What do you guys think about this:

http://www.hekimianracing.com/nissan3lna.html

Check it out and tell me if it's an engine that would work on our Maxima. I e-mailed the website so I let you know what they tell me when they e-mail me back.

 

VERY old news, but and yes it will work if you have a VG Maxima.

 

Dam so it won't work on a VE? Oh well.

THANX SO MUCH

 

Dear Jesus, it would be nice to have a spare $8k lying around... I can only imagine the bulging eyes and dropped jaws were my GXE to leave a few confused people looking at tailights...

 

DAAAAAAMMMMMNNNNNN!!!!!!
300 hp?
and that's non turbo!!!!!!!
all hail

 

IMO...that motor will never be worth the price to swap into a Max! a turbo setup would probably be cheaper and make more power. a decent turbo setup and low CR motor rebuild w/ a set of nice aggressive cams would probably cost less or almost the same and make gobs more power off the break!

 

How much do you guys think i'd be looking at to rebuild the VE with cams, lower compression, wider pistons and the general internals? Would it be worth it? Imagine putting $8000 into the VE? That would be awesome!

 

You guys gotta put this all into perspective. Sure it would be cool to have a 300+ hourse power maxima but dumping more money into a car then its actual worth is not a good idea unless you have money to throw around or perhaps have your own printing press. Just look at the classifieds and you will see a lot of people trying to get back out of their car the money they pored into it.

Think about it this way buy a maxima for 4000 grand and dump 2000 into it and you might be able to get your money back out if you baby your ride.

If you dump 4000 grand into the car then you probably plan on keeping it for years anyway. So you will recoup on your investment with time spent driving and the years of service the car provides. You most likely will not be able to sell your ride for 8000 unless it is show quality.

Dump 8000 into a 4000 dollar car and you will be wishing you had spent that money on a 300zx TT or something else. You will never be able to sell the car for 12 grand unless you find some little rich boy that doesn't want to work on his own ride. On top of that you will probably be trailering your ride everywhere because your so worried about it so you will never get your money back out by using it as a dailey driver.

 

#1 who says you plan to sell the car later? if its paid off and you've dumped crazy cash into it, keep the SOB!!
#2 modding out a Maxima is far more unique than a Z or something to that nature
#3 the whole purpose of modification is to take something regular and make it better...of course its up to you on how far you go, but if we didn't do that this import culture would be dull and boring.

 

exactly i plan on keeping my max for a very very long time i might buy other cars to but not get rid of the max till the goverment bans the use of gasoline which will be awile, so i dont mind dumping gobbes of cash into it but its piontless to spend 8k on 300hp when theres a 4th gen guy pushing 430hp with 12lb a turbo boost on stock motor and trany, although i dont believe it will last long and he proboly didnt dump over 5k in it

 

Me 2, I plan on keeping my max for a long time and if I gather enough cash I'm getting a turbo set-up. Also if I buy a new car and I can keep my 3rd gen I will, as a second car.

 

Before you all start flaming Hekimian, this engine, and their work you must understand this engine was probably made for a spec class race series..

 

high compression engines are generally less reliable because of the high strain on the internal. a turbo engine is a little better because not only does it have low compression you can keep out of the boost or turn it down and make your engine last a little longer.

 

does that come installed for the $9000 pricetag?

 

WTH are you talking about. You just went on the list in OT

 

i'm talking about the downsides of this engine. it has a really high compression which can really shorten the life of the engine.

 

No it won't

 

uh... yes it will. high compression puts more strain on the engine's internals. turbo does too but you aren't constantly running boost making it a little more reliable.

 

what compression is it at? The damn this is BUILT for high compression idiot.

I guess all those Type Rs and M3 engines are all just about to fall apart right now

 

Wouldn't it be logical to assume that this motor comes with internal parts designed to handle the increased strain? This guy wouldn't still be in business if his engines were of poor quality and unreliable.

 

3 liter v6 at 300 hp normally aspirated is probably running at 12:1-14:1 and i'm sure it's at 14:1. lets put it this way... you build the engines the exact same way but on one you run high compression normally aspirated and on the other you run low compression with a turbo. the turbo engine will generally last longer because there is less constant strain on the internals.

