!
I already have the fuel pressure gauge ordered, and I'm ordering the Walbro tomorrow. What is a T-Rex pump? Also, what exactly is the Cartech FMU, and Begi, and is it a universal or MAxima specific part? Sorry if these are dumb questions.
Is this the cartech model that you're talking about... http://www.cartech.net/fmu2020.htm
The main difference is that the cartech / begi FMU is adjustable with a twist of a screw; making tuning very easy. The Vortech requires you to dissassemble it and put in different disks for different rates. Making tuning hard(er).
Bought my Begi on ebay for $189. Sells for $259 at www.bellengineering.net Walbro was $90. I expect (hope) to sell combination of vortech FMU and pump for ~$150; so it's not too expensive when it's all done.
The bell engineering site has a better explanation, and tuning instructions.
Bought my Begi on ebay for $189. Sells for $259 at www.bellengineering.net Walbro was $90. I expect (hope) to sell combination of vortech FMU and pump for ~$150; so it's not too expensive when it's all done.
The bell engineering site has a better explanation, and tuning instructions.
Originally Posted by mhadford
The fuel pump is a good idea, since the Walbro is sufficient for all fuel requirements. You don't need a booster pump. Any booster pump, relay or wiring fault under boost could lead to a lean condition and blowed-up motor.
The fuel pressure is not controlled by the Walbro, but by the FMU. My understanding is that the pressure will not change with addition of the Walbro, but your maximum potential pressure, supply volume and reliability will all go up.
The fuel pressure is not controlled by the Walbro, but by the FMU. My understanding is that the pressure will not change with addition of the Walbro, but your maximum potential pressure, supply volume and reliability will all go up.
The fuel pressure will change when a the Walbro fuel pump is added. It bumps up idle and WOT fuel pressure by about 6-7 psi. But it does not increase fuel pressure base on boost after that like an FMU will.
Originally Posted by mhadford
The injectors are needed when a smaller pulley would require too much pressure or too high duty cycle for the stock injectors to be reliable. Larger injectors with a walbro and some upgraded fuel management can give you lowered pressures, duty cycles, better reliability and tunability.
I'd buy a walbro, fuel pressure gauge and cartech FMU; all from ebay. You can sell your Vortech FMU and t-rex pump to help offset what the Cartech / Begi will cost. Pop on the smaller pulley, and dyno tune with the Cartech. If the required pressures freak you out (over 100psi?) then you can look at larger injectors; but I'm told you can use your stock injectors down to 3.125". I bought injectors just 'cause I got a good deal, and I know that I will keep on going and going with more boost. I certainly don't need them right now.
Chris' Max is doing same stuff as well; all 5th gen. Let's keep in touch!
I'd buy a walbro, fuel pressure gauge and cartech FMU; all from ebay. You can sell your Vortech FMU and t-rex pump to help offset what the Cartech / Begi will cost. Pop on the smaller pulley, and dyno tune with the Cartech. If the required pressures freak you out (over 100psi?) then you can look at larger injectors; but I'm told you can use your stock injectors down to 3.125". I bought injectors just 'cause I got a good deal, and I know that I will keep on going and going with more boost. I certainly don't need them right now.
Chris' Max is doing same stuff as well; all 5th gen. Let's keep in touch!
Originally Posted by dadiesel
thats what I was asking above...Whats the diff between Vortechs SFMU and Cartechs?
I just told you.
Vortech regular FMU. Controls fuel pressure via boost using different size disks for different rising rates. The unit has to be opend and disks replaceds to change the rising rate. Base fuel pressure cannot be changed, and aftermarket fuel pressure regulator has to be used.
Cartech FMU. Controls fuel pressure rising rate via a screw on top of the unit. No disks to mess with. A aftermarket fuel pressure regulator has to be used to adjust base fuel pressure
Super Vortech FMU. Uses a screw on top of the unit for the rising rate just like the cartech, but can also adjust base fuel pressure. The best of both worlds.
Cartech/Begi also makes a super fmu with a base fuel pressure adjustment. I bought a JDM SARD FPR to replace the stock one, got a good deal and it looks cool. Ended up cheaper than paying the difference between regular and super Begi. Also has a handy fitting for fuel pressure gauge sender attachment. Now if only the instructions were in english....
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