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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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HeLp Me Make my 94 gxe auto faster

Hey sorry i posted stuff in the 1/4 mile times forum by accident. I have a 94 maxima gxe auto. I took out my stock air box and made an adapter and put on a k&n cone filter. I got 2 1/4 piping bent at an exhaust shop and got a tunable muffler. I want my car to be faster. Im only 18 and i know ALOT about muscle cars and am learning on imports. Everyone told me that putting money into my car was stupid and a waste, but it was stuck with it and i LOVE cars so of course i was gonna do stuff. I did a basic system and am happy with it. Im really interesting in gaining more hp and taking my car to Englishtown this summer to see wut my 1/4 time. I love drag racing and im tottally into muscle cars. I had thoughts of many upgrades but im not sure. SO i turn to you people at maxima.org to help me. I looked in your forums and you know what your talking about. I was thinking of advancing the timing, a chip, ignition, better exhaust or intake, save weight. many possible upgrades. I was also wondering about a 5 speed trans swap and wondered how much and how hard. Im not sure how much more money i wana spend because my car is old (109k miles), ugly and slow. I really should make this a sleeper but im not sure wut 2 do and how. Im saving for my next car prob. a 240sx stick and do a turbo engine swap or something. Im hoping someone can point me in some direction as wut to do or what not to do. Thanks i appreciate it.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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well if you know about muscle cars why dont you build a 500hp chevy 350 and match it with a zf6 6 speed from a camaro, firebird, vette and a ford 9in rearend with 35spline shafts and 4.56gears and youd have best of both worlds, sleeper maxima powered by pure muscle just get a big sawzall and welder and go to town. im dreaming up a 87 to 91 camry (my first car so alot of sentamental value) with a 383 twin turbo and the same trany and rearend i think that would be the ultamate sleeper id just have to keep it quiet but it will proboly never happen

now backinto reality a 5spd swap will be anywhere from 500 to 1000$ and will proboly yeild the bigest gain in 1/4 mile for the money paired with full intake and exahaust youd be pretty fastlow to mid 15s to bad you didnt start out with an se
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now backinto reality a 5spd swap will be anywhere from 500 to 1000$ and will proboly yeild the bigest gain in 1/4 mile for the money paired with full intake and exahaust youd be pretty fastlow to mid 15s to bad you didnt start out with an se
back to reality if it was that cheap many of us would've done it by now
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Well, converting to 5spd is probably the best upgrade you could invest in for a GXE. The difference between a 5spd VG maxima and an auto one is like night and day! I know because I just converted my '91 GXE to 5spd. I am still having some problems but, I think it is just the slave cylinder jamming up. Though, with the full SS exhaust and 5spd, my Maxima does something it never did before; it pulls like a b@stard! Basically, find a good junk yard to get all the parts, then get a new master/slave cylinder and new clutch kit. I spent $650 for the tranny, including all the parts for the conversion (shifter, pedals, etc). I also bought a new OEM clutch kit for about $110 off Ebay. Also, Van's (an autoparts place) had the clutch master cylinder for $25 and slave cylinder for $19. I highly recommend replacing both of those with the swap. I didn't and found out the hard way. Now I've had to go back and replace them. Also, I highly recommend replacing the shifter bushings, especially if you get the parts from a junk yard. Mine are really worn and the shifting isn't very precise. Overall, I spent under $1k (which was my target price) for the conversion and am very happy.

Also, a y-pipe is a good investment as well. WSP sells stainless steel y-pipes, hi-flow cats, b-pipes (cat->muffler piping), etc for cheap. I bought a y, b, cat and SS borla turbo muffler all for about $550.

Don't listen to that crap about it being a waste of money to upgrade Maximas. Even the VG maxima has a lot of potential. It's not any muscle car but, it is a "sporty" sedan (it's not any Bimmer either). Though, just think about all the people that waste money upgrading 80's and early 90's SOHC non-vtec Hondas (the slowest kind of Honda ) and turning an 18sec car into a 17sec car w/ $2k in rice mods. A 5spd VG has a lot more potential than that.

