maximum_mxma89

Ok. i have and 89 maxima se. im trippin out over how fast it is. i have beat every car that i have raced. i dont belive how fast this car gets up and going. its understandable when i beat all the celicas and hondas. i bet my dad that i could beat him in his 2002 210 hp toyota avalon. i freakin beat him off the line. so at this point i was getting an ego and i offered to race my friend in his 2000 chevy silverado. now his truck has 280 damn horses under the hood and i still beat him. i really dont get this. how can my little maxima be so damn fast? someone told me its only 160 hp but i know its a lot more than that. does anybody know exactly what engine is in an 89 se? thanks!

maximum_mxma89

oh and the only mod i have is a stillen air intake.

DA-MAX

iTrader: (10)

VG30E ....don't get your ego up too high, the VG tends to let you down after you realize its not that fast.

maximum_mxma89

you know how much horsepower?

ChrisCheezer

Stock VG
165 HP.
185 trq.... thats y you have been kickin a$$, how many miles does it have?

tafan321

"horsepower sells the cars, torque wins races"

OptimusPrime

160 horses at 5200 rpm and 182lb. ft of torque at 3200 rpm. the max in stock form is quick, but not fast. and if you think yours is fast, look at the 92-94 se's, they make 190 horsepower and 190 lb. feet. i dont mean to put you down, i know how exciting it is to feel the need for speed, but once you drive a truly powerful and fast car, youll understand what i mean. also remember that the avalon and chevy are very heavy, and have automatics, that has alot to do with why you beat them, especially off the line

maximum_mxma89

first off my max is an auto too and the same weight as an avalon. but also, when looking at car domain, my engine looks like the ones in the 92-94's and when i bought the car the owner said it had a new stock engine in it. so im guessing they put the 92-94 engine in. it has about 6,000 on the new engine but the odo reads 153,000 original miles. so that probably means i have the 190 hp engine i guess?!?

CHIMAIRA90

yeah bro. i've got a '90 GXE. K&N intake...3A racing exhaust. but before i put those on there...i could beat mostly everything. integras, civics, celicas, lancers, and even a '98 maxima. (by a hair) maxima's are the most under-rated cars bro. honda may make the BEST 4 cyl. engine, but nissan's got 'em on the v6. to boost up more horses, get unorthadox pulleys, they weight 3lbs less that OEM.

MrGone

iTrader: (30)

ever heard of a SR20? honda makes good lawn equipment and generators.

Enjoy that VG or VE of yours, Either way there good motors and great cars.

Torque is the secret behind success
Our Durango has 300ft/lbs at 3200 factory, and just 235 hp. funny thing is that it beats 285hp expiditions, and even some claiming 325hp.
oh well.
MrGone

tafan321

wanna hear something funny? well i beat most of you all know this...
honda retards think torque has nothing to do with racing ... they all think that HP is the only thing that has to do with anything...

OptimusPrime

yeah, my bad, the early models of the avalon are the same weight as the max. the newer ones are something like 2-300 pounds heavier though.

but yeah, the max engines are very well engineered. nissan makes some awesome motors. no matter if you have a vg or ve, both are built like a brick

maximum_mxma89

do you have more power when you drive with overdrive on or off?

maximum3rdgen

no offense to some of the former and knowledgable member posting here but most of this thread has been overrun by noobs.

KLoWnPR109

iTrader: (9)

I dont think I've ever heard anyone refer to the VG autotragic as fast in stock form

Anyways, take your racing to the track and you will realize what your car runs.

maximum_mxma89

track? how bout the freeway. i hit the pedal to the floor and im at 110 in a very little amount of time. thats why i think my engine is above the rest. weird. i need to drive another maxima se to see if its just my engine.

KLoWnPR109

iTrader: (9)

I know where you are coming from. I was in the race mode awhile back before I realized the my car is slow If you ever get busted on the freeway, come back here so I can say I told you so.

Just be careful out there beating up on all those other cars.

Agamemnon

Heh, I have a VE 5-speed, and it ain't so fast...

Actually it's OK when it's running properly. Unfortunately when I slam on the gas pedal there's maybe 50/50 (60/40?) chance it'll stall/hesitate instead! But if it decides to go, it's reasonably fast.

todamax

iTrader: (6)

If you've got an '89-91 and '92-'94 GXE you have the VG with 160HP, if you have a '92'-94' SE you habr the VE with 190HP.

A VG auto is not fast. A VE is pretty quick, but really not fast. Fast enough for a smile, but not a Mustang.

Got it?

maximum3rdgen

i happen to think my vg auto when running properly can put a smile on my face see?

maximum_mxma89

well i dont know what any of you people have in mind for a definition of slow, but my car is nowhere near being "slow". i guess i will have to go to midas and have them test my horsepower to see if this new engine is as big as im dreaming it up to be.

