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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Now, I don't care about NA performance - it's too slow.(don't tell Dandy I said that). My personal goal has been to get into the 12's w/stock ECU and without weight reduction, turbo, supercharger, datalogging, piggybacks, and various pieces of instrumentation. A few engines along the way - OK.
Say what?! N/A is too slow huh... I'm still faster than jooo...

You are getting pretty close now though... just keep adding more spray.. lol.

Haha please don't take me the wrong way, just teasin'... having a little fun... If you can hit 12's that'll be great!

BTW, who says I'm all about N/A? My preference for a modded vehicle is actually a TC. However, I also enjoy the modding progression, and making things better step by step. Yeah it's easy to just slap a turbo on a stock system and go faster, but there's fun to be had in building it up N/A first, pushing the "diminishing returns" limit (for reasonable $$) to see what it'll do, and once that is reached then go beyond with power adders. To each his own.. there's always more than one way to go fast.. usually dependant on how much $$ you have to spend. lol

As for me, the goal for my Max is to run low 11's, maybe 10's (if I get ambitious) by the time I'm done with it. There's a very good chance it will eventually be turbo'd, but I'm not quite finished with N/A setups yet...
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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Say what?! N/A is too slow huh... I'm still faster than jooo...

You are getting pretty close now though... just keep adding more spray.. lol.

Haha please don't take me the wrong way, just teasin'... having a little fun... If you can hit 12's that'll be great!

BTW, who says I'm all about N/A? My preference for a modded vehicle is actually a TC. However, I also enjoy the modding progression, and making things better step by step. Yeah it's easy to just slap a turbo on a stock system and go faster, but there's fun to be had in building it up N/A first, pushing the "diminishing returns" limit (for reasonable $$) to see what it'll do, and once that is reached then go beyond with power adders. To each his own.. there's always more than one way to go fast.. usually dependant on how much $$ you have to spend. lol

As for me, the goal for my Max is to run low 11's, maybe 10's (if I get ambitious) by the time I'm done with it. There's a good chance it may eventually be turbo'd, but I'm not quite finished with N/A setups yet...

Yup, you're quicker as N/A - but my car isn't lightened in any way...... You've done wonders with the EU and tuning, and become one of the resident experts on that subject, which is great. Do you have to factor in the free Canadian air boost?

I don't spend a lot of time on my car - except when figuring something out. I suppose I'll have to make some decisions come next season about which way to go, but having a really quick streetable car that can make a 1000-mile summer trip in full comfort is OK for me right now.

I suppose I could raise the shot-level again, to 175-shot, for the last day. By using the right race gas and shaved-ground plugs and voltage booster, I don't have any ignition problems at 150-shot, and have become very consistent on the track. I'll probably just lean down the A/F on the second stage, though. I do wish I had full headers, though... That alone might bump me into the 12s.... Next year.
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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I am willing to bet if you lean out the second stage and did some weight reduction 12's would not be a problem. I know from my truck which has a carb how important it is to get your r/l mixture right. In my case the truck was not getting enough fuel at high rpms

hope you get the slip b4 the season is out
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
Yup, you're quicker as N/A - but my car isn't lightened in any way...... You've done wonders with the EU and tuning, and become one of the resident experts on that subject, which is great. Do you have to factor in the free Canadian air boost?

I don't spend a lot of time on my car - except when figuring something out. I suppose I'll have to make some decisions come next season about which way to go, but having a really quick streetable car that can make a 1000-mile summer trip in full comfort is OK for me right now.

I suppose I could raise the shot-level again, to 175-shot, for the last day. By using the right race gas and shaved-ground plugs and voltage booster, I don't have any ignition problems at 150-shot, and have become very consistent on the track. I'll probably just lean down the A/F on the second stage, though. I do wish I had full headers, though... That alone might bump me into the 12s.... Next year.

You do realize that Canadian air thing is a myth right? lol It's no better up here than many places down there...
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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You do realize that Canadian air thing is a myth right? lol It's no better up here than many places down there...
Orly, I've heard that Canadian air is 20% nitrous now, so Canadians are faster on their own strips than on USA strips.

Wasn't that why NHRA had national events there, until the local nitrous was depleted and scheduled events were moved back to the lower 48 ???
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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I am willing to bet if you lean out the second stage and did some weight reduction 12's would not be a problem. I know from my truck which has a carb how important it is to get your r/l mixture right. In my case the truck was not getting enough fuel at high rpms

hope you get the slip b4 the season is out
For last Sunday, I wire-brushed the acorn shells out of my slicks. I think that helped some. Truth.

My only hope on Sunday would be to take out the Fosgate sub, spare, jack, back seat, and find a 150lb driver who isn't scared of dying..... That would remove about 200 lbs from the car.

Hummmmmm..... What are you doing on Sunday ?
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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try this trick out one of my friends who drags does this and he says it works great but it will only work 2runs at the track.The night b4 you go to the track spray your slicks with hairspray and let them sit over night.He says it helped him cut better 60ft......just my 2cents doesnt hurt to try it
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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man... all this talk about the track is making me want to go even more. all i need to do is finally change motor mounts and change axles, then i'll be posting here hopefully competeing with you grey!!
btw, since uv done couple 3.0 swaps, u happen to have any front (non electrical) mounts around?
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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try this trick out one of my friends who drags does this and he says it works great but it will only work 2runs at the track.The night b4 you go to the track spray your slicks with hairspray and let them sit over night.He says it helped him cut better 60ft......just my 2cents doesnt hurt to try it
Actually, I have seen the junior dragsters wipe their tires with VHT just before running, and I'm tempted.....