There is also the turbo route. The '84-'89 (Z31) 300zx turbo engine, called the Vg30et, can be swapped into 3rd gen Maximas. Stock they make 200hp (205hp for 88-89) and 224lb/ft torque. The swap is very involved and not exactly easy, so the easiest way would be to pay someone to do it, if you had the money. A stock Vg30et runs at 6psi (I think it was 6psi) and is not intercooled. Throw on a good intercooler, bov, intake, 3" downpipe, 3" exhaust, 370cc z32 (90's 300zx) injectors, z32 fuel pump, and a few other mods will give you a good amount of power at around 1bar (14.7psi). Around 300hp is easy at that boost level with the mentioned mods. The Vg30et really opens up your options for making power, but it can get expensive and shouldn't be attempted if you don't know what you're doing.

94maxNJ, you can email me at fred.brown@amd.com if you want some more help or had more specific questions. I could give you more detail about upgrades or the 5spd swap. It doesn't look like anyone else will respond to your post.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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back to reality if it was that cheap many of us would've done it by now
Yeah, and that's why I just did my 5spd swap for about $900. j/k Seriously, a 5spd swap is the best thing you could do to a vg auto. Mykizism did the swap to his '91 GXE and I think he said he ran a 15.8 w/ just a K&N panel filter! 15.8 is quite respectable for what the VG maxima is. Seeing how he pulled a 15.8, I wonder if I could do a mid to low 15 with my full SS exhaust and CAI now?
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hey guys thanx for all the help. Im seriously thinking about the tranny swap. I was wondering about timing advancing. If you could help me out with the trans swap. I don't know that much about swapping my trans. Im worried if its worth it or if i should try to find a maxima se stick. I would be starting off with stick and 30 more hp. and just switch everything over. this is prob. easier said than done.
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Well, converting to 5spd is probably the best upgrade you could invest in for a GXE. The difference between a 5spd VG maxima and an auto one is like night and day! I know because I just converted my '91 GXE to 5spd. I am still having some problems but, I think it is just the slave cylinder jamming up. Though, with the full SS exhaust and 5spd, my Maxima does something it never did before; it pulls like a b@stard! Basically, find a good junk yard to get all the parts, then get a new master/slave cylinder and new clutch kit. I spent $650 for the tranny, including all the parts for the conversion (shifter, pedals, etc). I also bought a new OEM clutch kit for about $110 off Ebay. Also, Van's (an autoparts place) had the clutch master cylinder for $25 and slave cylinder for $19. I highly recommend replacing both of those with the swap. I didn't and found out the hard way. Now I've had to go back and replace them. Also, I highly recommend replacing the shifter bushings, especially if you get the parts from a junk yard. Mine are really worn and the shifting isn't very precise. Overall, I spent under $1k (which was my target price) for the conversion and am very happy.

I have an 89 Max Auto SE and lately, within the last month or so, my tranny has been dying I think. I will be driving slow from like 15-25 mph and the transmission won't switch from like 2nd gear to like 3rd unless I really smash the pedal and then after reving real high in 2nd it will slam into 3rd gear. This happens occasionally but I check the ATF and it was fine. It was almost like when you're driving a manual and you don't shirt into 3rd gear when your rpm's are way high. I guess my tranny is dying so I was maybe thinking of doing a tranny swap to a manual 5spd since mine is dying anyway. Now shadow said he did it all under $1k and that's a lot cheaper then getting a new auto tranny in for like $2.5k. Now I could just find some place to do this for me right like I could get all the parts needed for it and they put it in you know.....I have no idea so please don't flame me. Now is this workable and feasable? I would search but ya'll know what's up with that.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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if you had all the parts you could proboly pay a shop like 500 to 700 to swap it in but i really dont know if thats a good price or not

