ray_289

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my car hasnt been starting...it stopped starting back
in april and i kinda just left it there..it atempts
to start but it dosent turn over...i remember someone
saying to spray intake manifold cleaner into the
throttle body.. so i tried that today and it
worked..the car ran for about 6 seconds then it shut
off...i kept doing it a couple times and the ran for a
few seconds off of the intake cleaner..

...i then tried starting the
car witout the cleaner and it ran for about 1
second...any ideas on wuts rong with my car...my friend said my fuel pump may be bad or my injectors...

thanks for any responses

cardana24

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when you turn you key to the on position do you hear the fuel pump buzzing? If not then your fuel pump has died

ray_289

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yea just cheked and i hear the pump come on..

cardana24

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possibly fuel filter? Make sure you wire going to your coil is on good and tight and there is no corrosion on it.

ray_289

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ware is my fuel filter located...ware is the coil located and wut does it look like...iam new to all of this...

thanks

cardana24

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damn man The fuel filter is on the fire wall, the coil is right behind the passanger side head light it black and it has a spark plug wire going from it to the dist. cap.

if you cannot find the fuel filter, follow the fuel lines

also if you pick up a haynes manual from advanced auto that would probably help you out a lot.

ray_289

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k i found da coil and i made sure the wire was tight...ware on the fire wall is the fuel filter located(like drivers side or passenger side) and wut does it look like...and how would i tell if its bad...sorry for any stupid questions

ray_289

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i was playina round with the car today and i got it to run for a good 30seconds but it was running off of the intake cleaner...so i take it the car is not getting any fuel...so iam pretty sure its the fuel pump..fuel filter or somtin to do witht he injectors
any ideas

cardana24

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the fuel filter is round in shape and if I remember correct it is on the driver side of the fire wall. Also something you may want to check is to see if you Injector recall has been done, just call 1-800-NISSAN1 and give them your VIN, you can find out if your car has had the recall done.

ray_289

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thanks...how would i check the fuel filter to see if its bad or not...also i have a feeling its the fuel pump because when i turn the key to the ON position i hear the pump come on but i dont hear the hissing sound of the fuel moving that i ussaly would hear..

cardana24

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If you are going thru the trouble of checking the fuel filter I would just change it. Make sure you bleed your fuel system of pressure before you do this. But according to you it sounds like you pump is bad so you don't really need to change your filter, but this is something that is considered regular maintence.

ray_289

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how much and how hard is it to change teh fuel filter...my uncle who is a mechanic is coming over tommorw so he'll be able to help me out...is there anything special i should ask him to check?

cardana24

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If he is a mechanic then ask him why your car won't start

changing the fuel filter is not hard, if you do not mind getting a little gas on you

ray_289

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lol good idea cardana...thanks for the help...he'll be here by tommorw afternoon

ray_289

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my uncle was here...and he said the fuel pump is the problem....he said to take off teh cover for the fuel pump and sand down the corrosion on the pump and see if that works if not change the pump...i sanded the corrosion down..but still the same problem ..i didnt wanna mess with the wires cuz i was unsure whether they come out or not... is there anything else i can do to it to see if i can get it working before i buy a new pump?


thanks

ray_289

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....bump....

VideoMan

Check a little further down in the threads for one that says something like:

My 87 won't start....help You might be able to get some help there.

ray_289

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i kno y it wont start..the fuel pump is bad or somtings rong with it...iam asking wut are things i can do to check it to see if it can be fixed..like how my uncle said to sand down the corrosion iam wondering if theres any thing else i can do besideds that

cardana24

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if it will not turn on and your connection is good I would just replace it...if anything else just for peice of mind so you know its not going to go out again when you are not close to home

ray_289

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dats true...ill have to hit uip a junk yard around here sometime then...any idea how much it should cost...i dont want to be over charged

cardana24

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cargo pants

j/k, I can't imagine it costing very much. I have never bought one used but I would get maybe $10?

ray_289

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aright thanks cardana

Maximum Tune

I would also check the plugs to see if they are fouled. I have a first gen that I got and I had to use starting fluid to get it to start a little. I pulled the plugs and they were coated with oil! If this is the case, then you should clean the plugs or get new ones. If the engine fouls them again, as was my case, then get some anti-foulers and put them in something like cylinders 1-3-5 or 2-4-6 (you can only put them in half the engine's cylinders). Start it with some fluid and then just keep it going and take it for a trip of about 10 miles on surface streets (it worked for me) with the RPM's in a high range, as in not shifting into 4th gear and staying in 3rd. After that if the other plugs in the engine stay clean, you can remove the anti-foulers.

I did that, the motor now will start fine and the plugs are clean.

ray_289

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has anyone changed there fuel pump before...theres wires that go from the pump to the car and i have no idea how to take em out..they dont budge at all when i try to move them and i dont wanna damage the wires...any ideas?

ray_289

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i found my dads old chilton manual and it helped me out

i disconnected the wire...and i got 4 of the 6 bolts out...but one of the bolts are in a tight spot and it got stripped a lil bit while i was trying to take it out..any one have any idea on how i can take this bolt out with out stipping it completly? other than the bolt problem i dont have any other issues with taken the pump out

Maximillion87

hey all, I have an 1987 NIssan Maxima..silver with grey leather interior. I am looking to sell this vehicle because I am tired of putting money into it and I have a new car. Recently it has had a valve job, new rack and pinion, tie end rods/ tie rod ends (whatever they're called), new bushing for the gear selector, new water pump/timing belt (most recent repair), and new struts on all four wheels. Recently the car would not start and I do not want to fork over the money to the mechanic to fix it. It could be one of three things, the alternator, battery, or starter, but the car would not start with a jump so I'm guessing it's the alternator or starter. I live in Riverside California and you would have to find a way to transport the vehicle since is does not start. I'm asking 1,000 obo. The body is in good shape and the car looks good, my parents are the original owner of the car, then passed on to me, and it has been in the family since..let me know if ur interested. Oh and it has 225,000 miles.

ray_289

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how bout u try the f/s forums and not the thread i created

ray_289

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is there any way i can take out the stipped bolt?

cardana24

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vise grips......

ray_289

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i tried the vise grips but there isnt enought room for them to turn...and when it dosent turn it slides on the bolt....how else can i take dis bolt out i cant belive it takes this much to take out a damn fuel pump..

sorry just a lil pissed

thanks for any responses

turboast4

There's a product out there made by the same people who make the real Vise Grips (Irwin is the company name, IIRC) for removing damaged or stripped bolts. It is a set of sockets that cut into the head of the bolt to grip it and remove it. It's similar to the sockets used to cut into and remove wheel locks if you lose the key. It costs around $25 for the set of 4-5 of sockets, I believe. We sell it at Pep Boys where I work, you could probably find it at a hardware store or Sears or something too. I've never tried them, but have heard they work really well. Might be worth checking out.

Good luck.

ray_289

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thanks ill check out sears

UberZogster

ya, I would have to go with vise grips, or if you could get a new bolt cut it.

Helmuth48

Try spraying the bolt with a good "rust spray" ...Liquid Wrench and let it sit overnight.....then what I have done with bolt heads that are rounded and can get with the VG.....get a small sharp metal chisle and hit the corners using a hammer.....and yes be careful not to create a spark...it is a gas tank..surround it with a damp rag.......Once it loosens...then maybe the Vice Grips can get it....

Helmuth48

Oh ya.... make sure you are hitting the bolt head in the right direction...
Rightie Tightie....Lefty Loosey

myles

take a welder and melt your fuel pump bolts out! should work well.

ray_289

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if only i had a welder