Quaife group deal!
11-29-2006 | 06:18 PM
#41
Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I'm not giving anyone else my $$$ but Cattman, unless I see a finished product.
you do bring up a good point if we all make this deal happen with quaife. if we all send in our money individually, what if one or more individuals don't send in there cash promptly or even fall off the face of the org after we've already paid? hows about shipping? is quaife going to be willing to send orders out individually, or will this be a bulk shipment?
i almost prefer some professional representation on this deal so there's not so many what if's to be concerned about, even if it hikes up the price alittle. I let Brian from Cattman know about this thread so hopefully he chimes in soon.
and i wish i were a moderator for a day so i could move this thread over to the group deal forum already!
11-29-2006 | 06:34 PM
#42
Has to be an actual sponsor to be a group deal. In this case, it would be put in the group deal request since no sponsor has officially said there is a group deal.
Mike
Mike
Originally Posted by jac121479
as far as the Cattman deal, it's his deal, so there's no question as to who holds the cash.
you do bring up a good point if we all make this deal happen with quaife. if we all send in our money individually, what if one or more individuals don't send in there cash promptly or even fall off the face of the org after we've already paid? hows about shipping? is quaife going to be willing to send orders out individually, or will this be a bulk shipment?
i almost prefer some professional representation on this deal so there's not so many what if's to be concerned about, even if it hikes up the price alittle. I let Brian from Cattman know about this thread so hopefully he chimes in soon.
and i wish i were a moderator for a day so i could move this thread over to the group deal forum already!
you do bring up a good point if we all make this deal happen with quaife. if we all send in our money individually, what if one or more individuals don't send in there cash promptly or even fall off the face of the org after we've already paid? hows about shipping? is quaife going to be willing to send orders out individually, or will this be a bulk shipment?
i almost prefer some professional representation on this deal so there's not so many what if's to be concerned about, even if it hikes up the price alittle. I let Brian from Cattman know about this thread so hopefully he chimes in soon.
and i wish i were a moderator for a day so i could move this thread over to the group deal forum already!
11-29-2006 | 07:40 PM
#43
Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I would only do this if I could leave my down payment with Cattman. We've seen what happen previously with the D2 coilover deal. Too many crooks out there and I would hate to get my lawyer involved in a LSD thing, he might think its drugs.
I'm not giving anyone else my $$$ but Cattman, unless I see a finished product.
I'm not giving anyone else my $$$ but Cattman, unless I see a finished product.
11-29-2006 | 07:42 PM
#44
Originally Posted by jac121479
just to be clear, my understanding was full payment up front, not a down payment.
Lots of details, easy to get some mixed up, but I wouldn't require full payment, rather a "significant" downpayment - probably $500. Even at that, its still a stretch to invest even $500 in a product that doesn't exist yet... That's why this has been so difficult to get this together in the past. I've got some other stuff to mention, but I haven't read the whole thread yet.
Brian
11-30-2006 | 12:25 AM
#45
OK, good to see another wave of interest in a decent differential. Let me provide a little background.
When I commissioned the design and fabrication of the original batch of 35 Quaife ATB differentials for the Maxima 5-speed, the British Pound Sterling was worth USD1.35. The wholesale price/unit I paid for this very small manufacturing run was as much or more than what they charge retail for most of the units that are actually in their catalogue. We sold them for $1200-1300 and they didn't exactly fly off the shelf.
Interestingly, they did the entire development based on a differential and pair of axles I sent to the UK, the part had never been in a car until I installed the first one in mine (from a crate of 35). [Goes to show how intimately familiar they needed to be with the vehicle itself - its basically an engineering excercise relative to the gearbox, the vehicle is sort of irrelevant.] I had huge money in the deal, can you imagine the tension of waiting to see if it would work? Obviously it worked great, but it was an insane risk and not one that paid off very well - at those retail prices there wasn't much a profit margin we probably broke even over the time it took to sell them.