and for the should i get a ve 5spd yes it will be much faster stock low 15's when modded mid 14's and they are not that expensive between 3500 and 5000 just hard to find took me 6 months of searching but i wouldnt have it any other way so you could sell you 94 for 2500 to 3500 and only need like another 1k so it makes sense that thats the best option
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Well, if you are able to search (only donating members can now) then try and find a "manual swap" or "manual conversion" thread from a little while ago. Kaleb (forget his screen name) posted about doing the swap and basically listed every single part you will need. It was very helpful info and I don't think I could have done it without that list. Thanks Kaleb. BTW, I think I copied that list to a text file, so I could email it to any of you guys if you are interested.

A manual swap is kind of a better idea if your auto tranny is dying. I wish I had done it in the first place because 2yrs ago I paid about $2.8k to have my auto tranny rebuilt! If you are going to buy the parts and pay a shop to do the swap, make sure you take it to a good shop. Also, budget about $2k if you are going to pay a shop, because it will probably cost between $500-$1k labor. The MOST important thing is finding a good junk yard to get the parts from! I got lucky and paid $650 for about an 80k mile tranny and 99% of the parts necessary for the conversion.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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Re: HeLp Me Make my 94 gxe auto faster

Sell it and get a 240sx. There are more coilovers available for the s13 or s14 than there are mod's for 3rd gens.
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Well with all the info i have now i think i decided swapping my trans is gonna be a huge ***** and not worth the money. Im already looking for a 90-94 maxima se stick. I will convert over all my stuff. clear corners, bulbs, system, intake, exhaust, etc. i already know alot about wut 2 do on my car and how alot of stuff works, so in a few months after graduation, im gonna sell my car and buy a se stick and convert everything over and be very happy . Thanx for all your help everyone. If anyone has suggestions on anything let me know. I was wondering 2 how hard it would be to run gauges, like air/fuel or vaccum or water temp, a tach any of that kinda stuff
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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now remember the maxs with the ve = extra 30hp motor are only in the 92 to 94 SE's so if you get one your intake exhause wont work and gauges arnt that hard especialy air fuel and tach although i dont know why youd need 2 tachs i would also get a egt gauge instead of one of the other 2 although alittle harder to install will save your motor
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Yea im looking for a 92-94 stick se right now. I figure for the $1000 more or less im gonna put into stick, i can put towards my maxima se stick. Im gaining the benefits or stick and 30 extra hp. I see alot in my town like 3 or 4 92-94 se's. I would wana do a new intake and exhaust anyways. Knowing what i know now, i would do cold air or short ram intake, y pipe, cat back exhaust with a good muffler, short throw shifter, rims, put my old system in and any other little things. hopefully i will get my new max in a few months(after i sell mine and find one). I gotta sell mine first. Are there any other mods i should know of like clutch upgrades, timing advacing, ignition or chips i should look into? Im still learning my maxima upgrades. I did alot of stupid money and time wasting stuff when i got mine, like messing with all the system stuff and stupid stickers, and bulbs and all that crap. I honestly feel stupid after doing all that. Now im all about performance because people highly underestamate maximas and i love showing up civics and all ricers at stop lights and at the drag strip.
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Well, if you are able to search (only donating members can now) then try and find a "manual swap" or "manual conversion" thread from a little while ago. Kaleb (forget his screen name) posted about doing the swap and basically listed every single part you will need. It was very helpful info and I don't think I could have done it without that list. Thanks Kaleb. BTW, I think I copied that list to a text file, so I could email it to any of you guys if you are interested.

