Brian
Any updates???

 

I wondered why I hadn't heard back from Quaife America, and then found out most of their staff is at the PIR show in Florida this week. Hopefully we'll get some good news next week.

Brian

 

So would this work for a 6th gen auto? Probably not I assume.

 

were @ 10 units spoken for now so when we send this to the group deal forums i think we'll get our five more. Brian, any word from Quaife???

 

Keep us udated Brian. I got my eye on this thread on a daily basis. Big plans for the new year. Happy Holidays and God Bless to all!!!

 

I think our best shot is to go with Tomei, Kaaz or Nismo LSD's. There better priced and the only thing we gotta do is to make sure that it's a 1way LSD for the maxima.

And please remember there are alot more performance minded maxima owners now then ever and still increasing, as apposed to when the Quaife first came on the scene. People with 3.5 swaps, SC setups, TC setups, NOS setups can all benefit from a LSD.!!!!!!!

BTW make me the 10th person on the list!!!!!!! I'll put up $500

 

you'd actually be the 11th now.
1. Poowill
2. DandyMax
3. michaelnyden
4. qbturbo
5. The Wizard
6. Larrio Motors
7. glenmoormax
8. jac121479
9. BlackBIRDVQ
10. MaxVTChE
11. Ghase
I know for a fact that at 15 units the price will be reasonable with Quaife. if we could get 30, even better, but thats being alittle too optimistic. hopefully Brian hears something back soon.

 

And considering tax returns are right around the corner, this is actually perfect timing in a way..... Getting to 15+ orders seems doable once it gets in the Group Deal section.

 

LOL thanks!!!!!!!

 

OK, I want to write once more before we (Cattman Performance) close for the holidays (open again on Friday, 29 December).

Autotech ("QuaifeAmerica") hasn't been real responsive after showing some initial signs of interest, but I've just gotten some real interesting information from another direction that makes the Quaife unit seem like a real possibility. #s that work, both in terms of quantities that have to be ordered and amounts paid. I need to look into it further and obviously the next two weeks are the worst time to pursue business leads, but bear with me till after the new year and we'll be on this like a rash.

Someone mentioned going after other brands, and if the Quaife deal didn't work out I'd say the same thing, but the key issue is that none of those companies have made this part. 10, 25 or 50 units is not enough to persuade most firms to develop a part. Without even considering the merits of different differential types (the all-gear torque proportioning design vs clutch-style differentials), the discussion very likely stops with not being taken seriously by any of these Japenese companies.

And, there would be no reason to assume that the Asian brands would be any cheaper. The prices of limited run parts (if someone will make them at all), bear little resemblance to the prices for mass-produced parts in the same company's catalogues.

The Quaife is known and new ones would be exactly like the old ones. As any owner can tell you, they work great, the difference is phenomenal. You could hardly find a 300hp Maxima around when these were first sold, now there are many with that and more but no decent differentials.

On a barely related topic, I put a Detroit TrueTrac all-gear differential in my Titan today, what an improvement for a 2wd open-diff pickup!

Hope everyone has a great holiday season, be safe.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

 

One more word before we leave town for the holidays...

Heard back right away from Quaife UK - yep, we're finally dealing directly with the source. Better prices and lower minimum orders, this could definitely work out, everyone looking for the ultimate differential solution can finally take heart in this. I promise to shift this to the group deal page the first week in January.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

 

Thanks for the last minute update Brian. That's really great news. And thanks again for stepping up and helping the Maxima community.

Goodbye tax return money, hello Quaife!!

 

+1!!!!!!!

 

glad this is going to work out.

 

Great news Brian!!! I hope this becomes a reality in 2007!!! Thanks Brian and everyone on here who is serious about this!!! Happy Holidays and God Bless!!!

 

Happy New Year everybody! any news Brian?

 

So yeah middle of winter, time to mod the car while its out of commission....

Any news ?

 

Im out of this deal, I am buying BLU's quaife!!!

 

jack, your gonna buy 2 or 3? you know even with the GD, they are gonna be over $1K each?

 

OK, I think that I've got everything figured out, and confirmed with Quaife UK, so I'll run this by you guys and get your reactions before going to the GD forum.

We'll need at least 15 orders (w/ $400 deposits) to make this work. The unit price goes way up if there are fewer than that. If we could somehow line up 24 orders my price goes down £20, so your price drops $40, which would be great.

Price will be determined by the size of the deal:
15-23 orders, $1189
24+ orders, $1149

A deposit of $400 is required, payable by money order only. We will hold all of the MOs until we have at least 15, and then all will be cashed to cover the deposit for Quaife. Cancellations can be made up to the point of sending the Quaife deposit (we'll just return your MO), after that there will be no deposit refunds. [Of course if something went wrong and we couldn't provide the product, all the deposits would be returned.]

Production should be complete 10-12 weeks after Quaife receives their deposit. I'll remind everyone that this will be their second production run of this part and their are no development or design issues to figure out. We already know that the part works flawlessly.

