I bought Chris' blower kit that he advertised for $2500
from here:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=482209


What do you guys think should be included in there? no fmu and stuff, but I expected all lines and tubes as the descrption says, "All necessary hardware" which is why I bought the damn thing so I wouldnt have to go around looking for lines and crap... pretty dissapointed
the way I see it I got parts worth maybe $1700 =/

Opinions?

Before I sent money, I was told everything is included, complete kit ( stillen plus custom parts), then things just started going down hill. I could understand that fmu wasnt part of it or walbro as we discussed when things started to look shady, but this is too much.

 

whoa.. that was pretty brave... I know chris has been working on this for awhile.. but if he cant get it running right with all the stuff he mentioned, that should've popped a red flag up. I hope things work out for ya. But wasnt that kit for a 3.5 engine in his 3.0 max?? hmm.. Well if you didnt get the injectors, ask if they were the right size to begin with and if "I" were you, DO NOT try ANYTHING without a management. you dont need the front mount, but a good thing to have would be a water/methanol injection kit. If you can get that, that would be your intercooler in a sense.. and all the fluid is is the Prestone DE Icer fluid.. depending on where you live, they sell them in like any auto place. Just food for thought. cuz sometimes even running all that boost and air through the pipes and intercooler, doesnt mean your getting the full boost. I.e. Boost leaks. jsut more headache.
Hope things go good for yah.

 

The kit was for a 3.0L maxima. I was told everything was included before I decided to buy it. I posted a link to the screen shot of this. I also emailed hi a link to this post. I talked ot him on the phone and we agrred on the fmu and walbro not being included, thoguh you'd assume that an fmu would be included in a kit with all the hardware. I'll take pics of what I got.

The way I see it is two things:
1. he didnt understand what a kit with all the hardware is, or
2. I'm being ripped off.

what do you guys think?

 

This is the only time i am going to reply in this thread as i do not feel like i need to defend myself. If you feel like you have been ripped off then so be it. I told you before and after you bought the kit that what is included is what was listed in the for sale ad. It is not my fault that you are not educated on this subject enough to look and read to see what you need and what you don't. I gave you everything that came off my car that is need to bolt this setup to your car. AS I HAVE STATED MULTIPLE TIMES THE FUEL SETUP COULD BE PURCHASED FOR A ADDITIONAL COST. You really need to educate yourself and learn about s/c'ing the car before you start throwing out accusations.

What i gave you is what was neccessary to install the SUPERCHARGER AND PIPING AND INTERCOOLER. ADDITIONAL PARTS ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE THE S/C RUN SAFELY AS I TOLD YOU. I IN NO WAY IMPLIED THAT I WAS GIVING YOU ANY OF THE FUEL EQUIPMENT.

 

I am educated, I have been reading this forum for a long time. Whenever I asked you to further describe the kit you dodged it, until we got on the phone. You kept coming up with excuses about everything. Not all parts included, late shipping, instructions not packaged, now this. You didnt even box everything up right. Yu just threw things in tehre without putting them in bags, barely any packing material in one box everything rattling around, tape was coming off of one box. damn man , this is complete bull wtf.

People beware.


I have plenty of PMs stated that this is a complete kit.

 

[quote=mjk]paypal, check account to account?


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Originally Posted by chris'smax
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Originally Posted by mjk
It's a nice kit but the blower will need to be rebuild in about 20k miles especially since you've been running high boost (pullies under 3"), thus overspinning it. I would have to replace the v2 plate with Matty's, etc..

Also does this come with all the random stuff like rubber power steering lines, Radiator Over-Flow Relocation Bracket, Crank Case Breather, guages, etc?
If you could list all the parts that is included in it, not sure what you mean by "all hardware". This might help me adjust my offer somehat.

thanks

I don't know where you got the rebuild timeframe from, but vortech says that the blowers are good for over 100k miles and then they "might need" a rebuild. It is really dependant on how well the unit is maintained. I haven't even ran it yet with the 2.62 pulley. It has been run w/ a 2.87 pulley and a 3.125 pulley on stock rev limiter. The blower deff does not get abused becuase i only would boost about 2 times a week. That is part of the reason i am getting rid of it is because i drive like a grandma.

When i say hardware i mean all neccessary components to install the kit( ie nuts, bolts, brakets and such). I will include a 3 guage pod from custom enterprises and my tranny temp guage and my autometer phantom boost guage. I also would include a single carbon fiber autometer guage pod. The only thing you would need to buy is a k&n filter since i am going to have to keep mine.