A manual swap is kind of a better idea if your auto tranny is dying. I wish I had done it in the first place because 2yrs ago I paid about $2.8k to have my auto tranny rebuilt! If you are going to buy the parts and pay a shop to do the swap, make sure you take it to a good shop. Also, budget about $2k if you are going to pay a shop, because it will probably cost between $500-$1k labor. The MOST important thing is finding a good junk yard to get the parts from! I got lucky and paid $650 for about an 80k mile tranny and 99% of the parts necessary for the conversion.
Ok well I think I might try the manual tranny swap when my auto trany dies all the way and when I have the money figured out. Will someone list everything that I will need, how much each item is and anything else I need to know cuz my dad will be the one paying for it and I am gonna need the strait facts to let him in on it. Also the places and products with the cheapest prices so I can try to keep it around $1k as well. Thanks!
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Well, converting to 5spd is probably the best upgrade you could invest in for a GXE. The difference between a 5spd VG maxima and an auto one is like night and day! I know because I just converted my '91 GXE to 5spd. I am still having some problems but, I think it is just the slave cylinder jamming up. Though, with the full SS exhaust and 5spd, my Maxima does something it never did before; it pulls like a b@stard! Basically, find a good junk yard to get all the parts, then get a new master/slave cylinder and new clutch kit. I spent $650 for the tranny, including all the parts for the conversion (shifter, pedals, etc). I also bought a new OEM clutch kit for about $110 off Ebay. Also, Van's (an autoparts place) had the clutch master cylinder for $25 and slave cylinder for $19. I highly recommend replacing both of those with the swap. I didn't and found out the hard way. Now I've had to go back and replace them. Also, I highly recommend replacing the shifter bushings, especially if you get the parts from a junk yard. Mine are really worn and the shifting isn't very precise. Overall, I spent under $1k (which was my target price) for the conversion and am very happy.

Also, a y-pipe is a good investment as well. WSP sells stainless steel y-pipes, hi-flow cats, b-pipes (cat->muffler piping), etc for cheap. I bought a y, b, cat and SS borla turbo muffler all for about $550.

Don't listen to that crap about it being a waste of money to upgrade Maximas. Even the VG maxima has a lot of potential. It's not any muscle car but, it is a "sporty" sedan (it's not any Bimmer either). Though, just think about all the people that waste money upgrading 80's and early 90's SOHC non-vtec Hondas (the slowest kind of Honda ) and turning an 18sec car into a 17sec car w/ $2k in rice mods. A 5spd VG has a lot more potential than that.

There is also the turbo route. The '84-'89 (Z31) 300zx turbo engine, called the Vg30et, can be swapped into 3rd gen Maximas. Stock they make 200hp (205hp for 88-89) and 224lb/ft torque. The swap is very involved and not exactly easy, so the easiest way would be to pay someone to do it, if you had the money. A stock Vg30et runs at 6psi (I think it was 6psi) and is not intercooled. Throw on a good intercooler, bov, intake, 3" downpipe, 3" exhaust, 370cc z32 (90's 300zx) injectors, z32 fuel pump, and a few other mods will give you a good amount of power at around 1bar (14.7psi). Around 300hp is easy at that boost level with the mentioned mods. The Vg30et really opens up your options for making power, but it can get expensive and shouldn't be attempted if you don't know what you're doing.

94maxNJ, you can email me at fred.brown@amd.com if you want some more help or had more specific questions. I could give you more detail about upgrades or the 5spd swap. It doesn't look like anyone else will respond to your post.
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Shadow, when you releasing the Cliff Notes for that post
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This stuff is all courtesy of Kaleb.


Here's some crammed together info that I haven't finished sorting out. Yes, people have done 5spd conversions, yes I'm one of them. Don't ask me how to do it until you've removed your auto tranny.

