Kevlo RMT Turbo build -Works !!
Yea i have a Pen style Apexi knock off. But i think its my wiring that caused it to fail. It seems that sometimes when i start the car, the timer would be counting down like if i shut off the car so it was giving 12v ontop of what it was using to run the timer. It was pretty wierd, but i couldnt get it it to work any other way, streetz helped me with the wiring when i was doing it and had showed concern since he was having the same issue i was having...maybe he solved it? i duno...
Im going to spend the money and get the Black Apexi TT this time around and hope that it doesnt fail like this one did. Right now i have my pump wired to a switch so i can drive the car while i wait for my new one in the mail.
BTW, are you running an inline filter before the pump? I have read that this is highly recomended to increase the life of ANY pump, as well as increasing the distance between the turbo and pump for cooling purposes. Some of the companies that make these pumps wont even claim waranty service if you run the pump directly from the turbo as it adds extra wear and tear, have you heard of anything like this?
BTW, let us know how loud your new pump is! i have heard some of the gear pumps are pretty damn loud...hopefully mounting it to a rubber pad of some sort will help reduce the noise some...
Im going to spend the money and get the Black Apexi TT this time around and hope that it doesnt fail like this one did. Right now i have my pump wired to a switch so i can drive the car while i wait for my new one in the mail.
BTW, are you running an inline filter before the pump? I have read that this is highly recomended to increase the life of ANY pump, as well as increasing the distance between the turbo and pump for cooling purposes. Some of the companies that make these pumps wont even claim waranty service if you run the pump directly from the turbo as it adds extra wear and tear, have you heard of anything like this?
BTW, let us know how loud your new pump is! i have heard some of the gear pumps are pretty damn loud...hopefully mounting it to a rubber pad of some sort will help reduce the noise some...
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I do not have a filter, I don't want it to hang too low.
What filter would you get? Like this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-230306ERL/
But I read that is a "prefilter"
The pump I am getting is suppose to be quieter than the Shurflo
What filter would you get? Like this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-230306ERL/
But I read that is a "prefilter"
The pump I am getting is suppose to be quieter than the Shurflo
I do not have a filter, I don't want it to hang too low.
What filter would you get? Like this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-230306ERL/
But I read that is a "prefilter"
The pump I am getting is suppose to be quieter than the Shurflo
What filter would you get? Like this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-230306ERL/
But I read that is a "prefilter"
The pump I am getting is suppose to be quieter than the Shurflo

I just rested it on something soft and rebolted it...cant even hear it now!
As for the filter, i dont know if thats going to restrict the oil flow even more to the turbo (maybe causing some problems with your current oil restrictor?). I was thinking more along the lines of a filter in between the oil going out of the turbo to the pump...but a filter to the turbo could accomplish the same thing to an extent i guess...
I dont have one, but I know its been discussed among other RMT folks on other forums...
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I may add a filter later down the road, it hasnt caused any issues as of yet and its been like this for over 20k miles about...might be over kill...
Ive noticed that alot of the RMT guys go through pretty hardcore measures to make sure everything is fail safe, But at the same time, the whole idea of doing a RMT is because its cost effective, adding all these precautions kind of just negates the whole aspect of it in that sense so far its all worked for me with the exception of the ghey TT...
I was just mentioning this to you since you actually dished out some serious cash for a NICE scavenge pump...i would hate for yours to fail because of not adding a 40 dollar filter or something stupid...
Im planning on getting this TT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BLITZ...Q5fAccessories
Pretty convenient with a Built in boost gauge, me likeee
Ive noticed that alot of the RMT guys go through pretty hardcore measures to make sure everything is fail safe, But at the same time, the whole idea of doing a RMT is because its cost effective, adding all these precautions kind of just negates the whole aspect of it in that sense so far its all worked for me with the exception of the ghey TT...
I was just mentioning this to you since you actually dished out some serious cash for a NICE scavenge pump...i would hate for yours to fail because of not adding a 40 dollar filter or something stupid...

Im planning on getting this TT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BLITZ...Q5fAccessories
Pretty convenient with a Built in boost gauge, me likeee
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So Mocal does not have any pumps nor do they know when I will be able to get one so I canceled my order and plan to order one from here:
http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/oilsystems.htm
They specialize in remote mount turbo oil pumps so it should be equally as reliable.
http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/oilsystems.htm
They specialize in remote mount turbo oil pumps so it should be equally as reliable.
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Nevermind, their pumps CANNOT be mounted above the turbo.
Next up, the Mocal/Tilton/Flojet pump. I know summit racing has them in stock so hopefully it gets here ASAP
Next up, the Mocal/Tilton/Flojet pump. I know summit racing has them in stock so hopefully it gets here ASAP
So did you get a Gear pump or another diaphram one? I thought you already ordered one...
I cant really talk since i havent even ordered the stupid TT...lol its so anoying having to sit in the car for 1:30 seconds to shut it off manually lol..
I cant really talk since i havent even ordered the stupid TT...lol its so anoying having to sit in the car for 1:30 seconds to shut it off manually lol..
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Diaphram. The Mocal gear pump is not available right now. The RB racing pumps cannot be mounted above the turbo. So I had to go to the 3rd best one which is the Mocal/Tilton/Flojet pump. It is basically a Shurflo that can handle higher temps. It also has a built in fan which keeps the motor cool. I put it in and it smokes less but there is still oil in the exhaust. So this means the seals in the turbo are bad.
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Diaphram. The Mocal gear pump is not available right now. The RB racing pumps cannot be mounted above the turbo. So I had to go to the 3rd best one which is the Mocal/Tilton/Flojet pump. It is basically a Shurflo that can handle higher temps. It also has a built in fan which keeps the motor cool. I put it in and it smokes less but there is still oil in the exhaust. So this means the seals in the turbo are bad.
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ughh, well i guess i was partially right...