A worthy part was developed, but definitely more of a learning experience than a successful venture for us. The very last Quaife was made and sold last year. I got an inquiry from a rally prep team in NZ that had somehow determined that they needed this particular one, and price was no object. Contacted Quaife and they found about 80% of the parts they needed, and fabricated the rest - I was told there were no more.
Anyway, when I contacted QuaifeAmerica about a year ago, I was told that the minimum production order had increased to 35 (it was 25 before, I just had more made), and that the wholesale price had increased about 50% due to increased value of the pound (about $1.80-1.85 then) and routine price increases. This meant that I'd need to sell them for at least $1800/each to make it work, and I dropped the idea. And now it take $1.95 to buy a pound... Short of a sudden collapse in the British economy or a surge in ours + very different monetary and government debt policies, this doesn't seem like a viable proposition.
That said, maybe things have changed. When I dealt with QuaifeAmerica I dealt with one guy, and his name isn't the one I see mentioned in the thread. He would have answers to the questions being asked, so either he's gone (he'd been there a long time) or perhaps it was someone that wasn't close to the Quaife side of their operation (the larger company specialises in VW parts, QuaifeAmerica represents Quaife UK in the US, they are not actually part of Quaife). I can see from their website that the address is the same as when I dealt with them. [We used to be listed on their website, but eventually disappeared when it became clear that no one would be ordering more Maxima diffs.]
If its possible to have 10 or 15 of these made for $1000 each, that's great, but really surprising because it would mean that Quaife's prices and policies have changed dramatically (the US reps had no influence over Quaife prices/policies). That's substantially less than the unit price they quoted a year ago for making a minimum of 35!
If you've read up to here, then you see why we (Cattman Performance) are cautious about getting into something like this again. I've had a standing offer to "arrange" a differential deal for a year or two, but to avoid 1. excessive risk, and 2. putting a large amount of capital where it will sit like a stone, I insist on anchoring the majority of units ordered with deposits up front - minimum # met before the deal kicks off with the manufacturer (which also keeps everyone's money safe). Depending on the company we're dealing with (more on that in a bit) and the minimum order, the deal could require anything from 15 to 25 deposit-secured advance orders. Up to now, that hasn't been possible. Like I said at the beginning, that's a lot to ask when the part doesn't exist yet
Everyone would also understand up front that this would be a business proposition for us, and we need to make enough on the deal to justify a considerable amount of time, some capital investment and some risk. Not the amount we'd have to make if it was solely our investment, but enough to make it worthwhile. I try to avoid being stupid about the same thing twice.
If there seems to be strong interest, I'll shop this around (in consultation with you guys of course), but I've made these contacts before without being able to follow up and I don't like to seem like I'm blowing smoke. I think we'll be looking to Japan rather than the UK (unless Quaife has radically dropped their prices), though I'd like to find a US source too. I'm getting a Detroit TrueTrac LSD for my Titan (all gear, like the Quiafe), maybe they'd be interested (I doubt it, but I'll try). Both KAAZ and Cusco have a lot of experience with FWD differentials and their products are bullitproof, but one of my requirements is that the company has enough presence in the US to provide strong warranty backing. Keep in mind that there's no assurance that any company will want to take on a small project like this. Ironically, one of the reasons the part has such modest sales potential is because they'll charge an arm and a leg to make it...
Here is some useful information if you don't already know everything about limited slip differentials. There's an intro to limited slip diffs, at KAAZ USA. There's also some good content on what sets a heavy duty LSD apart from stock at KAAZ's features and Cusco's features/. I'm not promoting either brand (and I hope there are more choices if we seriously start looking), this information is somewhat applicable to any HD LSD.
If anyone has any companies to suggest other than Quaife, KAAZ or Cusco, throw them out for discussion.
That's my monologue for the evening, dheck out these promotions on the Maxima.org GD page this week - 1. free Cattman stickers, 2. Cattman December Exhaust Sale, and 3. Cattman Weekly Sale.