-Kaleb

PARTS YOU WILL NEED:

Manual Transmission Assembly
- Speed Sensor
- Postion Switch

Shift Linkage [341A]
- Support Rod Bracket
-- Rod Mounting Nut and Washer (Stud is on Bracket)
-- Bracket Bolts (3) (For Attachment to Transmission)
- Shifter w/ Bracket, Mounting Studs (2 Small Plate Studs) and Nuts (4)
- Dust Cover for Shifter
- Rubber Seal for Shifter Hole
- Shifter Return Spring
- All Other Nuts, Misc Pieces in Assembly (see diagram 341A)

Transmission to Engine Mounting
- Transmission Gussets (2) That Mount Lower Part of Transmission to Engine ("L" Shaped Brackets on Front and Rear Side of Engine)
-- Bracket-to-Transmission Bolts 10mm x 25mm (4)
- Engine Plate (Thin Metal) for Manual Transmission
- Lower Engine Plate for Manual Transmission (1/2 Moon Shape)
-- Lower Engine Plate Bolts 8mm x 25mm (4)
- Bell Housing Bolts
-- 10mm x 65mm Bolt (1)
-- 10mm x 55mm Bolts (4)

Clutch Hydraulic and Operation System
- Clutch Master Cylinder
-- Master Cylinder Mounting Nuts
- Clutch Slave (Operating) Cylinder
- Clutch Slave Cylinder Hose
- All Hydraulic Clutch Hard Lines (Tubes) OR...
- (Recommended) Hydraulic Tubing w/ Fittings (56") from Autozone
- Clutch Pedal and Bracket Assembly
-- Clutch Position Switches (2)
-- Clutch Pedal and Bracket w/ Spring, etc.
-- Clevis Pin to Attach Pedal to Master Cylinder Push Rod w/ Pin Clip
-- Pedal Bracket Mounting Bolt



Engine Mounts:

11253P - AT, MT different, All MT same
11355 - Same for all VG, and VE MT. VE AT diff.
11335M - AT, MT different. All MT same
11320 - AT, MT different, All MT same

Shift Lock Diagram AT-150
Shift Control Components AT-172
Reverse lamp EL-42


Weight Info:

Automatic tranny:
transaxle w/ TC = 88800grams = 195.7lbs
flex plate = 1950 = 4.6lbs

Manual tranny:
transaxle = 40350 = 89lbs
clutch = 20lbs
flywheel = 7900 = 17.4lbs

STUFF YOU SHOULD BUY NEW:
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30542-03E10 COVER-DUST - WITHDRAWL LEVER
32859-03E01 BOOT - STRIKING ROD
38342-81X01 SEAL-OIL - DRIVE SHAFT
38342-81X00 SEAL-OIL - DRIVE SHAFT
34557-D2700 BUSHING - CONTROL ROD
31098-60Y05 HOSE-BREATHER
30534-03E00 SPRING - WITHDRAWL LEVER
30537-03E00 PIN-BALL WITHDRAWL LEVER
08171-0551A(4) BOLT - TRANSMISSION
08120-8251F(2) BOLT - TRANSMISSION
08171-0651A(1) BOLT - TRANSMISSION
46512-H0101 STOPPER - PEDAL
clutch master cylinder rebuild kit
clutch slave cylinder
clutch hose and gaskets
Old Mar 16, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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This stuff is all courtesy of Kaleb.


Here's some crammed together info that I haven't finished sorting out. Yes, people have done 5spd conversions, yes I'm one of them. Don't ask me how to do it until you've removed your auto tranny.

-Kaleb

PARTS YOU WILL NEED:

Manual Transmission Assembly
- Speed Sensor
- Postion Switch

Shift Linkage [341A]
- Support Rod Bracket
-- Rod Mounting Nut and Washer (Stud is on Bracket)
-- Bracket Bolts (3) (For Attachment to Transmission)
- Shifter w/ Bracket, Mounting Studs (2 Small Plate Studs) and Nuts (4)
- Dust Cover for Shifter
- Rubber Seal for Shifter Hole
- Shifter Return Spring
- All Other Nuts, Misc Pieces in Assembly (see diagram 341A)


Clutch Hydraulic and Operation System
- Clutch Master Cylinder
-- Master Cylinder Mounting Nuts
- Clutch Slave (Operating) Cylinder
- Clutch Slave Cylinder Hose
- All Hydraulic Clutch Hard Lines (Tubes) OR...
- (Recommended) Hydraulic Tubing w/ Fittings (56") from Autozone
- Clutch Pedal and Bracket Assembly
-- Clutch Position Switches (2)
-- Clutch Pedal and Bracket w/ Spring, etc.
-- Clevis Pin to Attach Pedal to Master Cylinder Push Rod w/ Pin Clip
-- Pedal Bracket Mounting Bolt


