So, looks like turbonetics sells crap turbo's to PFI, or it may be deeper than that, I don't know.

Me, Jay and Eric all paid an additional 600 bucks for the ball bearing upgrade to our turbo's, and all 3 of our turbo's failed within the first month as far as leaking oil goes. So the only guy that has/had? a T4/T04e BB (orange backed) turbo that hasnt failed in the first month was kevin.

I just now got around to sending my turbo to turbonetics -i shipped it next day air - for 120 bucks. Supposedly they are finishing on monday and shipping it out the same day; I asked to be reimbursed for my shipping expenses, or have them ship next day as I did at the least.

Needless to say, I got the finger from turbonetics on that one. Customer service is pretty rude at turbonetics... even the way they answer the phone, they have a tone with ya.

I really regret selling my v1 at times like this.

 

that sucks. 120 is steep. where is turbonetics?

 

Turbonetics
2255 Agate court
Simi Valley, CA 93065

 

i have a friend who bought a brand new turbonetics turbo and found food in the compressor

needless to say i'd personally never get anything from turbonetics in the future. my wastegate has been complete hell.

 

What about mardi?

And the supra folks like them, from what I have read, but I understand.. I saw jay's turbo 1st hand

 

supra folks prefer other brands besides turbonetics...

pfi has had decent service with me, but it may just be them that has these bad turbo's... to be honest with you, my turbo compressor was clean, but definately looked like it was mishandled because of the scratches on it.



IMHO, it may be that the "new" turbo's arent exactly as new as we all think.

 

so is the PFI Turbo Kit worth getting or no?

 

Ive had no problems, they were very helpfull in talking about the turbo specs.

 

I know of at least 10 turbonetics turbos that took a **** within a few months of purchase last year in Atlanta alone. One reputable DSM shop is on their 3rd or 4th replacement from them in that many months. I personally would steer clear if making a new purchase. The upside is everyone I've heard of having problems was able to get help/replacements from Turbonetics, so they have been recognizing that there is a problem.

 

I hope Frank doesnt have problems he got the BB upgrade too and has not yet installed the kit.

 

It's pretty well known that turbonetics is not exactly the best turbo company out there. They are a big company so lots of people have their turbos... but it's pretty rare to find a high dollar car running a turbonetics turbo.

 

All turbo companies have their problems... sounds like Turbonetics is having more than others though I personally like Precision turbos, but still it is not uncommon to hear of them blowing up before 10k miles. A few weeks ago in a last minute effort to get ready for the supra nationals in TX, it took overnighting 3 GT42R's before one worked. :/

On a side note, I wish someone would try a SP74 (PTE 74mm) on a maxima! Combined with C16 and a little boost, domination!

 

D@mn that's sad to hear you got problem with your turbo so early.
So are you having the orange back?Where did you tap your rt line?Now I worry about this turbo of my too.

 

yup gettin the orange back... return line tapped @ bottem right corner of valve cover - i'm thinking of running an electric oil pump to pump the oil back up there.

 

How do you feel about SSAutochrome turbo's?

 

what, that they use elmer's to put them together?

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ighlight=turbo

 

I remember about a year or so ago reading ebay feedback on SSAutochrome, someone complained about buying a manifold from them and it not lining up and not receiving the correct hardware. SS's response was something like "wah wah you little baby, why don't you take mommies *** out of your mouth and go to the f-ing hardware store. Shut the f- up." Not worth dealing with stuff like that to save a few bucks.

 

Are you sure it was a turbo failure? Its common for turbos with bad oil drainage to leak oil past the seals when there is pressure from the drain line (backed up oil). This is especially true if you do not run an oil restrictor in your feed line. Are you running an oil restrictor? Not trying to bash the kit, but draining the oil into the valve cover is an awful idea to start with.

 

For one, the oil drains fine.
Second, the turbo has a built in oil restrictor.