Brian
When I commissioned the design and fabrication of the original batch of 35 Quaife ATB differentials for the Maxima 5-speed, the British Pound Sterling was worth USD1.35. The wholesale price/unit I paid for this very small manufacturing run was as much or more than what they charge retail for most of the units that are actually in their catalogue. We sold them for $1200-1300 and they didn't exactly fly off the shelf.
Interestingly, they did the entire development based on a differential and pair of axles I sent to the UK, the part had never been in a car until I installed the first one in mine (from a crate of 35). [Goes to show how intimately familiar they needed to be with the vehicle itself - its basically an engineering excercise relative to the gearbox, the vehicle is sort of irrelevant.] I had huge money in the deal, can you imagine the tension of waiting to see if it would work? Obviously it worked great, but it was an insane risk and not one that paid off very well - at those retail prices there wasn't much a profit margin we probably broke even over the time it took to sell them.
A worthy part was developed, but definitely more of a learning experience than a successful venture for us. The very last Quaife was made and sold last year. I got an inquiry from a rally prep team in NZ that had somehow determined that they needed this particular one, and price was no object. Contacted Quaife and they found about 80% of the parts they needed, and fabricated the rest - I was told there were no more.
Anyway, when I contacted QuaifeAmerica about a year ago, I was told that the minimum production order had increased to 35 (it was 25 before, I just had more made), and that the wholesale price had increased about 50% due to increased value of the pound (about $1.80-1.85 then) and routine price increases. This meant that I'd need to sell them for at least $1800/each to make it work, and I dropped the idea. And now it take $1.95 to buy a pound... Short of a sudden collapse in the British economy or a surge in ours + very different monetary and government debt policies, this doesn't seem like a viable proposition.
That said, maybe things have changed. When I dealt with QuaifeAmerica I dealt with one guy, and his name isn't the one I see mentioned in the thread. He would have answers to the questions being asked, so either he's gone (he'd been there a long time) or perhaps it was someone that wasn't close to the Quaife side of their operation (the larger company specialises in VW parts, QuaifeAmerica represents Quaife UK in the US, they are not actually part of Quaife). I can see from their website that the address is the same as when I dealt with them. [We used to be listed on their website, but eventually disappeared when it became clear that no one would be ordering more Maxima diffs.]
If its possible to have 10 or 15 of these made for $1000 each, that's great, but really surprising because it would mean that Quaife's prices and policies have changed dramatically (the US reps had no influence over Quaife prices/policies). That's substantially less than the unit price they quoted a year ago for making a minimum of 35!
If you've read up to here, then you see why we (Cattman Performance) are cautious about getting into something like this again. I've had a standing offer to "arrange" a differential deal for a year or two, but to avoid 1. excessive risk, and 2. putting a large amount of capital where it will sit like a stone, I insist on anchoring the majority of units ordered with deposits up front - minimum # met before the deal kicks off with the manufacturer (which also keeps everyone's money safe). Depending on the company we're dealing with (more on that in a bit) and the minimum order, the deal could require anything from 15 to 25 deposit-secured advance orders. Up to now, that hasn't been possible. Like I said at the beginning, that's a lot to ask when the part doesn't exist yet
Everyone would also understand up front that this would be a business proposition for us, and we need to make enough on the deal to justify a considerable amount of time, some capital investment and some risk. Not the amount we'd have to make if it was solely our investment, but enough to make it worthwhile. I try to avoid being stupid about the same thing twice.
If there seems to be strong interest, I'll shop this around (in consultation with you guys of course), but I've made these contacts before without being able to follow up and I don't like to seem like I'm blowing smoke. I think we'll be looking to Japan rather than the UK (unless Quaife has radically dropped their prices), though I'd like to find a US source too. I'm getting a Detroit TrueTrac LSD for my Titan (all gear, like the Quiafe), maybe they'd be interested (I doubt it, but I'll try). Both KAAZ and Cusco have a lot of experience with FWD differentials and their products are bullitproof, but one of my requirements is that the company has enough presence in the US to provide strong warranty backing. Keep in mind that there's no assurance that any company will want to take on a small project like this. Ironically, one of the reasons the part has such modest sales potential is because they'll charge an arm and a leg to make it...
