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Is may sound stupid at first, but are our STS's making us slower in the 1/4?

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Old May 11, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Is may sound stupid at first, but are our STS's making us slower in the 1/4?

I don't know about you guys, but I feel like my B&M STS is slowing down my shifts during the 1/4. After driving my buddy's Maxima with stock shifter, I could immediately shift a LOT faster. Since the 1/4 is all about getting every tenth, I'm thinking about going back to stock.

Has anyone else thought about this?
Old May 11, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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youre supposed to be able to shift faster with an sts, so i would guess that you just need to work on youre technique
Old May 12, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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I'm well aware of the said benefits of a STS. I was wondering if anybody started to feel the same way I do after driving with a STS for some 3 years.
Old May 12, 2006 | 06:25 AM
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Is yours getting sticky or something (bushing/grease wearing out)? My Courtesy one is still quite a bit faster than stock and I would never switch back now.
Old May 12, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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Is yours getting sticky or something (bushing/grease wearing out)? My Courtesy one is still quite a bit faster than stock and I would never switch back now.
I don't think anything changed with my B&M. It just may be the design of it, or maybe my tranny is just unusually notchy to begin with.
Old May 12, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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well i know with some STS they can actually make you a bit slower in the 1/4 because they are sometimes not a precise as the stock shifter, but switch back to stock and see if its any better?
Old May 12, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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I had the Pacesetter shifter for aout 1.5 years and hated the notchiness. I had the B&M for 4 hours and sent it back because it was retarded notchy. I then cut my stock shifter 1" and added a weighted ball shift **** and the feel was awesome. The throws were a bit shorter too, but the notchiness was gone and hitting the shfits was far easier. I was neither slower or faster with the Pacesetter.
Old May 12, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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when u cut the stock shifter would the shifts be the same just ur hand would be lower?
Old May 12, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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i also have the couresy sts and it destroys the stock shifter. does it make me faster in the 1/4 ? i dont think so, but the shifts are quick and on the money. Where as i have driven other cars and can see why some people miss shifts at the track.
Old May 12, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
I had the Pacesetter shifter for aout 1.5 years and hated the notchiness. I had the B&M for 4 hours and sent it back because it was retarded notchy. I then cut my stock shifter 1" and added a weighted ball shift **** and the feel was awesome. The throws were a bit shorter too, but the notchiness was gone and hitting the shfits was far easier. I was neither slower or faster with the Pacesetter.
ah, just the man I was looking to hear from. It was because of you that I originally thought to cut my stock shifter. Now I'm just that much closer. Yes, I'm coming to realize the B&M is just retardedly notchy, and that not every STS feels this bad.
Old May 12, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
I had the Pacesetter shifter for aout 1.5 years and hated the notchiness. I had the B&M for 4 hours and sent it back because it was retarded notchy. I then cut my stock shifter 1" and added a weighted ball shift **** and the feel was awesome. The throws were a bit shorter too, but the notchiness was gone and hitting the shfits was far easier. I was neither slower or faster with the Pacesetter.

My B&M was quite notch for the first day as well and i hated it but then it broke in and now its smooth as butter. You should have kept it longer and let the bushing break in.
Old May 12, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 95maxrider
ah, just the man I was looking to hear from. It was because of you that I originally thought to cut my stock shifter. Now I'm just that much closer. Yes, I'm coming to realize the B&M is just retardedly notchy, and that not every STS feels this bad.

I loved it. All I did was cut the threads off (~1") then put a weighted aluminum ball shift **** on. Overall, the shifter setup was about 1.5" shorter and had about 20% shorter shifts with absolutely none of the vibration and notchiness you get with all the aftermarket shifters. Most importantly, I keeps the same shift pattern and doesn't move the pattern forward like all the aftermarket shifters do. I loved being able to sit back in the seat with my arm on the armrest, flicking the shifter with just my wrist.
Old May 12, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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I've got a short throw in my turbo car just because it was in there when I bought it. I actually bought a stock shifter to replace it with because I don't like how it makes the shifter sit forward, but then I installed an AE LSD transmission which makes the shifter sit backward so the two cancel eachother out. I don't think it makes a bit of difference as far as 1/4 mile performance for me though.
Old May 12, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I've got a short throw in my turbo car just because it was in there when I bought it. I actually bought a stock shifter to replace it with because I don't like how it makes the shifter sit forward, but then I installed an AE LSD transmission which makes the shifter sit backward so the two cancel eachother out. I don't think it makes a bit of difference as far as 1/4 mile performance for me though.
What did you have in your 96?
How, if any, does your shifting differ from your beater to your turbo car? You really think your shifts are identical?
When I drove my car and then a 4th gen with a stock shifter, I was immediately able to shift faster with the stock shifter, and to be honest, it felt a lot faster, especially from first to second.
Maybe my rebuilt tranny was flawed from the start....
Old May 13, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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My courtesy was always somewhat notchy. I don't like to blame failure on mechanical parts but I lost several bracket races because it simply would not go in 2nd or 4th gear. Very frustrating. When I screw up because I redlight or go under my dial-in I have no problem admitting it's my fault but when you lose in the finals for 500 bucks because the stupid thing won't go into gear it tends to slightly **** you off.

But my transmission was always a bit notchy. I hear the 2000-2001 5-speeds are alot smoother because of double synchros. If I had kept this car I would've put an AE trans in it.
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