For all of this would you be willing to do $2400?


paypal

 

all necessary components to install the kit. What does that mean, does that mean something other than everything I would need to get up and going?

Someone explain this to me, How am I not educated about what needs to be on it, when he said that everything is included.

The worst experience ever.

 

compeltely full of ****

I can provide screen shots of more PMs

 

Just so everyone knows this guy is a f'ing lunatic. He accussed me of ripping him off even before i sent him the kit. Just because I took a couple of days to reply to him about the amount of boost a pulley produced he threatened to cancel the check he sent me.


The question is what do i have to gain by not sending him parts. I am selling the f'ing car. It isn't like i am going to keep them for centimental value. This is so f'ing ridiculous. I guess once he goes and installls the kit he will see i wasn't trying to f### him over.

It is $hit like this that has almost made quite w/ cars.

 

BTW you do realize you are arguing over about $20 worth of fuel lines and clamps(which was never said to be included). Just thought i would point that out.

IGNORANCE KILLS

 

I should have cancelled the check when I started seeing that your word isn't 100%. I have PMs to prove everything I said. When I bought stuff from other people I made no issues about it, because everything was as stated. It's **** like this why people are afraid to buy anything on the org, people like you. Too bad you are not the type of seller that Matty is.

 

No I'm not I posted everything. I'm done with this, kit is not worth the money, but would have if it was as described.

If oyu claim that I was wrong, then be a man and take it back and I'll cover the shipping, after I get a check.
And next time make a parts list when you say you would, dont keep delaying it and in the last minute blame your printer when I see that the list is not even i the box. When I asked if everything was in it you said yes, I have proof.

 

err......this isnt a fun post, im out,,,,

 

Summary:

Kit was not as described before the first payment was made, so I want a refund. I will ship it back at my expense just to make it easier.

You will not have problems selling it if you trully believe the kit is what you claim it.

 

BOOOOOOOOO.. you deleted my comment.. i think... my comptuer was acting up so maybe it didnt even go on. Oh well. HEY, if you feel that bad about that doubtful about this kit, then i would try to get a refund as well. On the other hand, its kinda lesson learned never to buy something like that without being 100 percent sure of it. kinda like ebay....sometimes you just wont know.

Chris, if you say that you dont need it anymore, then how come you just didnt get rid of the fuel components when you said you didnt want to part it out in the first place? you know first hand how important that stuff is. If it was to save the other person money (didnt read the whole post.. got tired) then i can understand, but im hoping you fully explained to the customer that he would need it and its vital to have.

 

The last time I spoke with Vortech, that was what they told me too. As long as the blower isn't giving off the 'marbles-in-a-can' noise then it doesn't need to be rebuilt.
Replacing the V2 mounting plate with matty's is a personal choice only.

In regards to "All necessary hardware" if I was selling my SC kit I would have printed off the Stillens parts list, checkmarked off the parts included and send it off to the potential buyer so that everything is clear. Just my 2 cents.

 

and that would be a very good way to do it with the checklist thing. that way that person who is gonna buy it knows what they are getting.. Unless some of the stuff that was said that was gonna be included wasnt in there.

But Chris prolly just got so fed up with it they he just wanted to get rid of it. Which i would check first.. but that was just me.. cuz i dont want someone coming back to me telling me that it wasnt right.

 

I have dealt with Chris buying and selling thing back and forth and I can personally vouch for him being able to work out anything with you. I have also helped him work on his car several times and helped him through his engine swap and several of his projects. First of all he never had any problems with his kit. He never really had any belt problems with his V2 plate either which is surprising. I can also tell you he babies his car really bad, and would barely boost it.

I am not sure what you did or did not expect to come with the kit and Chris probably should have been more specific on what exactly came with it, but fuel lines, PS lines, and an FMU are all very cheap and not really worth fighting over. An FMU is easily $150-200 on ebay or google and it was clearly not included on the sale as he didn't have one anymore. The rubber hoses, lines, and small clamps, etc. can be bought from autozone, etc. for less than $10. He also put a lot of time and money into the custom CAI and IC piping. I can promise you that you basically got a Matty kit (with V2 setup instead) with an IC setup and CAI prebuilt, SC, BOV, and oil line. I think you got a pretty good deal. It is not uncommon for all of that without the CAI or the IC setup to go for the same price.

 

Dude you need to just stop for a second and THINK about the words that have been posted by chris. Its all the HARDWARE to INSTAL the BLOWER. No fuel support.

