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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Digital Boost Gauge ?

Well after putting in my WB and having a digital readout on that, It got me thinking.

What do you guys think of a Digital Boost guage with memory ?? I know it could get kinda annoying if you look at it and try to see what its reading and miss it. but I kinda like it.

anyone have any experience having one, or a buddy has one ?
pros ?
cons ?

Looks like ya gotta spend about $125 to get one with memory


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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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bling>>>>>functionality/practicality IMO. personally I wouldn't go with it...analog is so much easier to read and use. constantly fluctuating numbers on the digital read out will get annoying IMO and kinda makes it hard to dicipher things as far as accuracy.

IMO digital gauges are only good for something that fluctuates less and has a more normal range like oil, fuel pressure or temp gauges.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Thats pretty. I found some from vci earlier this week when we talked. They have blue too.

Is that the cyberdyne? looks like it.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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Matty,

If you're dead sure you're going to get the EU, then you will want to get the Greddy P/H/W gauge, http://www.gruppe-s.com/Greddy/greddymeter.htm, since you can log/monitor the gauge with the EU.

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Alot, dare I say most, of the turbo guys used the Blitz DTT boost gauge/turbo timer.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Yay or nay, Matty?
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Well...I was figuring on logging boost through the EU with the pressure sensor and harness. I do like the idea of the digital boost gauge but I think it would get kind of annoying. It does look da*n cool, and the more and more i look at it, the more I wanna pick it up.
I am dead sure that I am getting the EU as long as the Crank signal gets worked out. I am ready to order right now lol.

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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I don't see why the crank issue would hold you back, but don't let me sway ya.

The pressure sensor and harness is ~$130 or so alone vs. the gauge/sensor/harness for $185 new or quite a bit less used off eBay. If you're going to log, I wouldn't buy someone elses gauge and then have to spend $130 or so on just the pressure sensor/harness.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I don't see why the crank issue would hold you back, but don't let me sway ya.
I was told, I cant play with it with boost yet, without crank signal readings. I dont wanna get it, and install it half way...then not be able to drive the car at all....plus if I wait, I can order everything all at once along with the modual we'll need for crank signal whatever all this means is beyond me..lol

Originally Posted by IceY2K1
The pressure sensor and harness is ~$130 or so alone vs. the gauge/sensor/harness for $185 new or quite a bit less used off eBay. If you're going to log, I wouldn't buy someone elses gauge and then have to spend $130 or so on just the pressure sensor/harness.
I have a boost gauge now, autometer CF, thats fully functional. It is a good idea to get the greddy but then all my gauges wont match on my pod. <--alittle funky....feedback ?

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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I want the zeitronix so that i can have the boost and every other measurment all on one display. My guage pod pissed me off because it was rattling so i ripped it off at a stop light
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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Always a good fix...I almost went with the Zietronix Unit, But im not a fan of how it looks..

am I wrong about the EU Ice ??

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
Always a good fix...I almost went with the Zietronix Unit, But im not a fan of how it looks..

am I wrong about the EU Ice ??

-matt

I wasn't either at first, but they came out with a all black display with white lighting which looks pretty cool.
Old Jan 18, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Get the PLX R500 or maybe even R300 then.

Originally Posted by chris'smax
I want the zeitronix so that i can have the boost and every other measurment all on one display. My guage pod pissed me off because it was rattling so i ripped it off at a stop light
Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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I still say the crank input isn't absolutely necessary to do anything I've tested so far(not everything, but enough for you), so I don't see why the hold up.

The crank input will be nice, since it will smooth RPM, display actual timing, and probably make the Rev-limiter change easier, but those aren't show stoppers IMO.

Nobody has found ANY features don't work except the ability to display actual timing. Again, the features I've tested seem to work and they along with the logging are more then enough reason IMHO to buy one. Whether you choose to buy now or wait who knows how long on Greddy is up to you.

As far as having to have all your gauges match as your primary concern is . I'm mix-n-matching, since no ONE company makes every gauge I want.

Originally Posted by matty

am I wrong about the EU Ice ??

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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I was told to hold off because I wont be able to retard timing without reading crank signal. Therefore I would have to wait.

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Not true....

Are you selling the JWT ECU?

Originally Posted by matty
I was told to hold off because I wont be able to retard timing without reading crank signal. Therefore I would have to wait.

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Not true....

Are you selling the JWT ECU?
Its gone

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Good......
Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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I really regret purchasing that...I had an EVAP code the entire time I had the ECU. Sent it to JWT without the code written down, and they couldnt even pull it from the ECU

Now emanage time.

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
I was told to hold off because I wont be able to retard timing without reading crank signal. Therefore I would have to wait.

-matt
Not sure who you talked to, it doesn't matter really, but Matty there was some uncertainty for a while as to what exactly worked and what didn't, especially earlier on. There were a lot of variables at play but thanks to Icey's more recent testing it seems more things work just using the tach signal than first thought, including retarding timing. We think it works now, but have no dyno proof, just datalogs to judge by.

Regardless, I pretty much agree with him that the EU is working well enough to make it a worthwhile purchase at this point. Especially since we know we will have crank functionality in the near future.
Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Emanage Blue could retard timing without a crank sensor reading. I don't see why EU couldn't. Right now if you are boosted then you really don't have to wait for EU since we are able to do just about everything except advance timing.
Old Jan 19, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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I like my two digital boost gauges alot. Blitz DTT and Greddy Profec B. The fluctuation is really not an issue at all. You hit peak boost and it stays there till you shift. Easy to read and not hard to miss. Being able to go back and see exact peak boost is very nice, although some analog ones have this as well. I don't really look at my boost gauge much when WOT anyhow. I go back and look at peak boost after a run but there is no point in watching it during the run since I know about what it is gonna hit anyhow. Only time I watch it during a run is if I made recent changes that would cause a change in boost.
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