 

Exactly. Not to mention possible accidents. $8000 in mods + $2500 k.b.b value == <$2500 from your insurance company when you total it racing the local riceboy.

 

Where are getting this info? 14:1 really? And what type of gas is this person going to run??

You really have no idea how an engine works do you?

What ever engine is driven easier/built better/or is maintained better is gonna last longer. Again idiotic thinking

 

14:1... he's using rocket fuel!!

 

I am talking about the Hekimian Nissan engine, you know? Hekimian makes racing engines. The engine is built for racing so they are generally going to run high octane gas. If you have ever looked into muscle car performance and seen the guys that run high horse power normally aspirated engines you'll see that they run very high compression. Hekimian is getting 100 hp per liter out of this 3 liter normally aspirated vg30e engine... they are going to have to have really high compression to do that.

 

Oh so I see now. So since people with RACING engines usually RACE with their RACING ENGINES, who in the hell is gonna NOT FRIGGEN' boost a comparable RACING ENGINE w/ a turbo??

So please explain the logic in turning DOWN the boost in RACE engine when you want to WIN a RACE with my RACING ENGINE?

And since RACING engines are rebuilt after xxxx races, who gives a crap about which type of motor is THEORICALLY gonna last longer?? Hmmmm "well I was friggen' dead LAST in the race but I bet my engine is gonna outlast the winner's engine!!!!" LOL!!!

 

who said you turn down the boost? there's this thing called turbo lag. you don't have boost until you are higher in the rpm range meaning you don't have as much constant strain on the engine as you do with the high compression engine. the reason why i brought this up about it being less reliable is because it sounds like people want to use this engine on the street.

 

Ah, when you RACE, you are beating the engine all the TIME. Since they want to stay in the upper ranges of rev range THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE LAG PORTION OF THE POWERBAND. KINDA HARD TO WIN RACES THAT WAY.

Again, IF this motor has 14:1 compression DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO RUN THE ENGINE EVERY WEEK IF YOU HAD TO BUY THAT MUCH RACE GAS OR OCTANE BOOSTER TO KEEP IT FROM DETONATING?

 

you get the turbo engine up into the racing rpms but on the way up you have the turbo lag, not much strain on the engine until you get into the boost. high compression engine when revving has constant strain in the whole rom range.

i know it would cost a lot to run from the high octane gas, that's why it wouldn't be smart to run on the street.

shouldn't this thread have gotten locked by now?

 

Oh yeah "on the way up" Ooooooookaayyyy. You do know that serious turbo race engines run ball bearing high effiency turbos right? What lag are you talking about. If there was enough lag, they would be losing races. If you drive easy, an high compression engine doesn't put any more strain than any other engine. Geez again, no sense, logic or knowledge.

Not to mention that Rally cars run anti-lag devices in their engines TO PREVENT LAG. Weerd

 

It's too fun putting the on you

 

who cares about detonating, we have a knock sensor!
newbie

 

i would hope they run anti-lag devices on rally cars, most of them are tiny 4 cylinder engines. even with the ball bearing high efficiency turbos there is still lag. if someone wants boost but no lag, get a supercharger. turbos still do better than s/c's though.

 

And just what does this have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING we are talking about?

 

you started it. you were talking about anti-lag devices on rally cars and high efficiency turbos

 

BUT BUT BUT, if these rally cars have anti-lag devices how come they aren't blowing up after two miles?????
Oh must be the lag

 

how much do you really know about rally cars? did you know that the FIA requires them to put on turbo restrictors which increases lag? the point of the anti-lag device is only for after they have started to moving. oh and while we are talking about reliabilty yes, anti lag devices can do a lot of harm. if you were to setup one of these anti-lag devices on a street car you would destroy the exhaust system within 30 to 60 miles.

 

And that's to save the engines?? hardly.

Did you know that putting sugar on fries is really icky?

 

went from reliability of high compression engines to turbo lag...where will this thread/convo lead us now?