Here is some useful information if you don't already know everything about limited slip differentials. There's an intro to limited slip diffs, at KAAZ USA. There's also some good content on what sets a heavy duty LSD apart from stock at KAAZ's features and Cusco's features/. I'm not promoting either brand (and I hope there are more choices if we seriously start looking), this information is somewhat applicable to any HD LSD.
If anyone has any companies to suggest other than Quaife, KAAZ or Cusco, throw them out for discussion.
That's my monologue for the evening, dheck out these promotions on the Maxima.org GD page this week - 1. free Cattman stickers, 2. Cattman December Exhaust Sale, and 3. Cattman Weekly Sale.
Brian
11-30-2006 | 01:03 AM
#46
Thanks for that bit of info, it opened my eyes a lot. Okay, now that we know that quaife is pretty much out of the question, even though you didn't come out and say it directly, KAAZ is a name I recognize, as well as the vitek one I have sitting in my room. What happened to that company that made them, how many were made? I can't seem to get anything about them, but I know STILLEN sold them, and I bought this used from another maxima tranny. So how many LSD's are there for the maxima that have been made, quaife, stock lsd, phantom, and stillen/vitek?
11-30-2006 | 02:29 AM
#47
Originally Posted by glenmoormax
Thanks for that bit of info, it opened my eyes a lot. Okay, now that we know that quaife is pretty much out of the question, even though you didn't come out and say it directly, KAAZ is a name I recognize, as well as the vitek one I have sitting in my room. What happened to that company that made them, how many were made? I can't seem to get anything about them, but I know STILLEN sold them, and I bought this used from another maxima tranny. So how many LSD's are there for the maxima that have been made, quaife, stock lsd, phantom, and stillen/vitek?
I'll definitely check with Quaife, just to see if anything has changed. Not sure I can knowledgably answer your other questions, but I'd like to put together a list of potential suppliers with good reputations.
Brian
12-05-2006 | 02:22 PM
#49
Hopefully all interested parties are still following this thread. I don't want to raise any false hopes, but I had a long discussion with QUAIFE and we just might be able to pull something off with them. Their perspective seems to be more flexible than it was previously.
The part would be exactly like the original, made for 95-01 Maxima 5-speeds.
I'm still waiting to have a confirming conversation with them, but it looks like a group deal might be possible if we can get a minimum of 12 buyers to put down "substantial" deposits (something like $400-500). Price per unit would likely be in the $1275-$1350 range.
I'm surprised and encouraged by this. When I inquired with Quaife a year ago the minimum order #s (35 or more) and the price quote ($1250-1350) made the project totally unfeasible, but this can work if we can find a dozen (or more) serious buyers. Don't start sending money yet...
I think this could be a great arrangement because the Quaife is a well-known product, legendary for its performance in the Maxima, and let's not forget the LIFETIME WARRANTY. Even though we would have only selected a quality company (if Quaife wasn't a possiblity), asking customers to put money down on a differential that hasn't even been designed has always been a stumbling block to assembling a new differential deal.
Obviously, we have to pin down some things with Quaife, but I would like to get a sense of the level of interest based on the terms that I've mentioned ($400-500 down, final price around $1275-1350).
Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance
The part would be exactly like the original, made for 95-01 Maxima 5-speeds.
I'm still waiting to have a confirming conversation with them, but it looks like a group deal might be possible if we can get a minimum of 12 buyers to put down "substantial" deposits (something like $400-500). Price per unit would likely be in the $1275-$1350 range.
I'm surprised and encouraged by this. When I inquired with Quaife a year ago the minimum order #s (35 or more) and the price quote ($1250-1350) made the project totally unfeasible, but this can work if we can find a dozen (or more) serious buyers. Don't start sending money yet...