You could run the blower kit as is, but not very much boost, and it wouldnt be that safe. Just buy the fuel part of the kit off him, install it all and add fuel management and your good.

Once again, you bought the MECHANICAL PART of a blower kit. Theres 3 basic parts

1-mechanical- blower, piping, FMIC, etc
2-fuel- bigger fuel injectors, FMU etc
3-management- EU ultimate or SAFC (safc is kinda a bandaid) or SMT etc

Or thats what it sounds like to me. I skipped the last couple of posts and I dont know the whole story, but thats what I read.

~Alex

 

That is pretty much the case. I also wouldn't install the blower as is without a fuel pump and an FMU. You can get both for under $300. It will be enough for 6 to anything less than 10psi. It will not be ground breaking power, but it will work well and give you a good start.

 

MJK: I think u should not have posted this but instead talked to one of the S/C peeps in pms....by doin this post u would be slamming Chris and that is not good in doin business for the both of u. All u need is the FMU and a Walbro Fuel pump...I bought my kit a while back from the ex owner of the org for 2700..I was missing the PS lines and a Fuel pump...those things were not included...the things that were are worth as much if not more...Hope both of yall( Chris and MJK) can resolve this matter without any crazy confrontation in the org. good luck guys

 

The onus all comes back on the buyer to asking as many questions to the seller as possible. It does look to me like assumptions were made but hey, live and learn. As maxlinegtr mentioned above you just have to spend a little bit more to get extra pieces like an adjustable fmu, walbro and fpr and you're all set. Fuel lines are cheap to get as well. Also, we're all available here for advice too.

 

Yeah looks like it. I was expecting the treatment I give others, maybe that's too much. I'm used to ebay transactions, fast and problem free. At least the next person will think twice. I was asking questions... Better to learn on a blower than a car...

 

makes sense...

 

if you all look at my f/s add i clearly state that the fuel setup and engine management were available for a ADDITIONAL $1000. That right there should have cleared up anything.


This is a custom kit so the stillen checklist could be used along with the list that was listed in the f/s add i had. What else do you want me to do, list every f'ing bolt?

This guy is claiming i ripped him off when he doesn't even know what is required in a s/c kit and doesn't even know how to install it!

 

I was only talking about an FMU and fuel lines, not the injectors that were for sale for extra.


You said this was a complete kit ready to be bolted up, it iss not!

 

Listen Chris Holman,

I was mislead about what was included and pushed to a quick payment by you saying that you have had problems with people sending money. If you really are the honest seller, and I am the ignorant fool that you claim, then prove it by refunding my money. I will cover the shipping so that you do not lose any money on this. I don't want to stress about this, while it's making me sick to my stomach. I want to put this behind me.
Send me a refund. I will cover the shipping and the papal fee you got hit with during the first payment.

 

You just reinforce my idea that unless you prove to me other wise, I think you are retarted. Why dont you think about what chris and every one else has posted insted of saying the same stupid garbage every time you post? We try to help and you are ignorant to it. Any way have fun modding your maxima.....

~Alex

 

I've always felt that both of you were childish...

 

Aside from the FMU and the Walbro what else is missing? Fuel lines? Power Steering lines relocation w/clamps? I know for a fact alot of used SCer kits do not come with power steering lines to relocate your lines. Those you have to buy. I installed three new stillen V2 kits here at the house and they were all missing the power steering lines.

To reinstall your stock lines back on the car would be the biggest pain ever. Thats why most guys do not bother to remove those lines.

Jaime

 

Chris think you can PM about those 5 speed parts? you know which ones I am talking about? from like 3 years ago?

 

In the end I was the dumbass for not pulling the check out, and sending money before getting pics and answers in the thread itself not PM/aim/email...

 

As those that have previously pointed out in both threads, it was clear as to what you were and weren't getting in the f/s thread.



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stop posting and just install the damn thing...

 

I just said that I should have stuck to the thread. Instead of asking Qs outside of it. but he did not tell me that I would need other parts other than the k&N and I did ask before sending cash. Still it's not in the thread, and that's where I should have asked and waited for response.

EDIT:
unsubscribing so I can put this behind me..

 

I usually try to stay out of these things but it's pretty clear that the FS add clearly stated no fuel related items were included for $2500 but were available for the additional funds....

 

My opinion is if you have everything other than fuel related items then I guess the deal was as said. If you are missing other parts than fuel related items to hook the blower up, then there is an issue.