Supercharged/Turbocharged The increase in air/fuel pressure above atmospheric pressure in the intake system caused by the action of a supercharger or turbocharger attached to an engine.

Dont flame me, but my boy said i could run the turbo before the cat? is is possible?

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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Dont flame me, but my boy said i could run the turbo before the cat? is is possible?

he said i could do a real ghetto job and get a small turbo and run it before the cat from the main exhaust pipe. i have a stock 12A turbo and intercooler from a mitsubishi conquest [starion] i mean i know i shouldnt go the ghetto cheap way but would it work? even if i made the turbo fit ont the y pipe?
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Step 1: Learn how a turbocharger works.

Step 2: Learn the dimensions of the chassis in question.

Step 3: Rethink the question.
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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I'm no turbo expert but what are the turbine and compressor #'s? What is a Conquest/Starion? What size engine do they have?

Yes, turbo always goes before the cat. My guess is that turbo is extremely small and will be way out of its effeciency. Sell it to someone. While, you're at it sell the IC too because it is most likely small and restrictive. The $300 you get off those things will get you a real IC. Then you just need about $2K worth of other stuff.
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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no the starion intercooler is a front mount and its not as small as a stock eclipse IC.

Taravish i was thinking about cutting away at the chasis??
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Broaner
I'm no turbo expert but what are the turbine and compressor #'s? What is a Conquest/Starion? What size engine do they have?

Yes, turbo always goes before the cat. My guess is that turbo is extremely small and will be way out of its effeciency. Sell it to someone. While, you're at it sell the IC too because it is most likely small and restrictive. The $300 you get off those things will get you a real IC. Then you just need about $2K worth of other stuff.
actually the starion/conquest intercoolers are heavily used in aftermarket setups due to their decent size. they aren't anything compared to the newer bar and plate setup as its an older tube and fin style, to my knowledge, but it would get the job done if you could fit it in there.



the turbo would be a bit too small though. an eclipse uses a 14g, i believe, which is bigger than a 12a.
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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actually they use a t25
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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man all my boys are all boosted, 5 civics, 3 integras, 4 eclipses, im like the only one who cant keep up, but the dam piping alone is too much money. my friend said he could get me a turbo kit for 2500 but im going to need someone to weld me pipes
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
he said i could do a real ghetto job and get a small turbo and run it before the cat from the main exhaust pipe. i have a stock 12A turbo and intercooler from a mitsubishi conquest [starion] i mean i know i shouldnt go the ghetto cheap way but would it work? even if i made the turbo fit ont the y pipe?

What in the ***** did you just say?

this thread makes my head hurt
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
he said i could do a real ghetto job and get a small turbo and run it before the cat from the main exhaust pipe. i have a stock 12A turbo and intercooler from a mitsubishi conquest [starion] i mean i know i shouldnt go the ghetto cheap way but would it work? even if i made the turbo fit ont the y pipe?
one...if you're tight on money, turbocharging your Maixma IS NOT the way to go, TRUST ME!

two...if you're tight on money going cheap IS NOT the way to go...when **** breaks, which IT WILL(especially since you're making an sh!tty setup), you'll be deeper in ****

either save up some money for a decent kit or go with nitrous...Maxima, cheap and turbo don't mix
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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i mean i read all the faqs for the past 2 days, now do you guys think that extra 500 dollars is worth it for the supecharger? i know when my friends are boosted they want more and more.
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
actually they use a t25
acually they use both

1g 90-94 DSM uses a 14G
2g 95-99 DSM uses a T25
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
i mean i read all the faqs for the past 2 days, now do you guys think that extra 500 dollars is worth it for the supecharger? i know when my friends are boosted they want more and more.
extra $500?

extra to what $2500

maybe $1500 used

your car will probobly be slower with that 12A turbo then without it
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 04:49 AM
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no i saw the sc for 3500 on stillen. Where can i get it cheaper?

i mean i could get a turbokit for 2500 with everyting, except for all those dam piping
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
no i saw the sc for 3500 on stillen. Where can i get it cheaper?

i mean i could get a turbokit for 2500 with everyting, except for all those dam piping

To my knowledge piping and welding is what is actually going to cost you a $hit load.

I say go ahead and buy a used SC setup. These can be found in really good condition for 2,500
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
no i saw the sc for 3500 on stillen. Where can i get it cheaper?

i mean i could get a turbokit for 2500 with everyting, except for all those dam piping
the piping is what makes the turbo a "kit". Basically you are paying $2500 for all the crap you can buy online thats universal fit. What all does this $2500 include that you speak of?