I think this could be a great arrangement because the Quaife is a well-known product, legendary for its performance in the Maxima, and let's not forget the LIFETIME WARRANTY. Even though we would have only selected a quality company (if Quaife wasn't a possiblity), asking customers to put money down on a differential that hasn't even been designed has always been a stumbling block to assembling a new differential deal.
Obviously, we have to pin down some things with Quaife, but I would like to get a sense of the level of interest based on the terms that I've mentioned ($400-500 down, final price around $1275-1350).
Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance
12-05-2006 | 07:00 PM
#53
:)
That's great news Brian! I have a couple of follow up questions/points.
1. If and when a Group Deal is setup in the Group Deal forum, it will draw more attention and getting the mandatory 12 or so orders shouldn't be too hard, I hope.
2. Let's say we get 20 orders (fingers crossed), is the price still going to be the same? or can it be the more people we get, the more we save type approach. Say 12-15 orders, the price is as you mentioned. 15-20 orders, $100 off the final price. That would be great.
Regardless, I'm still in.
1. If and when a Group Deal is setup in the Group Deal forum, it will draw more attention and getting the mandatory 12 or so orders shouldn't be too hard, I hope.
2. Let's say we get 20 orders (fingers crossed), is the price still going to be the same? or can it be the more people we get, the more we save type approach. Say 12-15 orders, the price is as you mentioned. 15-20 orders, $100 off the final price. That would be great.
Regardless, I'm still in.
12-05-2006 | 08:22 PM
#54
Brian I am prepared to send you the whole amount if talks with Quaife lead to production. I've been looking for years and kicking myself @ the same time when I had to opportunity to buy one and didn't.
crewchief264: 1
choray911: 1
ptatohed: 1
The Wizard: 1
jac121479: 2-3
BlackBIRDVQ: 1
glenmoormax: 1-2
qbturbo: 1
8-10 units claimed
crewchief264: 1
choray911: 1
ptatohed: 1
The Wizard: 1
jac121479: 2-3
BlackBIRDVQ: 1
glenmoormax: 1-2
qbturbo: 1
8-10 units claimed
12-06-2006 | 12:47 AM
#56
Regarding #1, I hope you're right too!
Regarding #2, there would be a small amount of price flexibility if the # of orders went "considerably beyond" 12 early orders (w/o the details from Quaife I can't say how much). Since I'm not going to tie up a large amount of capital in the deal, our margin will be relatively small and there's not a lot of room to work with (the price from Quaife will not vary, whether its 15 or 30). If I were to make a wild guess, I'd suppose that the price could drop $50-75/unit if we pre-sold 20 rather than 12; based on what I'm looking at so far, $100 less is not likely.
Brian
Regarding #2, there would be a small amount of price flexibility if the # of orders went "considerably beyond" 12 early orders (w/o the details from Quaife I can't say how much). Since I'm not going to tie up a large amount of capital in the deal, our margin will be relatively small and there's not a lot of room to work with (the price from Quaife will not vary, whether its 15 or 30). If I were to make a wild guess, I'd suppose that the price could drop $50-75/unit if we pre-sold 20 rather than 12; based on what I'm looking at so far, $100 less is not likely.
Brian
Originally Posted by The Wizard
That's great news Brian! I have a couple of follow up questions/points.
1. If and when a Group Deal is setup in the Group Deal forum, it will draw more attention and getting the mandatory 12 or so orders shouldn't be too hard, I hope.
2. Let's say we get 20 orders (fingers crossed), is the price still going to be the same? or can it be the more people we get, the more we save type approach. Say 12-15 orders, the price is as you mentioned. 15-20 orders, $100 off the final price. That would be great.
Regardless, I'm still in.
1. If and when a Group Deal is setup in the Group Deal forum, it will draw more attention and getting the mandatory 12 or so orders shouldn't be too hard, I hope.
