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Old 01-16-2010, 11:13 PM
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Very very Low Compression (mind boggling)

K, well let me get started..
It was about 3 months ago since i last drove my car. The battery was dead and well i was to lazy to take it to get charged. Well about 3 weeks ago i went got the battery charged..tried to turn the car on..and it keep cranking but never turned on. So i left it as it was. Yesterday i decided to try it again..again didnt wanna turn on. Brought a buddy of mine over to check the compression..and...it was horrible! #1 40 #2 80 #3 50

My question is..what could it have been? I know i was running rich before i stopped it..so i may have ring washed.But to go from running to not even turning over..?? Im suppose to tow it to a show to get the valves checked... So..can i re order rings? My motor is built and it would be ashamed for it to be a loss..

Another, if it is lost, i guess i ll be doing the 3.5 swap, any idea where to get a good priced motor/internals?
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Old 01-17-2010, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NoMam
K, well let me get started..
It was about 3 months ago since i last drove my car. The battery was dead and well i was to lazy to take it to get charged. Well about 3 weeks ago i went got the battery charged..tried to turn the car on..and it keep cranking but never turned on. So i left it as it was. Yesterday i decided to try it again..again didnt wanna turn on. Brought a buddy of mine over to check the compression..and...it was horrible! #1 40 #2 80 #3 50

My question is..what could it have been? I know i was running rich before i stopped it..so i may have ring washed.But to go from running to not even turning over..?? Im suppose to tow it to a show to get the valves checked... So..can i re order rings? My motor is built and it would be ashamed for it to be a loss..

Another, if it is lost, i guess i ll be doing the 3.5 swap, any idea where to get a good priced motor/internals?
your right, thats seriously low, now are you sure you did the compression test properly?
are all 6 cylinders showing the same or just those 3?

Does the starter turn the motor or not even? Id say there other problem rather than low compression, something electrical.
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:50 AM
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I didnt bother checking the other 3. It used to turn the motor, but i guess now it wont even. I smell gas
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:54 AM
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Whats the prognosis?
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Old 01-17-2010, 12:01 PM
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try changing the oil. maybe you have a bunch of gas in the oil.
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could it be my cam position sensor?

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Old 01-18-2010, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NoMam
I didnt bother checking the other 3. It used to turn the motor, but i guess now it wont even. I smell gas
The motor does not turn anymore at all? how were you able to test compression? if the starter was weak and not turning properly you cant possibly get a good compression results. You need to get a few good turns like 4 or 5.
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turn over = the engine actually turns.

turn over != start.

Your engine turns over but does not start.

Compression numbers that low are somewhat normal on a cold engine that's been sitting for days/weeks/months.

Since you smell gas, I'm betting it's not your crank angle sensor- well at least not the one that controls the fuel injectors. it could be in the ignition.
pull a coil off and stick a plug in it and touch the plug's ground strap to the block and crank the engine. see if you get a spark.


If/when you get the engine running again, let it warm up and then redo the compression test. while the engine is cranking, be sure to hold the gas pedal wide open so it gets proper readings. It will be artificially low if you do it without holding the throttle open because of the vacuum in the intake manifold.
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do you get a backfire while trying to crank it?
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Originally Posted by maxima.713
do you get a backfire while trying to crank it?
After a couple turns, yes..
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
turn over = the engine actually turns.

turn over != start.

Your engine turns over but does not start.

Compression numbers that low are somewhat normal on a cold engine that's been sitting for days/weeks/months.

Since you smell gas, I'm betting it's not your crank angle sensor- well at least not the one that controls the fuel injectors. it could be in the ignition.
pull a coil off and stick a plug in it and touch the plug's ground strap to the block and crank the engine. see if you get a spark.


If/when you get the engine running again, let it warm up and then redo the compression test. while the engine is cranking, be sure to hold the gas pedal wide open so it gets proper readings. It will be artificially low if you do it without holding the throttle open because of the vacuum in the intake manifold.
Thanks, ill try this
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Originally Posted by NoMam
After a couple turns, yes..
your timing has jumped. this is the exact thing that happend to me. i drove to work fine in the morning and when i go to leave in the evening it turned but didnt start. it turned out to be that my timing jumped when i went to crank it.
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Old 01-18-2010, 10:35 PM
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how would i go about unjumping my timing? Sorry, idk what to call it
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you will have to take off your timing cover and put the chain back on time. I would recomend to take it to a shop if you cant do it. if it still jumps time then it might be the tentioner that went out. just replace that and it might work. if it still jumps time then i dont know what to tell you. lol i just replaced my motor after I did all of this and it still jumped time. i was like screw it lets just drop in another motor and now my car is running fine.
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Old 01-19-2010, 06:34 AM
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its probly washed down, take all the plugs out put oil in all 6 cylinders throu spark plug hole and spin car over 4 a few min, but make sure u pull fuel pump fuse, or relay u dont want any fuel going in the engine during the process. when u get all out of engine put plugs back in. u might wanna burn plugs 2 clean b4 u put back in, if they are wet.
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Old 02-16-2010, 11:14 PM
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I forgot to mension this happen before. It happen a couple weeks before i stopped driving it. But i did end up turning on
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Old 02-16-2010, 11:28 PM
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BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG thing add an extra ground from you battery to your tranny and clean the main ground. this fixed my endless turning depression. ohh haha i too was looking at engine woork. id say hold till you figure out the small things, fuel spark air electrical
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:51 PM
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I pulled a coil, put a spark plug in and touched my frame. No spark. Unfortunatly my brother was in a hurry and i wasnt able to check another. Ill try it hopefully later today and see if another does.

If they are, whos selling sum
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Well if i did it right, Only two coils work. One in front, one in back
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Old 02-23-2010, 06:08 PM
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Never Mind, buddy of mine came over and did the first three, all worked. Then the battery died.

He noticed on my EU all four dip switches were off. Are any suppose to be on? I dont recall and i cant find it the write up..
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Will the motor start if my compression was 30 on one and 90 all around?
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Originally Posted by NoMam
Will the motor start if my compression was 30 on one and 90 all around?
From what I've read the cylinders should not be off by more than 15%. So if you are reading 90, 75 would be in the tolerable range, so lower than that would indicate a problem.
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