it takes some time getting all that oil out of the muffler tho...so you might want to give it a couple days of driving before you TOTALLY say the turbo seels are bad...
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Well it smoked under boost in 3rd gear and that was it. Plus I need a tune before I keep going into boost. I will decide on tuesday if I am gonna take it off(just for temp, don't worry
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I wish I didn't buy that one turbo and I would have just rebuilt the other one.
I still might just do that. If they send me a replacement turbo I think I will just sell it and rebuild my other turbo myself. I will buy a digital caliper and make sure everything is in spec.
I still might just do that. If they send me a replacement turbo I think I will just sell it and rebuild my other turbo myself. I will buy a digital caliper and make sure everything is in spec.
I would give it like a week before all that imo. I almost sent my turbo in to get rebuilt but it was new. I put a restrictor on and shortened the oil drain hose since it had a slight dip it it causing some of the oil to back up. It would smoke a bit in boost before that. Just make sure all that oil burns off cause you seem to be spending alot of money right now.
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Yeah, ima give it a few days just incase. But I dunno, I could see the oil on the pipe and it drips out and gets all on the back of my car(due to the air flow out of the muffler and the vaccum the back of the car has as you increase speeds)
When I had my DSM, I ran an authentic (not eBay knock-off) Apexi turbo timer without any problems whatsoever. It doesn't have a lot of features, but it gets the task of a turbo timer done just fine.
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So so far so good. Got a .020 restrictor on it lol. Dunno how long that will last
But I just need it to drive home and back(270 miles). I don't need to enter boost.
But I just need it to drive home and back(270 miles). I don't need to enter boost.
If u ever floor it and suddenly hear the turbo change pitch (deeper) while still at WOT. let off instantly. It means blades be touching the wall from bearings not getting enough oil.
How are u guys mounting your pumps? i bolted mine to the spare tire well and inside the cabin sounds like my damn sub woofer is on full blast lol
How are u guys mounting your pumps? i bolted mine to the spare tire well and inside the cabin sounds like my damn sub woofer is on full blast lol
If u ever floor it and suddenly hear the turbo change pitch (deeper) while still at WOT. let off instantly. It means blades be touching the wall from bearings not getting enough oil.
How are u guys mounting your pumps? i bolted mine to the spare tire well and inside the cabin sounds like my damn sub woofer is on full blast lol
How are u guys mounting your pumps? i bolted mine to the spare tire well and inside the cabin sounds like my damn sub woofer is on full blast lol
sounds like a intermittent hissing....did the same thing with my previous turbo tho i think....but it never does it at WOT...
I have my pump hooked up like yours...except i got sick of the noise so i unbolted it and layed it on a towel...u can barely hear it with the car off now...not the safest or prettiest way to do it, but its been laying on that towel for over a year now haha...it doesnt really move around at all even while getting spirited on freeway on ramps...so yea...
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I need to remount mine, but it is in the same spot.
I need a new BOV, my SSQV is not opening causing surging FTL. I guess I shoulda researched it more. Seems they fail often.
I need a new BOV, my SSQV is not opening causing surging FTL. I guess I shoulda researched it more. Seems they fail often.
crap u have a 825hp supra?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfsD-...eature=related
Sounds like that = fail!!!! Do you guys think I can fix? I cannot enter boost anymore, I don't wanna damage anything!
Sounds like that = fail!!!! Do you guys think I can fix? I cannot enter boost anymore, I don't wanna damage anything!
Wow that sounds pretty bad...
I Always thought the SSQV was suposed to kinda sound like that tho, not THAT bad...but i always have heard the SSQV sound similar to that, with what sounds like minor fluttering sort of....
I have had mine for almost 2 years now, and like i said i get a little flutter SOMETIMES, but nothing that i ever was concerned about...it is very minor and inconsistent...never really concerened me..
I Always thought the SSQV was suposed to kinda sound like that tho, not THAT bad...but i always have heard the SSQV sound similar to that, with what sounds like minor fluttering sort of....
I have had mine for almost 2 years now, and like i said i get a little flutter SOMETIMES, but nothing that i ever was concerned about...it is very minor and inconsistent...never really concerened me..
My thoughts exactly...the sound in the video, you can def hear some flutter however...the SSQV has never sounded that pronounced whenever i have heard it...but thats what im saying...it sounds like turbo flutter normally...thats just the sound of the HKS SSQV i thought
Yeah thats not good at all man, Kev dont get into boost if ur getting that issue. When i had mine i was driving around thinking it was normal, then lowerd the windows and heared the sound coming from the back!! so all that time it was surge. so i ditched it and went back with the RFL, which probably flow's more. soon will be putting the Tial 50mm for even more venting
I have mine running along the front wire harness and to the rear passenger side of my VI...i know most people run it directly to the port right behind the TB...Mine was broken so i had to find another alternative...maybe the distance in the line makes a difference?
I also know that when i forgot to put in my vacum line for my boost guage that boost leak with the line unplugged caused REALLY bad fluttering...Im thinking that the HKS SSQV is just overly sensitive to any kind of air leak. i had a screw in there plugging the line for a day till i came back home to run it in the gauge again and i guess it was still leaking a little bit, cause the flutter didnt completely go away untill i ran it to the guage...maybe the screw i used allowed a little bit of air to leak thru...
I duno...just a thought...i find it hard to believe that the BOV is the problem 100%