2. Let's say we get 20 orders (fingers crossed), is the price still going to be the same? or can it be the more people we get, the more we save type approach. Say 12-15 orders, the price is as you mentioned. 15-20 orders, $100 off the final price. That would be great.
Regardless, I'm still in.
12-06-2006 | 07:29 AM
#57
speaking with kaaz or cusco, what did they say about an lsd for our cars?
didn't nismo make an lsd for the altima's of 93-01 which used our 5spd tranny, only midly altered? I wonder what type it was and how good it was...
didn't nismo make an lsd for the altima's of 93-01 which used our 5spd tranny, only midly altered? I wonder what type it was and how good it was...
12-06-2006 | 09:04 AM
#59
Originally Posted by michaelnyden
speaking with kaaz or cusco, what did they say about an lsd for our cars?
didn't nismo make an lsd for the altima's of 93-01 which used our 5spd tranny, only midly altered? I wonder what type it was and how good it was...
didn't nismo make an lsd for the altima's of 93-01 which used our 5spd tranny, only midly altered? I wonder what type it was and how good it was...
I'll be honest - when it looked like Quaife might be able to put something together (and I still emphasize 'might'), I forgot about kaaz and cusco. These companies have not made a Maxima differential before, there is no lifetime warranty, and from appearances neither seems to have a solid representative in the US (they have dealers, but not their own offices).
Brian
12-06-2006 | 01:48 PM
#62
Originally Posted by DandyMax
Hmm, if this project actually flies I'd be seriously interested in getting in on it...
I gather a Quaife requires an open diff tranny???? The VLSD has a different case, LH axle and carrier bearings.
Damn and I just spent several hundred in bearings and seals rebuilding mine when I did the engine swap.
12-06-2006 | 02:13 PM
#63
Originally Posted by qbturbo
Hey Brian have you considered, or has anyone else from this thread, considered modifying the Helical Limited slip that was offered in the 6 speed Maximas in 2003 to fit the 4th gen's 5 speed?
I'm fairly sure that wouldn't work (or might work, but wouldn't be practical). Even if it did, that differential isn't strong enough to sell as an aftermarket unit.
Brian
12-06-2006 | 02:19 PM
#64
Just so everyone knows that I haven't ruled anything out, I'm going to speak with a US-based company - famed for decades for its differentials for the rwd performance and truck markets (as in pickups to semis) - about the possiblity of a front wheel drive, all-gear (Quaife-style), unit.
Their main concern is likely to be volume. I'll be quite surprised if they're interested in any arrangement that involves selling less than 100-150/year. OTOH, if they were priced in the $650-800 range, higher sales would result...
I'll keep everyone updated on what we're doing, and please feel free to keep tossing out ideas.
Brian
Their main concern is likely to be volume. I'll be quite surprised if they're interested in any arrangement that involves selling less than 100-150/year. OTOH, if they were priced in the $650-800 range, higher sales would result...
I'll keep everyone updated on what we're doing, and please feel free to keep tossing out ideas.
Brian
12-07-2006 | 06:42 AM
#65
Originally Posted by eng92
Ahhh a fellow Canadian with VLSD.
I gather a Quaife requires an open diff tranny???? The VLSD has a different case, LH axle and carrier bearings.
Damn and I just spent several hundred in bearings and seals rebuilding mine when I did the engine swap.
I gather a Quaife requires an open diff tranny???? The VLSD has a different case, LH axle and carrier bearings.
Damn and I just spent several hundred in bearings and seals rebuilding mine when I did the engine swap.
How are you finding the combo of 3.5 + VLSD working for you?
12-07-2006 | 08:16 AM
#67
Originally Posted by Cattman
I'm fairly sure that wouldn't work (or might work, but wouldn't be practical). Even if it did, that differential isn't strong enough to sell as an aftermarket unit.
Brian
Brian
Thanks for responding Brian, that's what I figured, but I just wanted to throw it out there anyway. I hope you can convince Quaife to get things rolling.