Manual tranny:
transaxle = 40350 = 89lbs
clutch = 20lbs
flywheel = 7900 = 17.4lbs

ok is this information for actually doing it yourself becuase I was just planing on paying a shop to put in but thank you for all the info.....that really helped out a lot . I am basically going to get the parts that I need and have the shop put everything in.
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Hey guys. I've been doing alot of searching for maxima's 92-94 se stick and didn't come up with much. I might go with a 240sx. I'm wondering before i start searching wut other mods for my auto maxima can i do, that are cheap and fairly easy. I was mostly thinking y-pipe and where is the best/cheapest place to get one. I have a 2 1/4 cat back and it sounds nice. i saw a y pipe for my car mandrel bent a while ago on ebay for like i think $200. The only reason im putting more money is my car is i will prob. be saving for a while for my new car but for now im dying to do something 2 my car. Let me kno wut ya'll think, Thanx
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Go with WSP for the y-pipe. Though, the wait can be long. A full exhaust and CAI is about the biggest gain you'll get, that isn't an involved or expensive project, for an auto Maxima. If you don't plan on keeping your Maxima, I wouldn't waste the money and instead save for a good 240sx. There is plenty you can do with 240's.
Old Apr 1, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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Hey guys,
no one has posted anything new so im going to.
I haven't had a ton of time lately but i've been looking around for a car. While i was doing this my trans started acting up. it would run fine until it warmed up and the trans would slip and it would feel like im in neutral, i would step on it until like 5 grand and then it would "catch" and the car would slowly start moving. over the past week i dunno how but it seems like its fine. Its probably from the way i drive the car. burnouts, dounts, reverse burnouts, and so on. the car drives ok now and the trans is better but im still in search of a new car, i've looked on ebay, autotrader and all local papers with nothing. no maxima's 92-94 se stick, and almost no 240sx stick. Im thinking of going the muscle car route. I have 5g's in the bank and im going to save over the summer and probably sell a few things if i can ever sell my car. well if anyone has an idea wut my trans problems would be let me know. i think it's the torque converter or something. i checked the trans fluid and it looked fine, wasn't low and there are no leaks.
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94MaxNJ, it sounds like your tranny is pretty much dead. Just keep looking man. Something will pop up. I'm not sure if you like them but, Z31's are pretty common and don't go for a whole lot of money.

It ****es me off but now that I just finished my swap, all of a sudden some vg and ve 5spds just popped up! I even found a 92se 5spd for $2.3k in great condition!
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How much would it cost to have the turbo route for a 300ZX turboed engine into the car?
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How much would it cost to have the turbo route for a 300ZX turboed engine into the car?
there is no definite cost....for a GOOD setup capable of over and around 350 have at least $4-5k laying around to start.
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You need $2000-3000 just to begin.

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How much would it cost to have the turbo route for a 300ZX turboed engine into the car?
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No one has posted on this thread in a while so i will. Im sad to say it but it has come time to part with my 94 gxe. i have had enough of my slow, ugly, auto car. I've been looking for a car for a LONG time and now and with insurance, gas mileage, speed and looks all in mind, i have decided to narrow my search down to 240sx, and either a 1.8t or a vr6 jetta or gti. i think i might have looked at every kind of car, from mustang to camaro to 240sx to civic to crx to 70 challenger, to maxima, to vw, to audi, and so on. Does anyone know anyone in NJ or around that area that is looking for a 94 maxima gxe. I have all the info, on it and have MANY recents for parts and everything. The trans problem i had was fixed by changing the trans fluid and everything else works fine. Anyone that wants to know more post or pm me.
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