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Old 08-19-2009, 07:02 PM
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Video @ Milan/ looks like I need slicks to break into the 12's

Hi Guys: I went to the track last week w/ my son, and both of use did not get a good ET, his ET was in the 2.3 60' on MT street tires, and I did 2.35 & 2.48, and what ever I do I break loose 1st & 2nd w/ Nittos DR 20psi, and the Tockico Illumina adjusted @ fronts 3 rears 5. Any input will be appreciated .

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What was your et? It sounded like you broke your tires loose fairly easily. What you said at the end of the vid says it all! You need slicks. I'm in the same boat with my nitrous kit. I don't have the traction to handle the power. Sweet car by the way!
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What did your run?? That vid was like watching a real good show and when it gets to the climax the power goes out.
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All I have to say is your son's Civic is definitely laying down some good numbers to be trapping 120mph, very impressive. I'm willing to bet you pulled some pretty crappy times because everytime you cut it off and everytime the Civic ran you showed them. Post 'em up...they can't be that bad...
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Hey man come on down to martin and let me drive it. I will get it in 12's without slicks. Now i will tell ya it took me getting slicks to hit 12's but my power band is a whole lot different than yours. On a serious note, call my cell man. We can setup a time to go to martin or stanton. Either or.
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Yeah.... where's the end of the vid. Sweet that you are super charged though. Strange how everyone got a jump on the Civic, why was that? Spinning out of the hole?

The Mustang that gave you a tight race, was that Cobra?
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Originally Posted by ajcool2
What did your run?? That vid was like watching a real good show and when it gets to the climax the power goes out.


+ 1....
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Nice set up, but you are going to have a hard time catching traction on any sort of tire with 20 psi. I went down to 18psi at MAXUS and could not catch traction, I was lowering them to 15 psi just before I got thrown out. I am guessing you make more power than I do looking at your set up, I would defiantly try 15 or a little lower psi before you give up on the drag radials. I ran 13.1x @~108 with a 2.3x 60' when the car was hot. I am sure you can dip into the 12's with my current set up, and judging by your power levels you should be able to too.
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Yea, drag radials put them into the dumpster. Go get some slicks. Best I did is 12.9 @ 116mph with drag radials and spinning all of first and second. I`m switching to slicks, too.
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Originally Posted by pimpin02max
All I have to say is your son's Civic is definitely laying down some good numbers to be trapping 120mph, very impressive. I'm willing to bet you pulled some pretty crappy times because everytime you cut it off and everytime the Civic ran you showed them. Post 'em up...they can't be that bad...
yes mine was crappy #s, and my Son trapped last year w/ slicks 11.79 with less power(375whp), now he is @415whp.
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
Hey man come on down to martin and let me drive it. I will get it in 12's without slicks. Now i will tell ya it took me getting slicks to hit 12's but my power band is a whole lot different than yours. On a serious note, call my cell man. We can setup a time to go to martin or stanton. Either or.
I will try next week to go to the track, and lower the tires to15psi,and adjust the front struts to 5, and see what happens. What is your trick that you can get it in to the 12s?
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Originally Posted by 1swtmax
Yea, drag radials put them into the dumpster. Go get some slicks. Best I did is 12.9 @ 116mph with drag radials and spinning all of first and second. I`m switching to slicks, too.
My best last year w/ less power, 13.36 @106.87 w/ BFG DR., with some traction problem. but this time it is pathetic.
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Originally Posted by scmax2000
I will try next week to go to the track, and lower the tires to15psi,and adjust the front struts to 5, and see what happens. What is your trick that you can get it in to the 12s?
Well i just have mo seat time than some thats all. It takes time to figure where to launch it and what not.
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Originally Posted by 1swtmax
Yea, drag radials put them into the dumpster. Go get some slicks. Best I did is 12.9 @ 116mph with drag radials and spinning all of first and second. I`m switching to slicks, too.
WOOT!!!! I have been wanting to hear what you ran with the turbo setup...I know your not happy with that time but that's because of the traction, what I was really looking for anyway was the trap speed. 116mph is really good, that's definitely a low 12 car the way it sits.
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DRs can work just fine you just have to learn to pedal the car some, can't just mash it and go. Most people don't bother to try to learn how to do that though. I pulled mid 1.9s on my Nitto DRs, pedalling.

You are also running too much pressure in them in my opinion, but that pressure difference won't cure your launches, it's just icing on the cake when you get a proper launch technique down. There's no reason you shouldn't be cutting at least 2.1s on those tires, with an average launch. 2.3s and 2.3s just show that you need more track time on them.

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Old 08-21-2009, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
DRs can work just fine you just have to learn to pedal the car some, can't just mash it and go. Most people don't bother to try to learn how to do that though. I pulled mid 1.9s on my Nitto DRs, pedalling.

You are also running too much pressure in them in my opinion, but that pressure difference won't cure your launches, it's just icing on the cake when you get a proper launch technique down. There's no reason you shouldn't be cutting at least 2.1s on those tires, with an average launch. 2.3s and 2.3s just show that you need more track time on them.
Yea, I pulled a 2.1 60' while spinning and I`m not even shot shifting into 2nd and still spins all the way. But shift into 3rd then she ****s and gets. So I don`t know if I had to buy tires all over again I would buy slicks.
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I would never buy DRs as track tires for a FWD car, I used them as street tires and only used them at the track when I didn't feel like putting the slicks on. DRs are definitely better than street tires but nowhere near as good as slicks on high powered FWD cars.
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Ummm, yea that what I was telling the op. Not to go with DRs, and go with slicks at the track. As I already found out.
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I was agreeing with you.........
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Nice setup. Def get some slicks.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I would never buy DRs as track tires for a FWD car, I used them as street tires and only used them at the track when I didn't feel like putting the slicks on. DRs are definitely better than street tires but nowhere near as good as slicks on high powered FWD cars.
Hi Neal:
What psi to have on DR's, and on Slicks? Thanks.
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My DRs were at 12psi that day according to the timeslips (I write on each one the details of the run) and slicks I run about 11psi. I usually start a couple PSI higher, like 13psi or 14psi, and drop half pound increments until my times stop improving or I start to see the trap speed go down. My runs are generally consistent enough on a tire that I can tell when I've reached the optimum tire pressure.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
My DRs were at 12psi that day according to the timeslips (I write on each one the details of the run) and slicks I run about 11psi. I usually start a couple PSI higher, like 13psi or 14psi, and drop half pound increments until my times stop improving or I start to see the trap speed go down. My runs are generally consistent enough on a tire that I can tell when I've reached the optimum tire pressure.
Thanks you for the info.
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scmax, what were your trap speeds btw. I'm at work and can't watch streetfire vids.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
scmax, what were your trap speeds btw. I'm at work and can't watch streetfire vids.
It was low 103.54....
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Looked like faster than 2.3 60' time in the video, fast car that needs traction.




Originally Posted by scmax2000
Hi Guys: I went to the track last week w/ my son, and both of use did not get a good ET, his ET was in the 2.3 60' on MT street tires, and I did 2.35 & 2.48, and what ever I do I break loose 1st & 2nd w/ Nittos DR 20psi, and the Tockico Illumina adjusted @ fronts 3 rears 5. Any input will be appreciated .

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