What would the mag racers say about my car, exactly, pimpin? Just wondering...

Either way, I can get some slips up, his car was running about 2mph quicker on traps in the heat/hotlapping (70-80) last time we night to the track than it did this past weekend. He was still trapping anywhere from 105-106, though. I can "prove" the slips from last night, with a pic of his car if he hasn't washed the number off, but the runs from our last time at the track I'll just hope he saved a pic of his car while we were there.

Oh and just for giggles, he's #58 in alot of those slips that I posted up with the wildly varying times from 13.6 to low 14s. His best runs didn't correspond with my runs, so I'll have to get other slips for ya.

 

Umm...I'm pretty sure the two times that I posted up were regular car guys who took their SS's to the track and ran them. Which has nothing to do with mag racers Oh, and I just looked at the slips and it says he trapped a 102 on the first one and 103 on the 2nd and 3rd one...damn where are the 4-5mph coming from?????

 

His slow *** internet is uploading pictures to photobucket, but I'll prepost the links right now so when they are done uploading they are clickable. The ones with 58 are from this past weekend. The 129s are our last track day.

 

Like i said, all this junk is still uploading... Pics should be done within an hour.

 

99% of that 4-5 mph was from no lifting, which he didn't do in those runs. Slips are uploading man.

 

Here's a vid that we both made it into http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt_FTtMtFwE

He's the red LNF, runs a modded SRT-4 at 3:50

 

damn I wish i could afford juice rite now its definitely on my wishlist... Gota get all the problems fixed on max first though

 

I still just have a hard time believing that car can trap that high whenever it is stock and on previous runs has trapped 101-103 range. You posted the slips so I believe you but it's just very hard to believe. Like I said I wasn't starting an argument I just wanted to see some slips because that's pretty impressive to trap that high in a stock Cobalt. Case closed

 

heres my contribution of the cobalt, this is a few months ago. you can kinda hear the time at the end.
http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...nt=Cobalt2.flv

 

I have the l-spec TS. Its extended rev limiter, and speed limiter removed only, theres no tune involved, and my AFC is not tuned either. I have intake, ssim, NWP spacers, fidanza flywheel, hotshot headers, test pipe, 3" catback, and TS l-spec, UDP.
By the way, the smaller slicks will hurt your MPH, but better 60' and probably 1/8. And you might want to check your A/F ratio. 10.5:1 is EXTREMELY RICH. Not unless your confusing it with your compression ratio.

 

Good wishlist, the VQ seems to LOVE nitrous. My trap speeds (with full exhaust and street tires) last time at rockingham were 100-101. Here I am running nearly 113 on my best run with just open y, slicks, and nitrous as the ONLY changes! Thats less than 1k worth of stuff if you go used.

I gotta say, though... The track is so. much. more fun with slicks... It's like a totally different experience. All the spinning, bogging, avoiding the water box, '60 foot battling is just squashed. I was running very consistent 1.9s while trying to figure out how to launch, and later in the day had 5+ 1.8X '60s. I was still far from launching it hard enough to take full advantage of the slicks (CLUTCH UGH!) and I'm sure this setup is capable of 1.7s.

 

Hey man I agree with you, we make factory freak jokes all the time. I find it hard to believe, but a 3rd gear pull with him with me on street tires and full exhaust and he walks away pretty hard... He's definately got the trap speed in that car. Now give me a proper 3" exhaust, and a TS reflash or UTEC tune, and I should be pretty much dead even with him N/A. The juice is a whole 'nother story.

Either way, He'll never beat me at the track (no chance in hell) until he does something for traction and more power, and he can't fit smaller than 18" wheels up front with those big brembos that came stock. It's a small brake swap for him if he wants to keep up. All that with me upping the shot, getting a new clutch, suspension goodies, and hopefully tuning before next track day, and I'll have a high 11 second car if I can drive it to that. He'll have to turbo swap and get slicks for that!

 

Slicks ftw

 

yeah I do not understand if your trapping 106 and he is 108 how does he pull you so hard what do you trap with street tires and no cutout

although it was not a 08 I ran a cobolt n/a with the 3.0 and mevi and we were side by side and I destroyed him with nitrous, I going to find a cobolt this weekend and report back

 

lol i can arrange something with you and my boy and ill record it

 

Hey man I guess you're having issues with reading comprehension today, but I've stated what my trap speed is with street tires and full exhaust at least twice in this thread.