 

yup gettin the orange back... return line tapped @ bottem right corner of valve cover - i'm thinking of running an electric oil pump to pump the oil back up there.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about here? Are you saying that you need the electric oil pump to pump the oil into the valve cover when it already "drains fine."? Why would that be?

 

What are you talking about here? Are you saying that you need the electric oil pump to pump the oil into the valve cover when it already "drains fine."? Why would that be?[/QUOTE]

It drains ok on perfectly level ground. Where I park my car sometimes, it's on a hill, so it may not drain as well. If I get the electric pump, I plan on having the drain go straight out the bottem , and have the electric pump push the oil back up to the valve cover.

 

I would say no. The wife's Integra has a manifold from them, and it's holding up fine. But a welded manifold and turbo are very different things. I've read all the bad stuff about their turbos, quality control seems to be non existant.

And recently, a customer fabbed a custom turbo for his Acura TL and used one of their turbos. The turbine actually shattered within a week. When they pulled it apart, there were parts missing from the fins and so on. Not just a little chipping, large parts missing. Not sure if it was a bad turbine, or if they left some sort of foreign debris in the turbo. He's trying to warranty it right now, so we'll see.

 

I have ran a few Turbonetics turbos and all within 2k miles i started to have problems. Hell, they took over 2 months to ship my exhaust turbine.

So I just went to using the Garret turbos. Nothing like a GT40.

 

Are the flanges different? Or is it all cut/ re-weld?

 

What is the benefit of draining into the VC? What is so hard about tapping the pan?

 

Valve cover is easier to remove, tap, and reinstall...

 

There are different turbin bolt patterns (where the exhaust turbine meets the downpipe). There was the old "Ford 5bolt" style, but they now use either the 4 or 6 bolt pattern or V camp depending on your needs/setup.

 

Got my turbo back - looks like my old turbo got owned. I got sent a new center cartridge, turbine, with my old compressor housing. I must have cooked somethin pretty good.

Anyway, tomorrow I reinstall the bad boy, this time with an oil scavenge pump for extra precaution

 

I'm glad you got your turbo back.What's this oil scavenge pump,was it the electric pump you use to push the oil back up into the valve cover?Newbie to the turbo stuff.

So how many people here with turbo use the pressure sending unit to feed their turbo?Are this oil pressure strong enough?

How many with turbo tap the oil rt into their valve cover or into upper oil pan,thanx!

 

Mine is getting the feed at the oil pressure sending unit and return is tapped to the lower oil pan.

 

On the electric oil pump - exactly.

I think everyone here is using the port at the bottem of the oil pan and t'ing off of the oil pressure sending unit... Trust me, it's got PLENTY of pressure there.

 

I drilled and tapped an upper oil pan last week. It was not that hard. If you want to save yourself weeks of BS, take 2-3 hours and just tap your upper oil pan. Its not hard at all. You dont even have to remove the upper oil pan. You just remove the lower oil pan, run clean oil thru the return line to pick up any shavings. The upper oil pan is very very thin. Just start with a small bit and work your way to the large on. Youll be amazed at how easy it is once your done. Just ensure you reseal the lower oil pan with permagrey!!!

 

LOL!I know the upper oil pan was pretty ez to get to,after when you remove the lower oil pan,I already change out both rear main seals on my 95 5sp and 96 auto.Well I just don't know they're that much better for the oil rt for the turbo.

Any chance you got the pics of this or link where I can get this,thanx!

 

I apologize for my basic questions.

So how do you know if a turbo is leaking exactly? Where does it leak from and go to?

What are the side effects of a turbo leaking? Does the oil pressure drop and all your oil run out? Does it run out into the engine bay, into the engine, or out the exhaust?

 

Mine was leaking outside of the housing... all over the left side of the car under the hood. It was also leaking past the seals inside to where I had oil leaking into the exhaust - and 5x as much into the pressurized piping.

Oil pressure dropping isn't that big of a deal for mine.... I was using maybe a 1/4 qt every 2 wks or so. I definately was checking my oil every other day.