If you're tight on money stick to bolt ons and be slower bc once you start boosting **** starts breaking, and then you have a broke car with no money to fix it.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
once you start boosting **** starts breaking, and then you have a broke car with no money to fix it.
Ha thats me right now
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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i guess you guys are right, ill probably go all motor then i mean if i want a good boosted car i should buy one that is made to run with boost, like a dsm
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
acually they use both

1g 90-94 DSM uses a 14G
2g 95-99 DSM uses a T25
Actually its

1g auto uses a 13g
1g manual uses a 14b
all 2g use t25.
the 14b is the largest and most desirable of all of the three, many have made 300whp before nitrous. the 12a on the Starquests uses the Td05 compressor housing and the 8cm2 exhaust side, one of the smallest mitsu turbos and it only flows about 320 cfm, would definitely be too small to design a system around for this application. You will have a heck of a time selling it because most of the starquest guys upgrade to at least 16g.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
i guess you guys are right, ill probably go all motor then i mean if i want a good boosted car i should buy one that is made to run with boost, like a dsm
yea bc dsm's are really reliable...
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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The t25 is way too small for this engine.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
yea bc dsm's are really reliable...
I don't know why people have such a conception of them, the only time mine is down is when I'm upgrading (which is always) and it seems the same for everyone's. Plus they are sooo easy to work on and parts can be had cheap if you know where to look. Not to mention the only streetclass car that can compete w/ the Supras. But hey I'm partial
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by burtreynolds
I don't know why people have such a conception of them, the only time mine is down is when I'm upgrading (which is always) and it seems the same for everyone's. Plus they are sooo easy to work on and parts can be had cheap if you know where to look. Not to mention the only streetclass car that can compete w/ the Supras. But hey I'm partial
I've had a few friends with high hp DSM's, IE 400+whp and you really have to be careful with the car. It seemed like it was one thing after another when they had the cars running. Also Shepard dropped out of the class bc he wasn't competative in the BFG class in Nopi. The TH300-400 Supras are consistant low 8 sec cars(Efantis high 7's) where as his best ever was around 8.6 teritory I believe... His car is still sick for a manual somewhat streetable car, although with the manual gearbox he just can't be all that competative against AAP, Titan, MSP, and Battleground. He did finish high in the points last year but he also had 2-3 more events than any Supra. Well I've managed to go way OT...
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by burtreynolds
I don't know why people have such a conception of them, the only time mine is down is when I'm upgrading (which is always) and it seems the same for everyone's. Plus they are sooo easy to work on and parts can be had cheap if you know where to look. Not to mention the only streetclass car that can compete w/ the Supras. But hey I'm partial

Mustangs are doing ok at that

And the interior is crap, IMHO
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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I say save money and get one of these. http://www.turbo-kits.com/maxima_turbo_kits.html Now nothing is ghetto rigged.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
. Also Shepard dropped out of the class bc he wasn't competative in the BFG class in Nopi. .
Really he just could not drop enough weight to be competitive anymore is what it boils down to. I am good friends with the guy that builds Sheps engine programs, it may get interesting this year. Bags, the interior is one of the things I like, (EDIT: except for that elephant **** shift *** the 1g's came with ) kinda cockpit like, although the only thing left is the dash and console and a little carpet in mine.

Anyway back to topic, get some money, then turbo your car.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Quick questions where can i find a used supercharger and about the turbo kit does it come with all the pipeing necessary to install it?
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob01ski
Quick questions where can i find a used supercharger and about the turbo kit does it come with all the pipeing necessary to install it?
For the turbo kit click here It comes with everything you need. WHy spend over 3 grand on some kit if you had to do work.

Check out the F/s section for used superchargers.
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Also check your local speedshops for a blower. I found mine at a local place called Performance Pplus. They specialize in Ford and especially Mustangs. There should be plenty in Chi town.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Hey i think i know why his friends all said he could put it before the cat its because they all have 4 cylinders thus the turbo goes before the cat up front.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by burtreynolds
Really he just could not drop enough weight to be competitive anymore is what it boils down to. I am good friends with the guy that builds Sheps engine programs, it may get interesting this year. Bags, the interior is one of the things I like, (EDIT: except for that elephant **** shift *** the 1g's came with ) kinda cockpit like, although the only thing left is the dash and console and a little carpet in mine.

Anyway back to topic, get some money, then turbo your car.

I had a 94 talon, it felt nice and tight BUT, the interior is cheap. I know, most people gut it, but i like leather, nice seats, etc..



And the words BOOST and CHEAP can only be used properly in one sentence...

BOOST is NOT cheap
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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Hey i think i know why his friends all said he could put it before the cat its because they all have 4 cylinders thus the turbo goes before the cat up front.
All sensible turbo setups locate the turbine in front of the cat.
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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i love dsms though man, Bags honestly in my opinon boost is pretty cheap with a tsi talon. 4g63 with a nice t 28 motor and worked bottom end. most of my boys who run dsms end up have crank walk though
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