 

Yeah, traction is killing me right now. I could fit 17's on the front with a little work on finding the correct wheel but even that wont help much.

If you guys still don't believe me I will meet with someone on the forum and let them see my car, inside and out, to prove it is stock. I will even run them if we are at a track. I have nothing to hide.

 

if it's the guy in the vid whats the point, his car is clearly not fast enough

 

No fkin really? Yes, I know what I'm talking about while you try to act like I'm an idiot. How the fk am I going to confuse compression with air fuel? Seriously.... Yes, on the STOCK fuel maps, with my current mods, I had as bad as 10.5:1 A/F up top on the dyno. These cars are rich in the top RPMs stock, but headers make it even worse.

And just like I said, in terms of power mods, you have NOTHING that I don't have except for the TS reflash! I am actually not sure if your hotshot setup is as good (power wise) as my cattman setup... if you really think that flywheel and UDP that you have is a big power mod... and you're acting like I'M stupid? Ok...

Ok man, I have slips that PROVE that my trap speed went up with the slicks DUE TO GEARING. Going from over 26" tires to 24.5" slicks with a smaller contact patch at 19 PSI makes a DIRECT gear ratio change. N/A on street tires I trap at around 5k rpms in 4th.. barely into it, on the slicks, I'm nearly top of 4th before I cross the traps. I'm using more of my powerband with lower gears without having to add another shift, which decreases my time.

I've posted the proof that my traps went up 3 mph N/A going from street tires to slicks, this isn't a debate. I have posted the information that I gathered while testing the setup, and if you want to believe it then go for it, but to come in here and look at the slips, then say "no you're wrong" wtf!?

 

actually it was a 2.3 60 ft.
so with a .2 second slower 60 ft., and only an SSIM and colder plugs over me, you got the same 1/4 mile time and 4 mph faster? wow... not calling you a liar, but very interesting... you ever been dynoed with either of those mods?

 

my slips:

 

dude come on, READ!!!! I trapped 100-101 with my full exhaust with only the SSIM over you. 10 hp generally equals about 1 mph, so that sure seems pretty even if you're trapping top 99s. I unbolted the Ypipe (ran OPEN ypipe) at the track and picked up 3 MPH on my traps with street tires. So apparently, freeing up the exhaust was huge on my car. I still run the stock B-pipe, maybe that's why....

Either way, add it up. With SSIM and the gains I showed from an open Ypipe, you should pick up around 4 mph as well.

 

oh ok.. well, you didnt say you did all that on that particular run.. you said you did that stuff on a 1/8th mile run earlier this month

so on that run with the 2.5 60ft and 14.2 @103, thats when you unbolted the y-pipe?

 

Multiple times in this post, I've told you EXACTLY what mods that I had at the track during my N/A runs this last weekend. I wasn't hiding or leaving anything out.

When I went to the 1/8th mile, I did not unbolt my Ypipe or anything... the 8.8s at 80.5 mph were with 2.0 '60 foots (track prep) on my street tires which equates to about 13.6@100-101 mph.

I will repeat all this once more, for additional clarfication:

12/6/2008 track day:

Mods on car: SRI, SSIM, SPACERS, CATTMAN GEN 3 HEADERS+Y-PIPE, 1-STEP COLDER PLUGS, NX 75-SHOT, 24.5x8x15" M/T ET DRAGS, OPEN YPIPE (UNBOLTED).

As soon as I went through tech, I grabbed a gallon of sunoco 104, unbolted my ypipe, and threw on the slicks. I ran on slicks the ENTIRE night, with 2 N/A runs and probably 10 nitrous runs. I changed to street tires for 1 N/A run at the end, in which I told you I ran the 14.2@103.5. That makes it pretty obvious that all the other mods were left in place, including the open Ypipe.

 

So can anybody tell me what gives with all this? I mean in Jime's post, a few people called BS and said he was hiding mods b/c he ran a 10.8@125 with a 75 shot... OK, I get that...

I ran a normal N/A bolton + traction time, and a normal 75 shot + traction time, with plenty of proof minus ACTUAL videos, and plenty of people who are active on this forum who saw it and know what mods I have, and all this crap talk and BS calling? Sheesh...

I invite ANY of you guys to come inspect my car for mods and take a trip to the track with us to settle whatever has butthurt you about my post or times.