James12345

Your car is slow by most standards.

Dont take offense and get yourself educated before you get embarrased. These Integra's and Civics you talk about beating must be ricers. Any reasonably modded and reasonably well driven Si or Teg should surely kill a stock auto VG. Sorry, a 16+ second car is just NOT fast. Period. And again, no offense.

I'm also pretty sure Midas doesnt have a dyno...?

maximum_mxma89

sounds like you dont know what you are talking about. i could kill any honda. thats why i dont understand. i think i might have an engine from a newer model maxima like a 97 or later. ill check it out and get back to you. just because your maxima is slow doesnt mean mine is. dont be jealous. drop a new engine in it and then we can race. how does that sound.

westsider101

RACING IN A HONDA IS LIKE THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS!!


EVEN IF YOU WIN YOUR STILL A RETARD!!!!



HIHIHIHI!!!!!

KLoWnPR109

iTrader: (9)

I'd like to see you race James

SmithAtlanta

Just get it dynoed or take it to the track. The dyno sheet or time slip will be your proof of how fast your car is....... We'll all be waiting for your post.

nubiannupe

iTrader: (9)

IBTL - Ummmm, fellas.... you might wanna tone down that race talk before a certain someone <cough>Matt<cough> decides to end this real quick-like.

nismo1989

I seriously doubt you would have anything other than the VG in there, too much work and not worth the money if you're selling the car.

I remember when I first took my rpm up to 5K and thought I was fast too... for about a week. Oh, and don't get zealous, you couldn't beat me and you surely couldn't beat James. Not hatin, just the facts bro.

Mustangs suck and my wimpy VG beats them. Oh, and my car even after mods costs less. They have the RWD advantage but that's about it. If I drove a Mustang and got beat by a 14 year old FWD Maxima, I'd be pretty embarrassed .

I spent $12K on my Maxima total, and it's still not as fast as I would like.

Midas won't have a dyno. Do an internet search for a shop in your area that has a dyno. Post your numbers and wow us all!

There. I think I said everything I wanted to BTL.

jim90gxe

have you ever thought of down shifting?
at this thread
dyno at midas.. LOL

nismo1989

Freeway? ... how about a jail cell?

If I see you on the road some day racing an Accord, stay out of my way. It might be the smartest thing you've ever done.

This is all you'll see:

DanNY

iTrader: (14)

ok how about this...
i'll take my friend's 2003 BMW M3 SMG up against your VG...we'll race for pink slips (titles)...of course if i win you'll need to put down 50K in cash on top of the title.

i'll even give u a i car length head start.
talk is cheap!

nismo1989

Just as long as you take it to the track...

I would hate to see this kid kill someone or himself, even if it was another punk in a ricer accord.

nubiannupe

iTrader: (9)

In the words of Ludacris:

Move, Beatch!! Get out the way...
Get out the way, Beatch, get out the way!!!

Matt93SE

iTrader: (44)

Before you (or ANY of you guys) talk that much smack about anything, figure out what engine is actually in there, and dyno test that thing.. stock 5spd civics are faster than a VG auto, and there's nothing you can do to argue about it. they've got close to the same horsepower and a lot less weight.
Those of you bragging about torque, it doesn't do squat once a high HP car gets into the proper RPM range. the S2000 doesn't have squat for torque, but get that thing up around 7000RPM and you better get the f*** out of the way.

To all you newbies... VG autos are SLOW!! it doesn't matter what you've done to them, unless you're running turbo or nitrous. otherwise, you'd have to put several grand in the engine just to run 15s. at that point, your transmission won't last more than a few thousand miles, and you'll be spending another grand rebuilding it and $500 more on a modified valve body.

Soooo, unless you've got $5000 under the hood of your VG, don't brag about it being fast.

Proof? Here's your proof:
This is my old GXE, which was pretty fast by VG standards: it runs a mid-high 16 sec 1/4 mile.
http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pic...s/MVC-003W.MPG

This is my VE 5 spd, which is slow by most modded VE standards. it runs 15.0 at the track consistantly: Also keep in mind I was holding the camera with one hand and driving with the other (which is why the shifting sucks)
http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pic...1/MOV00012.MPG

Note in the first video, I was going about 75-80 after 15 seconds- just shifted into 3rd on the auto, which is at 72mph... note in the second one that I was running out of 3rd gear ~100mph after 15 seconds.


Disclaimer.. all "test driving" was done on my own section of private highway. nothing was harmed in the making of those videos other than burning some hydrocarbons and destrying a some tires.

So you newbies, STFU until you can prove it's fast.