12-07-2006 | 12:21 PM
#69
Originally Posted by Poowill
i'd definitely be interested, but i can't afford to wait very long as my tranny needs to be rebuilt/swapped this winter due to input shaft bearing 
12-07-2006 | 03:32 PM
#70
Originally Posted by d00df00d
How bad is it? If you don't hear bits clattering around in there, you can probably just drive on it for a few months....
Its not going to be driven for a few months anyways. Its in its hibernation from the South Dakota winter, so the tranny's got some time to rest. But come spring i'm going to need to find something...
12-07-2006 | 04:31 PM
#71
Being an automatic driver I had no option of a HSLD when I bought my max. I did find this product after some research.
http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_l...hp?make=Nissan
nissanperformancemag did a very favorable write up on them awhile back. Just a thought.
http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_l...hp?make=Nissan
nissanperformancemag did a very favorable write up on them awhile back. Just a thought.
12-07-2006 | 06:04 PM
#72
Originally Posted by Nietzsche
Being an automatic driver I had no option of a HSLD when I bought my max. I did find this product after some research.
http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_l...hp?make=Nissan
nissanperformancemag did a very favorable write up on them awhile back. Just a thought.
http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_l...hp?make=Nissan
nissanperformancemag did a very favorable write up on them awhile back. Just a thought.
12-08-2006 | 12:51 AM
#73
Originally Posted by Nietzsche
Being an automatic driver I had no option of a HSLD when I bought my max. I did find this product after some research.
http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_l...hp?make=Nissan
nissanperformancemag did a very favorable write up on them awhile back. Just a thought.
http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_l...hp?make=Nissan
nissanperformancemag did a very favorable write up on them awhile back. Just a thought.
BCC
12-08-2006 | 02:23 PM
#75
Since this thread has been brought back to life, the following individuals have shown interest in a purchase:
1. Poowill
2. DandyMax
3. michaelnyden
4. qbturbo
5. The Wizard
6. Larrio Motors
7. glenmoormax
8. jac121479
9. BlackBIRDVQ
not bad but we need some more...
1. Poowill
2. DandyMax
3. michaelnyden
4. qbturbo
5. The Wizard
6. Larrio Motors
7. glenmoormax
8. jac121479
9. BlackBIRDVQ
not bad but we need some more...
12-08-2006 | 10:52 PM
#78
Yep, need to do a bit better... Looks like it may be time to move this over to the GD forum. I need to have another conversation with Quaife before I stick my neck out that far and will do that next week.
BTW, I had a follow up conversation with Detroit/Eaton - makers of the TrueTrack all-gear differential (basically Quaife-style diff). They're thinking about going after the FWD market in addition to the truck and RWD muscle, but even if they could be tempted to go after the Maxima, the timeline would be over a year, so I don't expect anything to come of that. The TrueTrack seems to be an excellent aftermarket diff for the Titan (I'm getting one for the shop truck). Only $535 for this big boy, if only there was a diff in that price range for our cars.
Brian
BTW, I had a follow up conversation with Detroit/Eaton - makers of the TrueTrack all-gear differential (basically Quaife-style diff). They're thinking about going after the FWD market in addition to the truck and RWD muscle, but even if they could be tempted to go after the Maxima, the timeline would be over a year, so I don't expect anything to come of that. The TrueTrack seems to be an excellent aftermarket diff for the Titan (I'm getting one for the shop truck). Only $535 for this big boy, if only there was a diff in that price range for our cars.
Brian
Originally Posted by jac121479
Since this thread has been brought back to life, the following individuals have shown interest in a purchase:
1. Poowill
2. DandyMax
3. michaelnyden
4. qbturbo
5. The Wizard
6. Larrio Motors
7. glenmoormax
8. jac121479
9. BlackBIRDVQ
not bad but we need some more...
1. Poowill
2. DandyMax
3. michaelnyden
4. qbturbo
5. The Wizard
6. Larrio Motors
7. glenmoormax
8. jac121479
9. BlackBIRDVQ
not bad but we need some more...
