MrGone

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MrGone

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MrGone

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here are some extra pictures, I'm just going to link them for everyone's sake.

Here is the Air Box finished, and installed.
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/shawn/36.jpg

Here are the two speedometers waiting to be installed
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/gauges/1.jpg

This is the VG 125mph speedo. Notice the metal "bridge" with the threaded hole near the "100k" silkscreen?
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/gauges/3.jpg

This is the VE 145mph speedo. Notice there is nothing near the 100k silkscreen
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/gauges/2.jpg

This picture is for you incase you need reference points for when they are flipped upside down.
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/gauges/4.jpg

This is the VE Gauge. The hole near the "R16" silkscreen is where the VG has threads. Note where the trace leads off of the left solder point. Check the front of the gauge again. it simply disapears. it affects nothing
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/gauges/6.jpg

Same as above, except this is the VG speedo.
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/gauges/7.jpg

Idiot light poker hand. Remember they are transparent, as the light needs to shine threw them, so you can see the warning.
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/gauges/13.jpg

Finished shot, with gauge clusters side by side.
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/gauges/14.jpg

My gauges dont look the same anymore.
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/gauges/17.jpg

Anton's gauges are looking alot better
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/gauges/22.jpg


We switched the front bezels because mine has carbon fiber and his does not. This required some modifications (grinding down some plastic) but we didnt take any pictures. The area around the VE gauges blinkers is almost shaped like a dog house, while the VG's are square boxes. also there area 3 small tabs here and there (millimeter or two) that needed to be leveled. Very easy to do once found which ones were contacting to early.

Also, plugging the resonator in the intake tubing made the most difference, then hacking the air box just topped it off.

Thats all for now.
MrGone

Cincy94Max

Did sorta the same intake mod to my car the other night. After cutting open the resonator box, I cut that tube extension off and bonded a flat aluminum plate over the hole. Not the best for flow, but much better than that whole box thing.

Pervis Anathema

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Thanks for the information. I put a VE 5spd cluster in my VG auto a few weeks ago. However, I wasn't totally happy b/c my odometer was off and the o/d light didn't work. I just finished mixing and matching. Perfect!

KLoWnPR109

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You could have just swapped your odometer onto his gauge cluster and saved yourself a whole lotta trouble

Pervis Anathema

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No. The VE gauge cluster didn't appear to support my o/d light. Furthermore, I wanted to use my tachometer. Finally, my trip odometer was broken. Therefore I used the trip odometer from the VE cluster and installed it with mine.

Kenny89SE

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Is it just me that can't stand cutting my stock parts up or what. I would never cut anything up to where it couldn't be put back to normal. Also, It just seems like you would be collecting more dust in your filter considering its not suckin air from right behind the headlight.

MrGone

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more dust = more air

Anton wanted to keep his stock Tach as well, along with the idiot lights for things he had, and not ones for things he didnt have.

Another thing guys,
the Stock 5th gen Air Filter is a direct fit for a stock 3rd gen air box. I would assume the 4th gen is the same way, but the filter Anton has in his car now is from my 5th gen. I put an InJen on it, and my stock filter was better than his (more surface area, better quality).

Also with the modifications to the intake tube, you cannot see it missing unless you know what your looking for, or if you have the tube out. The Air box holes are very hard to see as the battery makes it a hard angle to view.

MrGone

DA-MAX

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cliffnotes?? I'm lazy and the pic for the modified intake box doesn't work, I wann see.

MrGone

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Modified air box
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/shawn/35.jpg

cliffnotes? arent the pictures the cliffnotes?

MrGone

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DA-MAX, were you talking about the first link? I fixed that. Turns out I didnt add the "/" to the closing url tag.

MrGone

Cincy94Max

Pretty scary cutting up ABS plastic with a hacksaw, but it had to be done. Normally I would never cut anythign up that couldn't be put back to normal, but you cannot see my cutting job. I just cut the underside of the S shaped piece, bonded a piece of aluminum under there that you can't see, and took out the piping that goes to behind the headlight. This piping is so restrictive, that I believe getting rid of it is actually beneficial. About more dust on the filter, not in my engine bay Plus the filter is like $10 from NAPA, not exactly an expensive part. With this setup, I have essentially a upper intake piece to a CAI and a less restrictive filter setup all for the cost of a tube of JB Weld. Gains can be felt throughout the entire rev range.

bonzelite

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why didn't you just get a CAI? am i missing something? why cut this and cut that and all of this ****? i like the speedo. i may do that. but nothing else. i don't need the ABS and AIRBAG things. why did you want those lights? they are useless.

MrGone

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simple. Anton and I are students, poor students at minimum wage. This was free, all it took was time, and it was fun. 2 bud's hanging out Now he has a CAI for a few cents, the cost of a KW of electricity and a ounce of propane or so.

now, he had ABS, he wanted his idiot light, I had air bags, he didnt, he didnt want my idiot light.

jaguax

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You can use the 145 mph speedometer on a 125 mph car? How is that possible considering the numbers on the 145 speedo don't line up with the ones on the 125 speedo? Probably a dumb question

I also swapped out my whole cluster for a white gauged one(125 mph). I don't really care about the odometer, since I don't plan on selling the car... It's off by 11,800 miles, no biggie I just have to subtract to get actual mileage

Cincy94Max

Why spend over $100 for something I can make for $5? I'm a poor college boy and I don't really need a full CAI. The VG is not a racing engine and my max is no racecar. I was bored one night and wanted something to do. Instead of spending what little money I had, I used some sweat and made something similar for less. Guess that's a foreign concept to some people.

bonzelite

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got it. sorry. i overlooked that. the whole point of tuning is really to have fun. and i see you guys are very industrious and resourceful and you're having a good time. i like your carbon dash and gauges by the way. as i alluded to. i want to swap my speedo now. but will it really read the true speed in the VG car? if you already answered that, than pardon my oversight.

MrGone

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yes. you should be swaping the full speedometer, as trying to simply swap the gauge face will be more work.

the speedometer is held in the back of the cluster with 4 screws, these 4 screws also act provide the information neccessary to the speedometers operation.

Because you are swapping the entire speedometer, and both speedometers have a 60mph =1024rpm configureation, there will not be a problem. We tested it using my 98 Durango and had Talk About 2 way radios to make sure we were 100% accurate.

Although there were lots of easier routes, the way we did it is complete, matches his car completely, and provides a modification that works and is accurate. If we swapped in my tach, it would not be accurate for the car, as the redlines are off. it is not a big deal at all, just the way things were done. Even though I origonally was leaning to swapping my tach, I am now glad we didnt, I think its much cooler with his stocker, plus how many of you guys have done double takes at that cluster?

feel free to ask any other questions.

bonzelite

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that is t!ts. i'm gonna do it. off to the junk yard. to what extent must the dash be disassembled?

MrGone

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bonzelite

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a picture is worth a thousand words. yes. i see it.

jaguax

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It's actually a lot easier than it looks. I did half of it in the dark with a tiny flashlight.

Bill Brasky

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^^^ this much is true

I think it's a grand total of 16 screws (if I counted right...)

MrGone

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not likely

drivin2theMAX

where did you get the gauges i have been looking for them??

MrGone

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from my 1993 Maxima SE

MrGone

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Bump because I am bored and like looking at pictures.

chchmax

Wanna find me some white faced metric gauges that i can install? that way i can keep my odometer, and look like a real american VE..