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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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Not that I can think off right now.

Well to justify a swap, it couldn't have been done that long ago. The engine is from a 2000 and used engines couldn't have been available for cheap for at least 1-2 years.

We really need to see the underside of the car.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Um I guess it should really read "5th gen" instead of "4th gen" as the engine is from a 5th gen body style 2000 year plus.
good catch Jeff. I'm still interested in the cost, how well it drives and who did it. So someone go test drive it.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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Oh and grab the other pics that were hosted by Jim?

Originally Posted by internetautomar
ok I'll change it to 5th gen.
any other changes?
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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this just all seems too fishy to me. But if its true LET THE BIDDING BEGIN. Would be interesting to fix up.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SeaMAX
good catch Jeff. I'm still interested in the cost, how well it drives and who did it. So someone go test drive it.
Ok guys, time to test drive, I will go tommorw and mabye sneak a few pictures. There is a problem though, my car is in the shop!

Oh well, I will see if I can ride with Maxima_Mike

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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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a 3rd gen with only 30,000 miles and 220 hp
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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wow... makes me wonder since the VQ30 fits, what about the VQ35 since both engines were in the same body/chassis
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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I'm calling BS.

/me waves the bs flag...

Although the first set of pics Jeff got seem plausible, I don't like it. The heater core lines should be visible from that angle. I know that engine isn't all that much wider (at the top) than a VE.... and even then, you can see the heater core lines. I'm just not buying into it just yet. I'll have to take a look at internetautomar's gallery next...

edit: http://internetautomart.com/gallery/...d-gen/IMAG0031

Is anyone's Catalyst, AC, and oil/temp thermometer thingy in the same spots as this hood?

Mine aren't....

I'm trying to hook up the pics in Photoshop to see if there has been any work done to the file....
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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how can it be BS? its looks pretty damn legit to me... that is no photoshop. im pretty impressed though, but i wonder how much was spent because they did everything from engine, tranny, guage cluster, steering wheel, they put the flashers on the left of the steering wheel, and im assuming ecu and harness and all that was changed. it has a different coolant overflow container as well.. wow this is cool!!

now im thinking it may be time for VQ35 287 hp from the z and the 6 speed maxima tranny to go with it hehehe
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon90gxe
now im thinking it may be time for VQ35 287 hp from the z and the 6 speed maxima tranny to go with it hehehe

this is where I'm smacking my head....

it isn't a photoshop... no history on it... :/ *sigh* now all this is gunna do is get more people saying "OMG I'm doing a VQ swap" only to find out that it's only a dream...

<-- is a member of the "if you want a VQ Maxima, get one that came with one" club
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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Well, Cheocwa and Maxima_Mike are going to check it out tommorow. I guess we will have to wait until then to settle the legit-or-not issue.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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someone should run a carfax on the VIN for good measure.

very awesome, none the less.

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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Walka
someone should run a carfax on the VIN for good measure.

very awesome, none the less.

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Chances are the carfax won't show anything out of the ordinary up.....other than a salvage, rebuilt title...it looks more and more like a frankenstein dealie with the weird seats, hazard switch, steering, speedo, etc...
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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All you guys that are saying BS, he's got pics, and hes offering you to go look at it, I doubt he plans to say the hood doesn't work when you get there so he won't let you look at it...it's real, it's obvious, if you dont believe it go look at it yourself, stop calling BS
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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my only question is...why weren't these pics in the auction?? call me crazy, but isn't that the BIGGEST selling point?? and only $910, no reseve, no Buy It Now?? of course the pics are proof in the pudding, but its just wierd
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Oh and grab the other pics that were hosted by Jim?
I would if I could, they don't show up any more for me
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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You know motor swaps aren't that big of a deal if you think about it. People do motor swaps ALL the time, and most of the work is just time consuming, but not difficult. If you had a fifth gen and a 3rd gen sitting next to each other to swap the parts over it would be relatively easy. The main parts you'de have to fabricate are the motor mounts and CV shafts, and crossmember, all of which could be done by a shop. You don't even have to do alot of the stuff that this guy swapped over, like the gauges, steering wheel, brake booster, etc. The wiring would be time consuming but could be done fairly easily.