Hair spray, huh? I've got several spray cans that I use with my Idaho Express Spud Gun - maybe that would help - once.. or maybe wash them with acetone.. Trouble is that I pick up a lot of cr*p on the tires from the return road and pits - guess I could wash off the slicks each time before staging... Something else to think over. Thanks.
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
man... all this talk about the track is making me want to go even more. all i need to do is finally change motor mounts and change axles, then i'll be posting here hopefully competeing with you grey!!
btw, since uv done couple 3.0 swaps, u happen to have any front (non electrical) mounts around?
Yeah! bring it on !


I'm sure I probably have some mounts - and the engines they came off of. You looking for the front mount, right?
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
Orly, I've heard that Canadian air is 20% nitrous now, so Canadians are faster on their own strips than on USA strips.

Wasn't that why NHRA had national events there, until the local nitrous was depleted and scheduled events were moved back to the lower 48 ???
lol. Yeah and the rumor that we all live in igloos is just as accurate...

If you are bored go to google maps and look up Sparta, Ontario to see where my closest track is... compare it to the latitude of the N, NE states...
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
That's the Lotus.... it sounded mean, and seemed so .. small... and so cool. That's gotta be a babe magnet, right?
Looks like my friend ran a best on Sunday. His previous best was a 13.18@101mph. He ran a 13.03@105mph on Sunday.

http://www.drjanestewart.com/darksol/showcase.html

I'm sure the car is a babe magnet, but he's a techno-geek with hair plugs so the car won't help him much
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Looks like my friend ran a best on Sunday. His previous best was a 13.18@101mph. He ran a 13.03@105mph on Sunday.

http://www.drjanestewart.com/darksol/showcase.html

I'm sure the car is a babe magnet, but he's a techno-geek with hair plugs so the car won't help him much

Maybe he would loan it to you ???? That really is a great looking car..
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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lol. Yeah and the rumor that we all live in igloos is just as accurate...

If you are bored go to google maps and look up Sparta, Ontario to see where my closest track is... compare it to the latitude of the N, NE states...
Hummm.... in a line with Flint Michigan, Buffalo NY and Boston.. and pretty enough countryside, too. Get many spectators from the states when you're out??

What would it take for me to tow my car into Canada in these times ??

I didn't know you did igloos, too. A man of many talents.
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Originally Posted by grey99max
Yeah! bring it on !


I'm sure I probably have some mounts - and the engines they came off of. You looking for the front mount, right?
Yea, all i need is the front mount as long as its not the electronic type. i ordered ES inserts, but dont have a front mount =(. PM me if you do have one, and tell me how much u would want for it. if you have one. thanx dude.
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Yea, all i need is the front mount as long as its not the electronic type. i ordered ES inserts, but dont have a front mount =(. PM me if you do have one, and tell me how much u would want for it. if you have one. thanx dude.
I looked around, and found a pristine side mount, but no front mount. I'll look some more tomorrow, when the sun's out. There are a couple more places to look - I seem to have a lotta stuff here.
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by icedout
try this trick out one of my friends who drags does this and he says it works great but it will only work 2runs at the track.The night b4 you go to the track spray your slicks with hairspray and let them sit over night.He says it helped him cut better 60ft......just my 2cents doesnt hurt to try it

I went out in the garage and pulled all the plugs for an eyeball - they were all fine after five 150-shot track runs. Whew.

Then I eyeballed the slicks - they had picked up dirt and rocks and generally didn't look too sticky. I rubbed off a part of one slick, and it wasn't sticky. OK - then I got out some acetone, wet a towel, and wiped down a good chunk of the slick and let it dry. It's now sticky to the touch - when you rub it, it feels sticky. That's one thing i'm going to try at the track, before every run - wash the slicks in acetone.

Finally, I looked into the nitrous line - spraying 150-shot means moving a lot of fluid through one 4AN nitrous line 16 feet long. I picked up a shorter piece of nitrous line and blew through it - that was hard - lots of restriction there.

I looked around online and found several 16-foot 6AN lines for "professional racing". I bet these lines are larger inside, and would have less pressure loss. Since the NX lines I have are 4AN, for street use, I think this may be part of my A/F ratio dropping to 10:1 when spraying a 150-shot combo. I should get either one more 4AN 16-foot line, install a big Y-connector at the bottle, and run both lines up to the engine, or install fittings and line for 6AN nitrous feed to the engine. Either way, this should allow more nitrous to flow.

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is there anyway to check nitrous pressure right b4 the nod
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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is there anyway to check nitrous pressure right b4 the nod
It would take an in-line adapter with a 1/8NTP fitting, I think.. But there's no time to watch it while spraying my car - things happen too fast for looking around.

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I was thinking of some idea, I see alot of guy with their fuel pressure gauges sticking out the hood in the drivers view. maybe the gauges have a memory like some tachs than that way you can check what the nitrous pressure was durig the ran. again do not laugh just shooting out ideas that you most likley already thought of
Old Nov 22, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
Hummm.... in a line with Flint Michigan, Buffalo NY and Boston.. and pretty enough countryside, too. Get many spectators from the states when you're out??

What would it take for me to tow my car into Canada in these times ??

I didn't know you did igloos, too. A man of many talents.
Man, I wouldn't know the first thing about building an igloo... you have to go to.. um probably the Arctic circle WAY up north to find those... I've never seen one in person.

It probably wouldn't be a big deal for you to come across the border, many racers from the northern States come up to Ontario tracks for events. Just have your documents in order.. ie passport is probably easiest if you have one, but it might not even be required...
Old Nov 22, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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It probably wouldn't be a big deal for you to come across the border, many racers from the northern States come up to Ontario tracks for events. Just have your documents in order.. ie passport is probably easiest if you have one, but it might not even be required...
Man, that would be fun.... take a month off work in the summer, go walkabout and visit some new strips up north - hummmmm......

Plus I could learn to make an igloo... (you started it!)
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