Obviously there are issues of trust here, so those who aren't familiar with our history and reputation in the Maxima community can ask around to make sure Cattman Performance is for real (and not likely to run off with the deposits).

Finally, since these are coming from the United Kingdom the prices are based on an exchange rate of about $1.95/£1. I'm not going to mess around with floating the price with minor exchange rate variations, but if the dollar tanks and that ratio goes over $2.00+/£1 we'll need to make adjustments to the price.

So, what does everyone think, other than wishing they were $500 instead? I appreciate all input.

Brian

 

that was the plan, but the holidays put a serious hurtin on me. regardless of price, i'm in for one. i was also planning on having the diff installed professionally somewhere but i just started my new job at a helicopter gearbox/landing gear strut overhaul shop. i think after a few gearbox overhauls to boost my confidence i may attack this one on my own. we'll see!

 

you know i'm in Brian. do you want money orders sent right away or do you want to wait for 15 confirmed units?

 

I think the price is fair enough. However, it seems a bit excessive to wait 2-3 months to make these once Quaife has our deposit. The R&D is done, what else is there? Regardless, I'm in.

 

Mine will be up for grabs in a few weeks

 

details please!!!!

 

Mardi can you shed some light on your diff ? I am interested in it.

Where do we sign up for the diff ? Where can we see the group of how many are interested. I would send my 400 in..... how bout a JWT camshaft group deal :P ?

 

jwt camshaft GD sounds good also!

 

I still have one big question that probably nobody can answer.......

Will the Quaife replace both VLSD and non-VLSD units, or just the non-VLSD unit?


i.e. the 3 and 4 gen max share the same differentials.. both share the non-VLSD... all the way down to the bearings.
both share the same VLSD, all the way down to the bearings.
BUT... since the Quaife was designed around a non-VLSD 4th gen diff, would it be possible to use it in a 4th gen VLSD tranny case?
Even if I have to get a non-VLSD axle or something, that's fine and dandy, as long as I can swap the diff and make the thing work.


Anyway, can someone provide some insight on this?
If it'll work, I'm definitely in for one.. and hurry up! my tranny is sitting on the bench waiting on parts.

 

I have seen Quaife state as a rule that, for applications in which an LSD is optional, their diff is made to work in place of the non-limited slip unit. So, I would bet that this diff will only drop into an open diff tranny.

 

The differential bearings are not the same size on the VLSD and open diff transmissions. I can look tomorrow but it is my recollection that there would be no way to swap the bearings from one to the other, thus no way to use a Quaife designed to go in an open diff case in a VLSD case.

 

quick question, so we put the 400 down now, and than the roughly 800-900 down when they come in 10-12 weeks later? if so i may be down for this..

 

I'm in for one. Who do we make the money order out to?

 

I will send my money order off on February 2!!!!!! I have to pay my car insurance this month, but once that's done I'am in the clear...

This is going to be sweet, and I just got a fresh brand new tranny, can't wait!!!!!!!

 

I also wish that the waiting period would be less than 10-12 weeks, but I will deal with that since the price is right. I can send in the money order immediately and I hope we get our deposits to Quaife ASAP when we get at least 15 together (considering the long production wait ahead).

If others want to join in later after they get their money together that's fine, but waiting for additional people to sign up (which may not ever happen) to save 50 bucks doesn't make too much sense to me. Who knows, through, maybe many more will show interest once this hits the GD page...

IOW - I'm still in! Just let me know when to send the money Brian!

 

No reason not to accept MOs right away, I'll move this to the GD forum on Monday, and hopefully we'll build to over 15 orders right away. [I'm going to be out of town for the next three days, and out of web contact, so don't think I'm ignoring this thread.]

Fill in the "To:" blank on the money orders this way: Cattman Performance or [your name] - that way if you cancelled or we sent them back for some reason, you can cash it yourself.

Please include your name, maxima.org screen name, shipping address, phone number, and email address.

Send to:

QUAIFE DEAL
Cattman Performance
10311 N Possum Run Lane
Oro Valley, AZ 85737

Since there's quite a bit of money involved, we will need to receive the remaining funds just before its necessary to pay Quaife, and I assume that happens when they ship the units to us (but I'll see about a COD arrangement). I'm planning to ship by air, rather than sea, so transit time shouldn't be over a week.

We will not wait an extended period of time to raise 24 units, once the pace of new orders taper off (assuming we've reached 15), we'll do the deal.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

 

so most likely, after the deposit is down, we wont need to put the rest down untill roughly 10 weeks later? sorry its just im trying to figure out if i can do this or not

 

Matt I checked today, wouldn't work without a crapload of custom work.

 

That's exactly how I expect this to work.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

 

The group deal is a go! Thanks Brian.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....56#post5453156

 

things seem pretty slow in the GD forum for the Quaife. you guys still interested?