I just don't see why it is soooo unbelievable that this car exists. I don't see any BS involved at all in this.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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On paper = seems easy.
In reality = different story.

It could all go very smoothly but one little thing could hold up the whole project. Now you are $thousands in the hole for nothing.

Originally Posted by rosamax
You know motor swaps aren't that big of a deal if you think about it. People do motor swaps ALL the time, and most of the work is just time consuming, but not difficult. If you had a fifth gen and a 3rd gen sitting next to each other to swap the parts over it would be relatively easy. The main parts you'de have to fabricate are the motor mounts and CV shafts, and crossmember, all of which could be done by a shop. You don't even have to do alot of the stuff that this guy swapped over, like the gauges, steering wheel, brake booster, etc. The wiring would be time consuming but could be done fairly easily.

I just don't see why it is soooo unbelievable that this car exists. I don't see any BS involved at all in this.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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That engine bay looks like a 4th gen. Those strut towers are definately 4th gen. The radiator is 4th gen, fuse boxes, and some other things I am seeing 4th gen.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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just a thought... would a infiniti engine mount up with a maxima transmission?
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by therealgoon9
just a thought... would a infiniti engine mount up with a maxima transmission?
They are the same thing.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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i agree with you in that people do motor swaps all the time....however, what makes it "unbelievable" is that someone would take an otherwise perfectly good vq vehicle (hypothetical), a vg vehicle, sit them side by side and start moving stuff over....that's like trying to convert a bicycle to a full blown motorcycle when you could (after all is said and done) buy a motorcycle outright. It all boils down to $$$, time, and if you're a fanatic and crazy enough to do it.

Originally Posted by rosamax
You know motor swaps aren't that big of a deal if you think about it. People do motor swaps ALL the time, and most of the work is just time consuming, but not difficult. If you had a fifth gen and a 3rd gen sitting next to each other to swap the parts over it would be relatively easy. The main parts you'de have to fabricate are the motor mounts and CV shafts, and crossmember, all of which could be done by a shop. You don't even have to do alot of the stuff that this guy swapped over, like the gauges, steering wheel, brake booster, etc. The wiring would be time consuming but could be done fairly easily.

I just don't see why it is soooo unbelievable that this car exists. I don't see any BS involved at all in this.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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4 gen engine bay. Fuse boxes are in the same location. Also brake master cylinder is similar. Strut mounts look the same. AFAIK, 4-gen struts didn't fit?

I wish some of you would stop speculating and start helping.
I don't know how this guy is offering to have people actually see it if it's fake. And what happens if he sells it?? Bidder comes and picks up the car and what? Fake. "whammo" would happen!

I don't know, there's evidence both ways.
Fuse boxes etc.. would of course be there as they probably used the 5-gen wiring harness.

You can also see the tranny resistor out in the hood latch area. Odd place to have it.

Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by antonthegrey
it isn't a photoshop... no history on it... :/ *sigh*
except that I could make your car pink and put a VE in it and still make you see no history in photoshop. It is not that difficult and is not a good way to test the validity of a picture.

Personally, with the small differences (externally) between a VQ30DE/-K and VQ35DE, I would use the VQ35DE. I can understand if the DE-K was just laying around, but meh. IMHO the VQ30DE/-K is just wayy too mellow.

I'll look at the pics closer later. I have no interest to put a VQ in my max, so its not really a big deal.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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The firewall is 3rd gen, from the silver vehicle plaque. Some of the underhood bits are likely parts from 3rd and 4th or 5th gens. It does sport the 4th gen front wheel gap. Can't wait for someone to test drive it, or get some under the car photos. I am suprised that they didn't use a 95 with a bad motor/tranny to swap the 2000+ engine/tranny into...
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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i can't beleive my eyes that a VQ30DE-K would fit in a 3rd gen .. that battery looks like it was installed at an angle tho

what is up w/ the diff. rims on that thing? If I were him I'd put the 4th gen or 5th gen 5-spokes on all 4 corners of the car ... heck why not throw the 5th gen 17"s on there

that 5th gen dash is a bit off, how is he gonna see the bottom row of warning lights? other than that it brought new life to the interior

other than that, this person did something totally bold and should be applauded for his efforts
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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that is a very, very, very interesting setup. hmm...
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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also Brian, ammend your page....