 

i'm not calling bs on you man... i was just interested in what you had and a little confused by your posts.. originally i thought you only had an SSIM and colder plugs over me that gave you 4 mph faster than me with a worse launch and same 1/4 mile.. so it was obvious why i would question that.. then you pointed out that you unbolted your y-pipe, and that's what made the huge difference.. i must have missed that in the previous posts, and i definitely was not aware that something as simple as unbolting an exhaust pipe could make such a huge difference in the 1/4 mile, and give you 4 mph on your trap time

 

Nice runs....sounds like a REALLY fun car to drive

 

there is some power to be gained for some cars when they add an exhaust cut-out, so y not unbolting the exhaust, u know what i mean? you guys are also forgetting to consider track conditions, driver mod, etc. not everyone with the same mods are gonna run the same times. take neals stock 4th gen beater for example running 14.5 i believe at 95mph. ive NEVER trapped that high yet and i have a mevi WITH extended rev. it sucks i know, but its the sad truth.

 

honestly I think this is why everyone was questioning your mods, cause before you tuned your car with the vafc2 you only trapped at 96mph and even with the tune you only trapped at 99mph

and now your saying with the same mods at when you trapped 96mph all you did was install colder plugs and drop your y-pipe you picked up 10mph

I am not doubting the times just the mods although what you said about the smaller size of the slicks working out to much better gearing makes alot of sense. I did not know 5.5gen guys go thur the traps at around 4k, looks like jime was really on to something back when he had a 5.5gen

 

Im starting to think those time slips were computer generated. damn photoshop..

 

never paid attention to the rpm gauge crossing the line, but i'm definitely in 4th gear for a nice little bit before the finish line

 

LMAO!!!! Ok tuff guy, you win! I'm not trying to attack you in anyway. Im just asking questions to see if im doing something wrong and/or how to better my track times. I complimented you on your times, but you must think im out to prove you wrong or something. No need to get emotional on me!!
I agree, but if it is 10.5:1, your car has alot more in it! With that ratio, it should be falling on its face!
Well.. you make the call on this one. Check the dyno section! I made 6whp and 11wtq with the flywheel alone!
But theres no need in me whoring your thread! I'll be down that way in the spring. Maybe we can hit a track and discuss this in person!
Congrats on the times again

 

I would be happy to show you, man... I hope you have a video camera so you can record it to squash all this BS calling. Can any of the local guys who were there chime in for confirmation?

 

I would luv to be there to see this car run again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM7_4zvznYE

 

Gotta say, guys that the slicks are the huge mod that made me soooo much faster this time. It just feels SO FAST when I'm clutch dumping it at 4-5k rpms and dead hooking straight to the redline in first gear with a 75 shot spraying in at 2k rpms.... I think I'm simply gaining speed much earlier and getting much much better ETs and higher traps. I'm telling you the slicks gave me 2-3 mph trap over my street tires and obviously the second faster in ET.

 

Did you eat paint chips as a child?

 

damn, i didnt think this would call for some confirmation but i guess it does huh? i already showed a video of Marcus running a 13.4 and people still probably wont believe it, lol. but as for your times, i'll try....its just hard b/c i never line up with you so i dont have your slips, and all of the videos i have only say your time, and not your trap.

but maybe i just dont know my 5.5 gens. ok, u trapped near 100 mph back in october, ran a 14.0-14.1 or so (which was already slow to begin with for your car) now, you unbolt your exhaust and its wayyyyy colder outside, plus you have the slicks with smaller diameter, who knows about any other track condition or other factors....it sounds good to me.

Guys, we've already provided "non-computer generated" time-slips (thats a pretty stupid accusation in itself), some pictures, and i know i have a crappy video, but what else do you want? do we need to go out and take a video of his car and all of his mods one by one?

 

Jokes from the 80's FTL...

 

It's definately my old bad runs when I was still learning to track the car that are making it seem like a big deal. In all honesty I'm running mild times compared to some of the other 5.5 gen guys that have had traction mods at the track... look at jay_pee running 12.8s with only boltons, "no tune", and DRs... whereas I have slicks, which hook world's better. I did almost a full .4 seconds SLOWER than him while N/A on slicks, which should be giving me a big advantage over him, so he power advantaged me enough to still finish with a .3 faster ET.

 

Making false, idiotic accusations "FTL"... Idiot.