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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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Can not remove the drive shaft, HELP!!!

Hi, guys.
I have a 93 Max, the right CV-Boot was broken, and i have changed the left one 1 year ago using split type boot, so i decided to have both replaced before winter.
On the right side, I have removed the big 36mm nut,seprated the lower ball joint and tie-rod ball joint and the drive shaft was out of the knuckle. When I try to take the axle out, I need to remove three 12mm bolts which connect the bracket and the support bearing retainer(the manual i have simply says remove shaft from transaxle, and the pic beside shows using a big screw driver to pry the axle out from the support bearing retainer), correct me if it not necessary to seprate the support bearing retainer and the bracket. I tried about 2 hours but can not take the shaft out, actually the bracket and the support bearing retainer did not seprate
Are there any other bolts i need to remove before i can take the shaft out? Anybody that have done that before, where did you put some tools to pry the axle out?
I know it is a long writing, bear with me pls.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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you need to remove the three (12mm?) bolts that hold the axle onto the support bearing, but you dont need to remove that whole bracket
Once you do that, try to break the axle loose from the bearing. You can hammer on one of the brackets where the 3 bolts were. You want it to come free from the bearing and spin since it's often rusted together. Then try to pry it out of the tranny.

good luck
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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I am not intended to remove the bracket, and i have tried to hammer the retainer(maybe not hard enough), doesn't work. Form my view, there shoud be at lease a gap or sth between the two brackets, but it looks like been welded together . OK, if that is all i need to do, i will accumulate some strength and try again tomorrow.
Originally Posted by «§»Craig B«§»
you need to remove the three (12mm?) bolts that hold the axle onto the support bearing, but you dont need to remove that whole bracket
Once you do that, try to break the axle loose from the bearing. You can hammer on one of the brackets where the 3 bolts were. You want it to come free from the bearing and spin since it's often rusted together. Then try to pry it out of the tranny.

good luck
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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did that last week. Just keep on hammering and it should brake loose. Have somebody pull while you hammer....
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by zhusst
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I am not intended to remove the bracket, and i have tried to hammer the retainer(maybe not hard enough), doesn't work. Form my view, there shoud be at lease a gap or sth between the two brackets, but it looks like been welded together . OK, if that is all i need to do, i will accumulate some strength and try again tomorrow.
yeah, it does fit together very close and it's hard to tell where they separate. Spray some liquid wrench on there and that'll help separate it and also help you clean it up a little and see where they split.

good luck
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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Try hitting it in this spot until it start to turn. That shoud help break it loose.
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 04:15 AM
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Thanks alpicone, the pic helps a lot!!
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 05:37 AM
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BTW, i just noticed that there is only one circular clip that holds the cv joint with drive shaft. Is it possible to seprate the joint assembly form shaft without take the whole axle out?
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by zhusst
BTW, i just noticed that there is only one circular clip that holds the cv joint with drive shaft. Is it possible to seprate the joint assembly form shaft without take the whole axle out?
yes, but you really arent going to want to do that. It happened to Jeff and I on his car and you have to take it all apart again, trying to put it back on is a PITA because it swivels around and is hard to get it to line up.


Just make sure you remove the 3 12mm bolts, tap the part that alpicone showed. spinning that will allow you to tap it with a hammer, although IMHO its easier just to give it a good tug at the end of the axle (between the CV's).
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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Its a real b!tch to take out the first time that you seperate them. My suggestion is that you put some anti-seize around the bearing before you put it back in just in case you need to do the shaft again it shouldn't be so hard to seperate.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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Well i am done.
I can't get the retainer spin with both wd-40 and a hammer (i have a 2t floor jack from pepboys, which is obviously too small for maxima. the space under the car is killing me).
Using a slide hammer from autozone, i was pushing the shaft toward the inner joint with my hand while pulling the outer joint with the slide hammer, try not to damage the clips and inner cv boot. It came out easily with 3 or 4 hits, but just as MrGone said, puttingit back is dame difficult. (If i have seen the post, I possibly will not have done it this way.) I put a lot of grease on where the clip is (try to center the clip) and of course a hammer, tried more than 10 times, and finally put it back. Wish i am not damaging anything in there.
Also, i changed ATF, got some fresh blood for my MAX
Thanks all you guy's help
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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When you remove the cv joint off the shaft, it will be harder to put back on as you've twisted the circlip outta shape on removal. The manual recommends you replace the circlip & from experience, a 50c part saves 20 minutes of frustration - i.e. it def makes assembly much easier!
If the cv joint is back on the shaft & the circlip has locked it into place, you won't have screwed anything up.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nismobaron
When you remove the cv joint off the shaft, it will be harder to put back on as you've twisted the circlip outta shape on removal. The manual recommends you replace the circlip & from experience, a 50c part saves 20 minutes of frustration - i.e. it def makes assembly much easier!
If the cv joint is back on the shaft & the circlip has locked it into place, you won't have screwed anything up.
I did replace the clip which included in the kit, the new one is exactly the same shape as the old one.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by zhusst
I did replace the clip which included in the kit, the new one is exactly the same shape as the old one.
Oh, our kits don't come with replacement clips! Most times it's more luck how the joint will just slide on after spending forever trying!!!

I used to have an old Mitsi Colt & could visegrip the axle to the lower suspension arm which made the job real easy...
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