The engine is from a 2000-2001 I35 (assuming because of the engine cover). The engine is rated at 222hp from the factory. The 2001 AE editions were rated at 227hp, however that power increase has not been picked up on the dyno.

If you guys need any more shots, from a DE-K let me know and I'll go snap some from our 5th gen.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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How do you know he didn't just put the cover on? And since it doesn't really alter the technical portions of the swap, why bother?
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximamixaM
I am suprised that they didn't use a 95 with a bad motor/tranny to swap the 2000+ engine/tranny into...
simple, to alot of people, 3rd gens look alot better than other gens. He could be planning on painting it or something (which would be logical, so then he doesn't screw up the new paint working on swaps and stuff). Also maybe they dont want a beam or just want to be creative and do something that hasnt been done before
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Any idea on how to get passed the drive by wire thing on the 3.5VQs?

Originally Posted by MrGone
Personally, with the small differences (externally) between a VQ30DE/-K and VQ35DE, I would use the VQ35DE. I can understand if the DE-K was just laying around, but meh. IMHO the VQ30DE/-K is just wayy too mellow.

I'll look at the pics closer later. I have no interest to put a VQ in my max, so its not really a big deal.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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It appears he also used the 5th gen steering rack and shaft/etc

Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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whoever goes to look at it, be sure to bring a digicam. Turn the flash on and be sure to take pics of the motor mounts and tranny. Take as many pics as you can without him freaking out and tell him you might do the same thing. Be calm and not "whoah! I can't believe it, blah blah blah."

This looks fairly legit. I really think the guy just doesn't know what he has. He probably thinks it's like swapping an H22A into a 90 Accord or something. If no one tells him about .org (especially this thread) and no one tells him how intriguing his car is, it probably will be had for cheap by an .org member.

Too bad we weren't more centralized and organized, or we could all pitch in like $25-$50 and buy it for R & D.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Any idea on how to get passed the drive by wire thing on the 3.5VQs?
I'll ask SR20DEN more about it (pics and stuff). Maybe just need to install a 5th gen accelerator assembly.

Honestly with this, it looks like he used as much 5th gen stuff as possiable.
Actually I'm kind of interested in that steering rack. Driving the progressive rack is pretty nice
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Umm how does one figure out they used the 5-gen steering rack stuff? Looks like they used the 5-gen power steering pump items. But the resovoir is 3-gen.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
How do you know he didn't just put the cover on?
true, the steering wheel does have a Nissan hamburger on it. I bet its a 2000, as I believe alot of the 2001 have the same wheel as the 2002-2003's.

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And since it doesn't really alter the technical portions of the swap, why bother?
why bother??? hunh? why bother putting the engine cover on?
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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I was looking at the pics again and whoever did this must have had access to a junkyard. The engine in from an infiniti (at least the cover is) and the steering wheel is out of a 5th Gen Nissan. Infiniti steering wheels have their logo on it.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Umm how does one figure out they used the 5-gen steering rack stuff?
http://i8.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/e8/90/03_3.JPG

see the cut out. There could possiably be interference between the 3rd gen rack or something, or he just wanted as much 5th gen stuff on the car as possiable.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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I'm figuring maybe because if they used the 5-gen wiring harness, they might have had to use a 5-gen steering wheel(correct airbag electronics). But I thought the airbag harness was seperate. I think in the 3-gen it is.

Originally Posted by Red92MaxSE
I was looking at the pics again and whoever did this must have had access to a junkyard. The engine in from an infiniti (at least the cover is) and the steering wheel is out of a 5th Gen Nissan. Infiniti steering wheels have their logo on it.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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i'm assuming its got the typical 4th gen front wheel gap because its using 4th gen suspension. look at the strut towers, they're definitely 4th gen mounts. i think only .org members would even dream to frankenstein 3rd and 4th gen suspension, so that leads me to believe they used 4th gen springs/struts/mounts.
the enginebay is definitely 3rd gen by the looks of it.

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